Why tilde (~) doesn't expand when used with CLI argument starting with dash?
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I lost a couple of hours trying to run VNC server (x0vncserver) and the client refused to connect with weird message that
No password configured for VNC Auth
The server also prints this error
SVncAuth: opening password file '~/.vnc/passwd' failed
Ok, I wasted a lot of time until I realized the tilde was neither expanded by the shell, nor by x0vncserver.
Then I ran these tests
$ echo --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
--PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
But
$ echo PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
PasswordFile=/home/tichomir/.vnc/passwd
Why is that? Why the shell refuses to expand tilde if the argument begins with a dash? I thought tilde will always expand as long as it is not quoted, but apparently there is another rule that comes into play?
bash shell tilde
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I lost a couple of hours trying to run VNC server (x0vncserver) and the client refused to connect with weird message that
No password configured for VNC Auth
The server also prints this error
SVncAuth: opening password file '~/.vnc/passwd' failed
Ok, I wasted a lot of time until I realized the tilde was neither expanded by the shell, nor by x0vncserver.
Then I ran these tests
$ echo --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
--PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
But
$ echo PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
PasswordFile=/home/tichomir/.vnc/passwd
Why is that? Why the shell refuses to expand tilde if the argument begins with a dash? I thought tilde will always expand as long as it is not quoted, but apparently there is another rule that comes into play?
bash shell tilde
Related: Expansion of tilde in zsh
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:25
See also: Does ~ always equal $HOME
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:20
add a comment |
I lost a couple of hours trying to run VNC server (x0vncserver) and the client refused to connect with weird message that
No password configured for VNC Auth
The server also prints this error
SVncAuth: opening password file '~/.vnc/passwd' failed
Ok, I wasted a lot of time until I realized the tilde was neither expanded by the shell, nor by x0vncserver.
Then I ran these tests
$ echo --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
--PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
But
$ echo PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
PasswordFile=/home/tichomir/.vnc/passwd
Why is that? Why the shell refuses to expand tilde if the argument begins with a dash? I thought tilde will always expand as long as it is not quoted, but apparently there is another rule that comes into play?
bash shell tilde
I lost a couple of hours trying to run VNC server (x0vncserver) and the client refused to connect with weird message that
No password configured for VNC Auth
The server also prints this error
SVncAuth: opening password file '~/.vnc/passwd' failed
Ok, I wasted a lot of time until I realized the tilde was neither expanded by the shell, nor by x0vncserver.
Then I ran these tests
$ echo --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
--PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
But
$ echo PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
PasswordFile=/home/tichomir/.vnc/passwd
Why is that? Why the shell refuses to expand tilde if the argument begins with a dash? I thought tilde will always expand as long as it is not quoted, but apparently there is another rule that comes into play?
bash shell tilde
bash shell tilde
edited Feb 3 at 10:06
Kusalananda
132k17252414
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asked Feb 3 at 10:04
Tihomir MitkovTihomir Mitkov
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1936
Related: Expansion of tilde in zsh
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:25
See also: Does ~ always equal $HOME
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:20
add a comment |
Related: Expansion of tilde in zsh
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:25
See also: Does ~ always equal $HOME
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:20
Related: Expansion of tilde in zsh
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:25
Related: Expansion of tilde in zsh
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:25
See also: Does ~ always equal $HOME
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:20
See also: Does ~ always equal $HOME
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:20
add a comment |
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This is a peculiarity of the bash
shell described in its manual:
Bash also performs tilde expansion on words satisfying the conditions of variable assignments (as described above under PARAMETERS) when they appear as arguments to simple commands. Bash does not do
this, except for the declaration commands listed above, when in posix mode.
This means that bash
will expand the tilde in your PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
string, since it's an argument to echo
that looks like a variable assignment.
The string --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
does not look like a variable assignment since the string --PasswordFile
is not a valid variable name.
Note that bash
does not do this when running in POSIX mode, and that other shells, like zsh
, ksh
or yash
do not do this by default (zsh
has a magicequalsubst
option for tilde expansion to be performed after unquoted equal signs (=
) though).
If you want to ensure that the home directory path of the current user is properly expanded as part of an argument to a command, use the $HOME
value instead of the tilde:
echo --PasswordFile="$HOME/.vnc/passwd"
The "declaration commands listed above" referred to in the manual are the built in commands alias
, declare
, typeset
, export
, readonly
, and local
.
1
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
Though note:bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs~
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
2
Note that the~
being expanded inalias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Whyyash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.
– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
1
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case ofx0vncserver
,x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need--PasswordFile=file
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
|
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This is a peculiarity of the bash
shell described in its manual:
Bash also performs tilde expansion on words satisfying the conditions of variable assignments (as described above under PARAMETERS) when they appear as arguments to simple commands. Bash does not do
this, except for the declaration commands listed above, when in posix mode.
This means that bash
will expand the tilde in your PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
string, since it's an argument to echo
that looks like a variable assignment.
The string --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
does not look like a variable assignment since the string --PasswordFile
is not a valid variable name.
Note that bash
does not do this when running in POSIX mode, and that other shells, like zsh
, ksh
or yash
do not do this by default (zsh
has a magicequalsubst
option for tilde expansion to be performed after unquoted equal signs (=
) though).
If you want to ensure that the home directory path of the current user is properly expanded as part of an argument to a command, use the $HOME
value instead of the tilde:
echo --PasswordFile="$HOME/.vnc/passwd"
The "declaration commands listed above" referred to in the manual are the built in commands alias
, declare
, typeset
, export
, readonly
, and local
.
1
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
Though note:bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs~
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
2
Note that the~
being expanded inalias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Whyyash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.
– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
1
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case ofx0vncserver
,x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need--PasswordFile=file
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
|
show 1 more comment
This is a peculiarity of the bash
shell described in its manual:
Bash also performs tilde expansion on words satisfying the conditions of variable assignments (as described above under PARAMETERS) when they appear as arguments to simple commands. Bash does not do
this, except for the declaration commands listed above, when in posix mode.
This means that bash
will expand the tilde in your PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
string, since it's an argument to echo
that looks like a variable assignment.
The string --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
does not look like a variable assignment since the string --PasswordFile
is not a valid variable name.
Note that bash
does not do this when running in POSIX mode, and that other shells, like zsh
, ksh
or yash
do not do this by default (zsh
has a magicequalsubst
option for tilde expansion to be performed after unquoted equal signs (=
) though).
If you want to ensure that the home directory path of the current user is properly expanded as part of an argument to a command, use the $HOME
value instead of the tilde:
echo --PasswordFile="$HOME/.vnc/passwd"
The "declaration commands listed above" referred to in the manual are the built in commands alias
, declare
, typeset
, export
, readonly
, and local
.
1
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
Though note:bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs~
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
2
Note that the~
being expanded inalias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Whyyash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.
– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
1
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case ofx0vncserver
,x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need--PasswordFile=file
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
|
show 1 more comment
This is a peculiarity of the bash
shell described in its manual:
Bash also performs tilde expansion on words satisfying the conditions of variable assignments (as described above under PARAMETERS) when they appear as arguments to simple commands. Bash does not do
this, except for the declaration commands listed above, when in posix mode.
This means that bash
will expand the tilde in your PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
string, since it's an argument to echo
that looks like a variable assignment.
The string --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
does not look like a variable assignment since the string --PasswordFile
is not a valid variable name.
Note that bash
does not do this when running in POSIX mode, and that other shells, like zsh
, ksh
or yash
do not do this by default (zsh
has a magicequalsubst
option for tilde expansion to be performed after unquoted equal signs (=
) though).
If you want to ensure that the home directory path of the current user is properly expanded as part of an argument to a command, use the $HOME
value instead of the tilde:
echo --PasswordFile="$HOME/.vnc/passwd"
The "declaration commands listed above" referred to in the manual are the built in commands alias
, declare
, typeset
, export
, readonly
, and local
.
This is a peculiarity of the bash
shell described in its manual:
Bash also performs tilde expansion on words satisfying the conditions of variable assignments (as described above under PARAMETERS) when they appear as arguments to simple commands. Bash does not do
this, except for the declaration commands listed above, when in posix mode.
This means that bash
will expand the tilde in your PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
string, since it's an argument to echo
that looks like a variable assignment.
The string --PasswordFile=~/.vnc/passwd
does not look like a variable assignment since the string --PasswordFile
is not a valid variable name.
Note that bash
does not do this when running in POSIX mode, and that other shells, like zsh
, ksh
or yash
do not do this by default (zsh
has a magicequalsubst
option for tilde expansion to be performed after unquoted equal signs (=
) though).
If you want to ensure that the home directory path of the current user is properly expanded as part of an argument to a command, use the $HOME
value instead of the tilde:
echo --PasswordFile="$HOME/.vnc/passwd"
The "declaration commands listed above" referred to in the manual are the built in commands alias
, declare
, typeset
, export
, readonly
, and local
.
edited Feb 3 at 17:33
answered Feb 3 at 10:17
KusalanandaKusalananda
132k17252414
132k17252414
1
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
Though note:bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs~
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
2
Note that the~
being expanded inalias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Whyyash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.
– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
1
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case ofx0vncserver
,x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need--PasswordFile=file
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
|
show 1 more comment
1
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
Though note:bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs~
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
2
Note that the~
being expanded inalias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Whyyash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.
– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
1
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case ofx0vncserver
,x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need--PasswordFile=file
.
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
1
1
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
+1 | I would not think of that.
– Vlastimil
Feb 3 at 10:23
Though note:
bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs ~
.– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
Though note:
bash --posix -c '"export" a=~; printf "%sn" "$a"'
outputs ~
.– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:29
2
2
Note that the
~
being expanded in alias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Why yash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
Note that the
~
being expanded in alias a=~
would be a POSIX conformance bug (and is not useful). But that's how ksh88 did it (that changed in ksh93) and is probably why bash, zsh and pdksh do it as well. Why yash
which was written against the POSIX spec doesn't do it.– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:38
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using
=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
This is the right answer, but the right approach would have been to just supply the option argument as a separate argument, rather than merged with the option using
=
into one argument. Then the tilde expansion is at the beginning of a word and the question is moot.– JdeBP
Feb 3 at 12:35
1
1
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case of
x0vncserver
, x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need --PasswordFile=file
.– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
@JdeBP, as it happens, in the case of
x0vncserver
, x0vncserver --PasswordFile file
doesn't work, you need --PasswordFile=file
.– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:18
|
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Related: Expansion of tilde in zsh
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 10:25
See also: Does ~ always equal $HOME
– Stéphane Chazelas
Feb 3 at 17:20