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I need to run some program within crontab , but how can the program know about dbus session id ? it's only available for programs launched by session managers.

The problem is somewhat similar to accessing the X display and finding the location of the X cookie file. (Also, refer to these questions if you want to launch a GUI program on the user's display.)

Dbus stores the session address in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus. The name of the file is $machine_id-$display_number, where $machine_id is a randomly generated number stored in /var/lib/dbus/machine-id and $display_number is the X display number ($DISPLAY is :$display_number or :$display_number.$screen_number). The file in ~/.dbus/session-bus is parseable by a shell and contains definitions for DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID.

dbus_session_file=~/.dbus/session-bus/$(cat /var/lib/dbus/machine-id)-0
if [ -e "$dbus_session_file" ]; then
 . "$dbus_session_file"
 export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID
 dbus-send …
fi

Beware that there's no guarantee that the dbus daemon is still available. The user may have logged out.

An alternative method is to find the PID of a process in the desktop session, and obtain the dbus address from its environment.

export $(</proc/$pid/environ tr \0 \n | grep -E '^DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=')

If the crontab is running as root and you want to communicate with the session of whatever user is logged in on the console, see Can I launch a graphical program on another user's desktop as root?

I think if you know the pid of the gnome session manager, then you read the environment from /proc filesystem.

GNOME_SESSION_PID=<PID_OF_GNOME_SESSION> 
READ_SESSION_COOKIE="$(grep -z DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS /proc/$GNOME_SESSION_PID/environ|cut -d= -f2-)"

Use the SESSION id then, with other programs like notify-send or dbus* tools.

Cheers.

ps -u yourlogin e | grep -Eo 'dbus-daemon.*address=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-[A-Za-z0-9]10' | tail -c35

I can't comment on Vincenzo's answer, but I find his answer works best for me on KDE4.

I've had to slightly modify the command though. For me it's:

ps -u yourlogin e | grep -Eo 'dbus-daemon.*ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-[A-Za-z0-9]10' | tail -c35

Notice ADDRESS in capital letters.

Yes DBus must have a x session.
Like earlier answers, 'DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS' must have a value before starting . However, you could use 'dbus-launch' to create this value. Following snippet could be put in a script called from crontab.

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then
 eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax`
fi
echo "D-Bus daemon address is:"
echo "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"

# -E to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS. Crucial to make DBUS work.
sudo -u <user> -E <program> 

One setback with this solution is that the session might hang around after you've stopped your software.