Does the Brexit deal being voted down imply that Brexit is not going to happen?
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Just looking at the TV and I am seeing that the British Parliament rejected the Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple sources show this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when the UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
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Just looking at the TV and I am seeing that the British Parliament rejected the Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple sources show this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when the UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
united-kingdom brexit parliament
edited Jan 16 at 18:55
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asked Jan 15 at 19:50
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
Jan 15 at 19:55
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@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
Jan 15 at 19:58
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@DrunkCynic The core of the question is whether the Parliament vote concerns the terms of the deal or the Brexit itself, which makes it pretty narrow and definitely answerable.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jan 16 at 8:50
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@MartijnHeemels - yes, I have edited it. Thanks.
– Alexei
Jan 16 at 10:01
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Let us hope and pray that my definitely-not-a-slave friends across the pond start to understand how much they don't want to undo the progress of World War 2.
– Spencer Williams
Jan 16 at 16:19
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Just looking at the TV and I am seeing that the British Parliament rejected the Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple sources show this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when the UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
united-kingdom brexit parliament
edited Jan 16 at 18:55
Community♦
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asked Jan 15 at 19:50
AlexeiAlexei
16.2k2092170
Just looking at the TV and I am seeing that the British Parliament rejected the Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple sources show this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when the UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
united-kingdom brexit parliament
united-kingdom brexit parliament
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
Jan 15 at 19:55
13
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
Jan 15 at 19:58
1
@DrunkCynic The core of the question is whether the Parliament vote concerns the terms of the deal or the Brexit itself, which makes it pretty narrow and definitely answerable.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jan 16 at 8:50
1
@MartijnHeemels - yes, I have edited it. Thanks.
– Alexei
Jan 16 at 10:01
1
Let us hope and pray that my definitely-not-a-slave friends across the pond start to understand how much they don't want to undo the progress of World War 2.
– Spencer Williams
Jan 16 at 16:19
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show 8 more comments
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
Jan 15 at 19:55
13
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
Jan 15 at 19:58
1
@DrunkCynic The core of the question is whether the Parliament vote concerns the terms of the deal or the Brexit itself, which makes it pretty narrow and definitely answerable.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jan 16 at 8:50
1
@MartijnHeemels - yes, I have edited it. Thanks.
– Alexei
Jan 16 at 10:01
1
Let us hope and pray that my definitely-not-a-slave friends across the pond start to understand how much they don't want to undo the progress of World War 2.
– Spencer Williams
Jan 16 at 16:19
2
2
I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
Jan 15 at 19:55
I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
Jan 15 at 19:55
13
13
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
Jan 15 at 19:58
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
Jan 15 at 19:58
1
1
@DrunkCynic The core of the question is whether the Parliament vote concerns the terms of the deal or the Brexit itself, which makes it pretty narrow and definitely answerable.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jan 16 at 8:50
@DrunkCynic The core of the question is whether the Parliament vote concerns the terms of the deal or the Brexit itself, which makes it pretty narrow and definitely answerable.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jan 16 at 8:50
1
1
@MartijnHeemels - yes, I have edited it. Thanks.
– Alexei
Jan 16 at 10:01
@MartijnHeemels - yes, I have edited it. Thanks.
– Alexei
Jan 16 at 10:01
1
1
Let us hope and pray that my definitely-not-a-slave friends across the pond start to understand how much they don't want to undo the progress of World War 2.
– Spencer Williams
Jan 16 at 16:19
Let us hope and pray that my definitely-not-a-slave friends across the pond start to understand how much they don't want to undo the progress of World War 2.
– Spencer Williams
Jan 16 at 16:19
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Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally be in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
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EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
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I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
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No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
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It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
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Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
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Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
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@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
1
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
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Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrow's vote of no confidence or the vote fails: Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker, the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. With that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of March. Note this is currently the default position.
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw Article 50 and the UK will remain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible, etc.)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above, there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal, or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
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Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally be in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
edited Jan 17 at 11:26
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answered Jan 15 at 20:08
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EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
10
I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
add a comment |
Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally be in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
edited Jan 17 at 11:26
Community♦
1
answered Jan 15 at 20:08
ouflakouflak
773410
EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
10
I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
add a comment |
Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally be in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
edited Jan 17 at 11:26
Community♦
1
answered Jan 15 at 20:08
ouflakouflak
773410
Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally be in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
edited Jan 17 at 11:26
Community♦
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answered Jan 15 at 20:08
ouflakouflak
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edited Jan 17 at 11:26
Community♦
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edited Jan 17 at 11:26
Community♦
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edited Jan 17 at 11:26
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answered Jan 15 at 20:08
ouflakouflak
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answered Jan 15 at 20:08
ouflakouflak
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answered Jan 15 at 20:08
ouflakouflak
773410
773410
EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
10
I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
add a comment |
EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
10
I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
EU parliament can still push the membership ending to 30th June
– Jules R
Jan 17 at 15:16
10
10
I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
I'm fairly certain that such a move would count as something else happening.
– ouflak
Jan 17 at 15:22
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Also, I don't think the EU parliament can do so on its own; if anything the UK would have to agree. The only unilateral action available seems to be the UK retracting its Article 50 notice.
– MSalters
Jan 17 at 17:03
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
Of course, EU parliament would do it on UK requirement, not on its own.
– Jules R
Jan 18 at 7:59
add a comment |
No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
4
Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
2
Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
2
@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
1
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
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No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
4
Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
2
Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
2
@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
1
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
|
show 6 more comments
No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
answered Jan 15 at 20:57
Joe CJoe C
2,014425
2,014425
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
4
Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
2
Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
2
@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
1
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
|
show 6 more comments
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
4
Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
2
Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
2
@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
1
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:15
4
4
Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
Indeed. Although it does guarantee there will be an open motion brought by a government minister within 21 days (actually on Monday 21st January [for Reasons]) onto which members of the house will attempt to hang all kinds of interesting amendments.
– origimbo
Jan 15 at 21:52
2
2
Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
Yes, though these potential amendments fall outside the scope of this question. They may become relevant to a similar question next week, though, depending on what happens then.
– Joe C
Jan 15 at 21:55
2
2
@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
@WS2 It would require the Withdrawal Act to be repealed, which would be by means of a European Union (Withdrawal) (Repeal) Act.
– Andrew Leach
Jan 17 at 21:22
1
1
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
@WS2 There is a place for arguing in favour of an Article 50 extension and against no-deal, but this question is not it. Legally, even an extension would require amending the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, as it specifies the date and time of departure.
– Joe C
Jan 17 at 22:35
|
show 6 more comments
Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrow's vote of no confidence or the vote fails: Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker, the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. With that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of March. Note this is currently the default position.
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw Article 50 and the UK will remain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible, etc.)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above, there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal, or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
edited Jan 17 at 20:01
RDFozz
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answered Jan 15 at 20:20
Steve SmithSteve Smith
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Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Philipp♦
Jan 17 at 22:49
add a comment |
Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrow's vote of no confidence or the vote fails: Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker, the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. With that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of March. Note this is currently the default position.
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw Article 50 and the UK will remain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible, etc.)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above, there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal, or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
edited Jan 17 at 20:01
RDFozz
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answered Jan 15 at 20:20
Steve SmithSteve Smith
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Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Philipp♦
Jan 17 at 22:49
add a comment |
Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrow's vote of no confidence or the vote fails: Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker, the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. With that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of March. Note this is currently the default position.
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw Article 50 and the UK will remain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible, etc.)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above, there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal, or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
edited Jan 17 at 20:01
RDFozz
1033
answered Jan 15 at 20:20
Steve SmithSteve Smith
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Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrow's vote of no confidence or the vote fails: Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker, the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. With that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of March. Note this is currently the default position.
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw Article 50 and the UK will remain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible, etc.)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above, there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal, or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
Jan 15 at 19:55
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@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
Jan 15 at 19:58
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@DrunkCynic The core of the question is whether the Parliament vote concerns the terms of the deal or the Brexit itself, which makes it pretty narrow and definitely answerable.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jan 16 at 8:50
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@MartijnHeemels - yes, I have edited it. Thanks.
– Alexei
Jan 16 at 10:01
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Let us hope and pray that my definitely-not-a-slave friends across the pond start to understand how much they don't want to undo the progress of World War 2.
– Spencer Williams
Jan 16 at 16:19