Does Sultai Ascendancy interact with cards that care about surveil?
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Does Sultai Ascendancy interact with cards that care about surveil? Like
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Does Sultai Ascendancy interact with cards that care about surveil? Like
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Does Sultai Ascendancy interact with cards that care about surveil? Like
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Does Sultai Ascendancy interact with cards that care about surveil? Like
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No, Sultai Ascendancy does not interact with cards that care about surveil. Surveil is a specific keyword ability defined in rule 701.41. Cards that trigger when you surveil only trigger if the instruction contains that keyword. The oracle text of Sultai Ascendancy describes an action that is the same as surveil, but it does not use the word "surveil".
Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
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It doesn't look like it does. Surveil is a keyword, and while it didn't exist when Sultai Ascendancy came out, it does not appear on the Oracle card text either. Sometimes, old cards do get updated when new keyword (compare for example the Oracle and the Printed text for the Alpha Edition Serra Angel), but it did not happen in this case. Therefore, Sultai Ascendancy's ability isn't keyworded Surveil and your Dimir Spybug won't profit.
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The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
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No, Sultai Ascendancy does not interact with cards that care about surveil. Surveil is a specific keyword ability defined in rule 701.41. Cards that trigger when you surveil only trigger if the instruction contains that keyword. The oracle text of Sultai Ascendancy describes an action that is the same as surveil, but it does not use the word "surveil".
Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
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No, Sultai Ascendancy does not interact with cards that care about surveil. Surveil is a specific keyword ability defined in rule 701.41. Cards that trigger when you surveil only trigger if the instruction contains that keyword. The oracle text of Sultai Ascendancy describes an action that is the same as surveil, but it does not use the word "surveil".
Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
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No, Sultai Ascendancy does not interact with cards that care about surveil. Surveil is a specific keyword ability defined in rule 701.41. Cards that trigger when you surveil only trigger if the instruction contains that keyword. The oracle text of Sultai Ascendancy describes an action that is the same as surveil, but it does not use the word "surveil".
No, Sultai Ascendancy does not interact with cards that care about surveil. Surveil is a specific keyword ability defined in rule 701.41. Cards that trigger when you surveil only trigger if the instruction contains that keyword. The oracle text of Sultai Ascendancy describes an action that is the same as surveil, but it does not use the word "surveil".
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Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
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Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
– ikegami
Dec 5 at 9:34
Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
– ikegami
Dec 5 at 9:34
Similarly, things that care about destruction (e.g. Karmic Justice) don't care about stuff that moves permanents from the battlefield to the graveyard by any means other than destruction (e.g. Sacrifice). Even if ability A is defined in terms of ability B, it doesn't make the two abilities equivalent.
– ikegami
Dec 5 at 9:34
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It doesn't look like it does. Surveil is a keyword, and while it didn't exist when Sultai Ascendancy came out, it does not appear on the Oracle card text either. Sometimes, old cards do get updated when new keyword (compare for example the Oracle and the Printed text for the Alpha Edition Serra Angel), but it did not happen in this case. Therefore, Sultai Ascendancy's ability isn't keyworded Surveil and your Dimir Spybug won't profit.
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The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
– doppelgreener
Dec 4 at 18:25
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It doesn't look like it does. Surveil is a keyword, and while it didn't exist when Sultai Ascendancy came out, it does not appear on the Oracle card text either. Sometimes, old cards do get updated when new keyword (compare for example the Oracle and the Printed text for the Alpha Edition Serra Angel), but it did not happen in this case. Therefore, Sultai Ascendancy's ability isn't keyworded Surveil and your Dimir Spybug won't profit.
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The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
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Dec 4 at 18:25
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It doesn't look like it does. Surveil is a keyword, and while it didn't exist when Sultai Ascendancy came out, it does not appear on the Oracle card text either. Sometimes, old cards do get updated when new keyword (compare for example the Oracle and the Printed text for the Alpha Edition Serra Angel), but it did not happen in this case. Therefore, Sultai Ascendancy's ability isn't keyworded Surveil and your Dimir Spybug won't profit.
It doesn't look like it does. Surveil is a keyword, and while it didn't exist when Sultai Ascendancy came out, it does not appear on the Oracle card text either. Sometimes, old cards do get updated when new keyword (compare for example the Oracle and the Printed text for the Alpha Edition Serra Angel), but it did not happen in this case. Therefore, Sultai Ascendancy's ability isn't keyworded Surveil and your Dimir Spybug won't profit.
answered Dec 4 at 17:35
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The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
– doppelgreener
Dec 4 at 18:25
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The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
– doppelgreener
Dec 4 at 18:25
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The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
– doppelgreener
Dec 4 at 18:25
The difference is cards only receive this type of errata for evergreen keywords: markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/180093974523/…
– doppelgreener
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