What are the similarities and differences in pawn Structure from the Scandinavian and the Caro-Kann?

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It seems both openings have the Capablanca Pawn Structure with c6 and e6



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I'm curious about where the similarities stop and what are the optimal pawn breaks.










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    It seems both openings have the Capablanca Pawn Structure with c6 and e6



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    I'm curious about where the similarities stop and what are the optimal pawn breaks.










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      It seems both openings have the Capablanca Pawn Structure with c6 and e6



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      I'm curious about where the similarities stop and what are the optimal pawn breaks.










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      It seems both openings have the Capablanca Pawn Structure with c6 and e6



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      I'm curious about where the similarities stop and what are the optimal pawn breaks.







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          The pawn structure in the Caro-Kann Classical Variation and the Scandinavian can be the exact same. The optimal pawn breaks are either pushing the c6 pawn to c5 or pushing the e6 pawn to e5. The differences are in the positions of the pieces, which is why far more people play the Caro-Kann than the Scandinavian. In the Scandinavian, black spends many tempi moving their Queen around, giving white time clamp down on these possible pawn breaks.






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            It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

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          The pawn structures are the same, which means the typical pawn breaks are also the same. Black often tries for ...c5 and sometimes ...e5, while White always has a thematic d5 break in mind.



          However, in the Scandinavian Black must waste a few tempi moving his queen. This means that White's plan more often involves early attacks as opposed to the Caro-kann.






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            The pawn structure in the Caro-Kann Classical Variation and the Scandinavian can be the exact same. The optimal pawn breaks are either pushing the c6 pawn to c5 or pushing the e6 pawn to e5. The differences are in the positions of the pieces, which is why far more people play the Caro-Kann than the Scandinavian. In the Scandinavian, black spends many tempi moving their Queen around, giving white time clamp down on these possible pawn breaks.






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              It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

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            The pawn structure in the Caro-Kann Classical Variation and the Scandinavian can be the exact same. The optimal pawn breaks are either pushing the c6 pawn to c5 or pushing the e6 pawn to e5. The differences are in the positions of the pieces, which is why far more people play the Caro-Kann than the Scandinavian. In the Scandinavian, black spends many tempi moving their Queen around, giving white time clamp down on these possible pawn breaks.






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              It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

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              Feb 4 at 17:58













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            The pawn structure in the Caro-Kann Classical Variation and the Scandinavian can be the exact same. The optimal pawn breaks are either pushing the c6 pawn to c5 or pushing the e6 pawn to e5. The differences are in the positions of the pieces, which is why far more people play the Caro-Kann than the Scandinavian. In the Scandinavian, black spends many tempi moving their Queen around, giving white time clamp down on these possible pawn breaks.






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            The pawn structure in the Caro-Kann Classical Variation and the Scandinavian can be the exact same. The optimal pawn breaks are either pushing the c6 pawn to c5 or pushing the e6 pawn to e5. The differences are in the positions of the pieces, which is why far more people play the Caro-Kann than the Scandinavian. In the Scandinavian, black spends many tempi moving their Queen around, giving white time clamp down on these possible pawn breaks.







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              It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

              – ATLPoly
              Feb 4 at 17:58












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              It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

              – ATLPoly
              Feb 4 at 17:58







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            It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

            – ATLPoly
            Feb 4 at 17:58





            It should be noted though that there are other reasons why some players may prefer to play the Scandinavian rather than the Caro-Kann. Most notably, many lines of the Advance Variation (e.g. the Bayonet Attack: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4) lead to vastly different pawn structures, with White enjoying fairly good results. Of course, White also enjoys good results in the Scandinavian and has ways to stir up trouble, but black at least avoids the possibility of the generally unpleasant Caro-Kann Advance lines.

            – ATLPoly
            Feb 4 at 17:58











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            The pawn structures are the same, which means the typical pawn breaks are also the same. Black often tries for ...c5 and sometimes ...e5, while White always has a thematic d5 break in mind.



            However, in the Scandinavian Black must waste a few tempi moving his queen. This means that White's plan more often involves early attacks as opposed to the Caro-kann.






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              The pawn structures are the same, which means the typical pawn breaks are also the same. Black often tries for ...c5 and sometimes ...e5, while White always has a thematic d5 break in mind.



              However, in the Scandinavian Black must waste a few tempi moving his queen. This means that White's plan more often involves early attacks as opposed to the Caro-kann.






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                The pawn structures are the same, which means the typical pawn breaks are also the same. Black often tries for ...c5 and sometimes ...e5, while White always has a thematic d5 break in mind.



                However, in the Scandinavian Black must waste a few tempi moving his queen. This means that White's plan more often involves early attacks as opposed to the Caro-kann.






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                The pawn structures are the same, which means the typical pawn breaks are also the same. Black often tries for ...c5 and sometimes ...e5, while White always has a thematic d5 break in mind.



                However, in the Scandinavian Black must waste a few tempi moving his queen. This means that White's plan more often involves early attacks as opposed to the Caro-kann.







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