Can arara detect a rule inside a input file ?
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I started to use the nice arara
package to automate my compilation process for my thesis.
I know it is better to place the rules using e.g. % arara : pdflatex
placed at the beginning of the .tex
file to be compiled but I was wondering if it was possible to place this call inside an file called with input...
.
The reason is the following :
I would like to use arara
on multiple files but these do not posess any rules.
However, they share some header.tex
file containing macro and style definitions, which is called with input
just after the documentclass
definition.
So I'd rather modify the common header.tex
file instead of all my other files.
input arara
|
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I started to use the nice arara
package to automate my compilation process for my thesis.
I know it is better to place the rules using e.g. % arara : pdflatex
placed at the beginning of the .tex
file to be compiled but I was wondering if it was possible to place this call inside an file called with input...
.
The reason is the following :
I would like to use arara
on multiple files but these do not posess any rules.
However, they share some header.tex
file containing macro and style definitions, which is called with input
just after the documentclass
definition.
So I'd rather modify the common header.tex
file instead of all my other files.
input arara
1
I have no idea about arara, but I guess it doesn't parse the file at all, only the first n lines for% arara
.
– Skillmon
Dec 12 at 14:06
1
@Skillmon Well, not only the first n lines in version 4, but at least no input files.
– TeXnician
Dec 12 at 14:08
1
Since the file name that youinput
can be built from TeX macros, arara would have to contain a complete TeX engine to do this completely. And then somebody is going to want to correctly handleinclude
s inif...fi
constructions, rules ininclude
files taking account ofincludeonly
, etc - it's probably easiest for the developers to "just say no"!
– alephzero
Dec 12 at 14:24
4
@alephzero Clearly you don't know the developer. :)
– Alan Munn
Dec 12 at 14:31
@alephzero I think@filelist
keeps the heavy lifting within TeX.
– StrongBad
Dec 12 at 16:31
|
show 1 more comment
I started to use the nice arara
package to automate my compilation process for my thesis.
I know it is better to place the rules using e.g. % arara : pdflatex
placed at the beginning of the .tex
file to be compiled but I was wondering if it was possible to place this call inside an file called with input...
.
The reason is the following :
I would like to use arara
on multiple files but these do not posess any rules.
However, they share some header.tex
file containing macro and style definitions, which is called with input
just after the documentclass
definition.
So I'd rather modify the common header.tex
file instead of all my other files.
input arara
I started to use the nice arara
package to automate my compilation process for my thesis.
I know it is better to place the rules using e.g. % arara : pdflatex
placed at the beginning of the .tex
file to be compiled but I was wondering if it was possible to place this call inside an file called with input...
.
The reason is the following :
I would like to use arara
on multiple files but these do not posess any rules.
However, they share some header.tex
file containing macro and style definitions, which is called with input
just after the documentclass
definition.
So I'd rather modify the common header.tex
file instead of all my other files.
input arara
input arara
asked Dec 12 at 14:03
BambOo
3,0381527
3,0381527
1
I have no idea about arara, but I guess it doesn't parse the file at all, only the first n lines for% arara
.
– Skillmon
Dec 12 at 14:06
1
@Skillmon Well, not only the first n lines in version 4, but at least no input files.
– TeXnician
Dec 12 at 14:08
1
Since the file name that youinput
can be built from TeX macros, arara would have to contain a complete TeX engine to do this completely. And then somebody is going to want to correctly handleinclude
s inif...fi
constructions, rules ininclude
files taking account ofincludeonly
, etc - it's probably easiest for the developers to "just say no"!
– alephzero
Dec 12 at 14:24
4
@alephzero Clearly you don't know the developer. :)
– Alan Munn
Dec 12 at 14:31
@alephzero I think@filelist
keeps the heavy lifting within TeX.
– StrongBad
Dec 12 at 16:31
|
show 1 more comment
1
I have no idea about arara, but I guess it doesn't parse the file at all, only the first n lines for% arara
.
– Skillmon
Dec 12 at 14:06
1
@Skillmon Well, not only the first n lines in version 4, but at least no input files.
– TeXnician
Dec 12 at 14:08
1
Since the file name that youinput
can be built from TeX macros, arara would have to contain a complete TeX engine to do this completely. And then somebody is going to want to correctly handleinclude
s inif...fi
constructions, rules ininclude
files taking account ofincludeonly
, etc - it's probably easiest for the developers to "just say no"!
– alephzero
Dec 12 at 14:24
4
@alephzero Clearly you don't know the developer. :)
– Alan Munn
Dec 12 at 14:31
@alephzero I think@filelist
keeps the heavy lifting within TeX.
– StrongBad
Dec 12 at 16:31
1
1
I have no idea about arara, but I guess it doesn't parse the file at all, only the first n lines for
% arara
.– Skillmon
Dec 12 at 14:06
I have no idea about arara, but I guess it doesn't parse the file at all, only the first n lines for
% arara
.– Skillmon
Dec 12 at 14:06
1
1
@Skillmon Well, not only the first n lines in version 4, but at least no input files.
– TeXnician
Dec 12 at 14:08
@Skillmon Well, not only the first n lines in version 4, but at least no input files.
– TeXnician
Dec 12 at 14:08
1
1
Since the file name that you
input
can be built from TeX macros, arara would have to contain a complete TeX engine to do this completely. And then somebody is going to want to correctly handle include
s in if...fi
constructions, rules in include
files taking account of includeonly
, etc - it's probably easiest for the developers to "just say no"!– alephzero
Dec 12 at 14:24
Since the file name that you
input
can be built from TeX macros, arara would have to contain a complete TeX engine to do this completely. And then somebody is going to want to correctly handle include
s in if...fi
constructions, rules in include
files taking account of includeonly
, etc - it's probably easiest for the developers to "just say no"!– alephzero
Dec 12 at 14:24
4
4
@alephzero Clearly you don't know the developer. :)
– Alan Munn
Dec 12 at 14:31
@alephzero Clearly you don't know the developer. :)
– Alan Munn
Dec 12 at 14:31
@alephzero I think
@filelist
keeps the heavy lifting within TeX.– StrongBad
Dec 12 at 16:31
@alephzero I think
@filelist
keeps the heavy lifting within TeX.– StrongBad
Dec 12 at 16:31
|
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I am sorry, arara
limits the directive lookup scope to the current document. It would be quite challenging to detect special macros and process them accordingly, like following a file through input
, include
or similar streams. It is really by design.
That's being said, I've been thinking of adding a new feature in the near future called metadirective. That way, we can change the inner workings of the tool itself at runtime. Sorry if it sounds too vague for now, but your question seems to be one of the cases a metadirective could be used for external file reading. I still do not have the faintest idea of how it would be. :)
However, as alephzero mentioned in the comments, correctly parsing TeX would require a TeX engine in itself to resolve nontrivial scenarios. I want arara
to be the emacs of the TeX world, but not quite the TeX engine of the TeX world (yet). :)
Let me check how things go in the next weeks, so I can work on a new feature draft.
Regarding your scenario, perhaps the --preamble
command line flag could be of interest. To quote my lovely user manual that took me a lifetime to write it: :)
Some TeX documents require the same automation steps, e.g, a set of articles. To this end, so as to avoid repeating the same preamble over and over in this specific scenario,
arara
has the possibility of setting predefined preambles in a special section of the configuration file identified by a unique key for later use. This command line option prepends the predefined preamble referenced by thename
key to the current document and then proceeds to extract directives, as usual. For instance:twopdftex: |
% arara: pdftex
% arara: pdftex
Source file:
doc9.tex
:Hello world.
bye
In this example, we have a preamble named
twopdftex
and a TeX file nameddoc9.tex
with no directives. Of course, our tool will complain about missing directives, unless we deliberately inject the two directives from the predefined preamble into the current execution:$ arara -p twopdftex doc9.tex
....
Processing 'doc9.tex' (size: 18 bytes, last modified: 05/29/2018
14:39:21), please wait.
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
Total: 0.96 seconds
Hope it helps. :)
2
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
@egreg that's accurate.:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
add a comment |
While arara
cannot figure out what files are going to be read you can write a directive that will call arara
on a different file. I think I have a workflow somewhat similar to yours where I want all my directives in a file called something like header.tex
and I work on body.tex
. I list all my directives in header.tex
and in body.tex
I have a single directive
% arara: mainfile: rootfile: header.tex
This directive is defined as mainfile.yaml
:
identifier: mainfile
name: MAINFILE
commands:
- name: Run Arara on file
command: >
@
return getCommand('arara', '-v', rootfile);
arguments:
- identifier: rootfile
flag: >
@
return parameters.rootfile;
If you want to automatically deal with directives spread across arbitrary files that may or may not be included, you might be able to hack something together with listfiles
to output all the files that are loaded and then have a new directive that calls mainfile
on all the sub files, but this sounds difficult and probably not worth it.
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
add a comment |
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I am sorry, arara
limits the directive lookup scope to the current document. It would be quite challenging to detect special macros and process them accordingly, like following a file through input
, include
or similar streams. It is really by design.
That's being said, I've been thinking of adding a new feature in the near future called metadirective. That way, we can change the inner workings of the tool itself at runtime. Sorry if it sounds too vague for now, but your question seems to be one of the cases a metadirective could be used for external file reading. I still do not have the faintest idea of how it would be. :)
However, as alephzero mentioned in the comments, correctly parsing TeX would require a TeX engine in itself to resolve nontrivial scenarios. I want arara
to be the emacs of the TeX world, but not quite the TeX engine of the TeX world (yet). :)
Let me check how things go in the next weeks, so I can work on a new feature draft.
Regarding your scenario, perhaps the --preamble
command line flag could be of interest. To quote my lovely user manual that took me a lifetime to write it: :)
Some TeX documents require the same automation steps, e.g, a set of articles. To this end, so as to avoid repeating the same preamble over and over in this specific scenario,
arara
has the possibility of setting predefined preambles in a special section of the configuration file identified by a unique key for later use. This command line option prepends the predefined preamble referenced by thename
key to the current document and then proceeds to extract directives, as usual. For instance:twopdftex: |
% arara: pdftex
% arara: pdftex
Source file:
doc9.tex
:Hello world.
bye
In this example, we have a preamble named
twopdftex
and a TeX file nameddoc9.tex
with no directives. Of course, our tool will complain about missing directives, unless we deliberately inject the two directives from the predefined preamble into the current execution:$ arara -p twopdftex doc9.tex
....
Processing 'doc9.tex' (size: 18 bytes, last modified: 05/29/2018
14:39:21), please wait.
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
Total: 0.96 seconds
Hope it helps. :)
2
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
@egreg that's accurate.:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
add a comment |
I am sorry, arara
limits the directive lookup scope to the current document. It would be quite challenging to detect special macros and process them accordingly, like following a file through input
, include
or similar streams. It is really by design.
That's being said, I've been thinking of adding a new feature in the near future called metadirective. That way, we can change the inner workings of the tool itself at runtime. Sorry if it sounds too vague for now, but your question seems to be one of the cases a metadirective could be used for external file reading. I still do not have the faintest idea of how it would be. :)
However, as alephzero mentioned in the comments, correctly parsing TeX would require a TeX engine in itself to resolve nontrivial scenarios. I want arara
to be the emacs of the TeX world, but not quite the TeX engine of the TeX world (yet). :)
Let me check how things go in the next weeks, so I can work on a new feature draft.
Regarding your scenario, perhaps the --preamble
command line flag could be of interest. To quote my lovely user manual that took me a lifetime to write it: :)
Some TeX documents require the same automation steps, e.g, a set of articles. To this end, so as to avoid repeating the same preamble over and over in this specific scenario,
arara
has the possibility of setting predefined preambles in a special section of the configuration file identified by a unique key for later use. This command line option prepends the predefined preamble referenced by thename
key to the current document and then proceeds to extract directives, as usual. For instance:twopdftex: |
% arara: pdftex
% arara: pdftex
Source file:
doc9.tex
:Hello world.
bye
In this example, we have a preamble named
twopdftex
and a TeX file nameddoc9.tex
with no directives. Of course, our tool will complain about missing directives, unless we deliberately inject the two directives from the predefined preamble into the current execution:$ arara -p twopdftex doc9.tex
....
Processing 'doc9.tex' (size: 18 bytes, last modified: 05/29/2018
14:39:21), please wait.
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
Total: 0.96 seconds
Hope it helps. :)
2
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
@egreg that's accurate.:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
add a comment |
I am sorry, arara
limits the directive lookup scope to the current document. It would be quite challenging to detect special macros and process them accordingly, like following a file through input
, include
or similar streams. It is really by design.
That's being said, I've been thinking of adding a new feature in the near future called metadirective. That way, we can change the inner workings of the tool itself at runtime. Sorry if it sounds too vague for now, but your question seems to be one of the cases a metadirective could be used for external file reading. I still do not have the faintest idea of how it would be. :)
However, as alephzero mentioned in the comments, correctly parsing TeX would require a TeX engine in itself to resolve nontrivial scenarios. I want arara
to be the emacs of the TeX world, but not quite the TeX engine of the TeX world (yet). :)
Let me check how things go in the next weeks, so I can work on a new feature draft.
Regarding your scenario, perhaps the --preamble
command line flag could be of interest. To quote my lovely user manual that took me a lifetime to write it: :)
Some TeX documents require the same automation steps, e.g, a set of articles. To this end, so as to avoid repeating the same preamble over and over in this specific scenario,
arara
has the possibility of setting predefined preambles in a special section of the configuration file identified by a unique key for later use. This command line option prepends the predefined preamble referenced by thename
key to the current document and then proceeds to extract directives, as usual. For instance:twopdftex: |
% arara: pdftex
% arara: pdftex
Source file:
doc9.tex
:Hello world.
bye
In this example, we have a preamble named
twopdftex
and a TeX file nameddoc9.tex
with no directives. Of course, our tool will complain about missing directives, unless we deliberately inject the two directives from the predefined preamble into the current execution:$ arara -p twopdftex doc9.tex
....
Processing 'doc9.tex' (size: 18 bytes, last modified: 05/29/2018
14:39:21), please wait.
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
Total: 0.96 seconds
Hope it helps. :)
I am sorry, arara
limits the directive lookup scope to the current document. It would be quite challenging to detect special macros and process them accordingly, like following a file through input
, include
or similar streams. It is really by design.
That's being said, I've been thinking of adding a new feature in the near future called metadirective. That way, we can change the inner workings of the tool itself at runtime. Sorry if it sounds too vague for now, but your question seems to be one of the cases a metadirective could be used for external file reading. I still do not have the faintest idea of how it would be. :)
However, as alephzero mentioned in the comments, correctly parsing TeX would require a TeX engine in itself to resolve nontrivial scenarios. I want arara
to be the emacs of the TeX world, but not quite the TeX engine of the TeX world (yet). :)
Let me check how things go in the next weeks, so I can work on a new feature draft.
Regarding your scenario, perhaps the --preamble
command line flag could be of interest. To quote my lovely user manual that took me a lifetime to write it: :)
Some TeX documents require the same automation steps, e.g, a set of articles. To this end, so as to avoid repeating the same preamble over and over in this specific scenario,
arara
has the possibility of setting predefined preambles in a special section of the configuration file identified by a unique key for later use. This command line option prepends the predefined preamble referenced by thename
key to the current document and then proceeds to extract directives, as usual. For instance:twopdftex: |
% arara: pdftex
% arara: pdftex
Source file:
doc9.tex
:Hello world.
bye
In this example, we have a preamble named
twopdftex
and a TeX file nameddoc9.tex
with no directives. Of course, our tool will complain about missing directives, unless we deliberately inject the two directives from the predefined preamble into the current execution:$ arara -p twopdftex doc9.tex
....
Processing 'doc9.tex' (size: 18 bytes, last modified: 05/29/2018
14:39:21), please wait.
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
(PDFTeX) PDFTeX engine .................................. SUCCESS
Total: 0.96 seconds
Hope it helps. :)
answered Dec 12 at 14:52
Paulo Cereda
33.2k8125208
33.2k8125208
2
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
@egreg that's accurate.:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
add a comment |
2
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
@egreg that's accurate.:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
2
2
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.
:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
It took much less time to write the user manual than your thesis.
:-)
– egreg
Dec 12 at 15:46
@egreg that's accurate.
:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
@egreg that's accurate.
:)
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:03
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
I was afraid it was not possible. As this is more of a laziness matter on my side, it is not such a big deal. Thank you very much for your advice anyway !
– BambOo
Dec 12 at 16:12
add a comment |
While arara
cannot figure out what files are going to be read you can write a directive that will call arara
on a different file. I think I have a workflow somewhat similar to yours where I want all my directives in a file called something like header.tex
and I work on body.tex
. I list all my directives in header.tex
and in body.tex
I have a single directive
% arara: mainfile: rootfile: header.tex
This directive is defined as mainfile.yaml
:
identifier: mainfile
name: MAINFILE
commands:
- name: Run Arara on file
command: >
@
return getCommand('arara', '-v', rootfile);
arguments:
- identifier: rootfile
flag: >
@
return parameters.rootfile;
If you want to automatically deal with directives spread across arbitrary files that may or may not be included, you might be able to hack something together with listfiles
to output all the files that are loaded and then have a new directive that calls mainfile
on all the sub files, but this sounds difficult and probably not worth it.
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
add a comment |
While arara
cannot figure out what files are going to be read you can write a directive that will call arara
on a different file. I think I have a workflow somewhat similar to yours where I want all my directives in a file called something like header.tex
and I work on body.tex
. I list all my directives in header.tex
and in body.tex
I have a single directive
% arara: mainfile: rootfile: header.tex
This directive is defined as mainfile.yaml
:
identifier: mainfile
name: MAINFILE
commands:
- name: Run Arara on file
command: >
@
return getCommand('arara', '-v', rootfile);
arguments:
- identifier: rootfile
flag: >
@
return parameters.rootfile;
If you want to automatically deal with directives spread across arbitrary files that may or may not be included, you might be able to hack something together with listfiles
to output all the files that are loaded and then have a new directive that calls mainfile
on all the sub files, but this sounds difficult and probably not worth it.
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
add a comment |
While arara
cannot figure out what files are going to be read you can write a directive that will call arara
on a different file. I think I have a workflow somewhat similar to yours where I want all my directives in a file called something like header.tex
and I work on body.tex
. I list all my directives in header.tex
and in body.tex
I have a single directive
% arara: mainfile: rootfile: header.tex
This directive is defined as mainfile.yaml
:
identifier: mainfile
name: MAINFILE
commands:
- name: Run Arara on file
command: >
@
return getCommand('arara', '-v', rootfile);
arguments:
- identifier: rootfile
flag: >
@
return parameters.rootfile;
If you want to automatically deal with directives spread across arbitrary files that may or may not be included, you might be able to hack something together with listfiles
to output all the files that are loaded and then have a new directive that calls mainfile
on all the sub files, but this sounds difficult and probably not worth it.
While arara
cannot figure out what files are going to be read you can write a directive that will call arara
on a different file. I think I have a workflow somewhat similar to yours where I want all my directives in a file called something like header.tex
and I work on body.tex
. I list all my directives in header.tex
and in body.tex
I have a single directive
% arara: mainfile: rootfile: header.tex
This directive is defined as mainfile.yaml
:
identifier: mainfile
name: MAINFILE
commands:
- name: Run Arara on file
command: >
@
return getCommand('arara', '-v', rootfile);
arguments:
- identifier: rootfile
flag: >
@
return parameters.rootfile;
If you want to automatically deal with directives spread across arbitrary files that may or may not be included, you might be able to hack something together with listfiles
to output all the files that are loaded and then have a new directive that calls mainfile
on all the sub files, but this sounds difficult and probably not worth it.
answered Dec 12 at 16:15
StrongBad
13.1k646102
13.1k646102
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
add a comment |
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
ooh I like this approach!
– Paulo Cereda
Dec 12 at 16:32
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I have no idea about arara, but I guess it doesn't parse the file at all, only the first n lines for
% arara
.– Skillmon
Dec 12 at 14:06
1
@Skillmon Well, not only the first n lines in version 4, but at least no input files.
– TeXnician
Dec 12 at 14:08
1
Since the file name that you
input
can be built from TeX macros, arara would have to contain a complete TeX engine to do this completely. And then somebody is going to want to correctly handleinclude
s inif...fi
constructions, rules ininclude
files taking account ofincludeonly
, etc - it's probably easiest for the developers to "just say no"!– alephzero
Dec 12 at 14:24
4
@alephzero Clearly you don't know the developer. :)
– Alan Munn
Dec 12 at 14:31
@alephzero I think
@filelist
keeps the heavy lifting within TeX.– StrongBad
Dec 12 at 16:31