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Let $x$ and $y$ be two vectors. What can you say when $||x||+||y||=||x+y||$?










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    What is your space and what norm are you using? If you are using the standard norm on an Euclidean space then $x=ay$ for some $a geq 0$ or $y=ax$ for some $a geq 0$.
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Let $x$ and $y$ be two vectors. What can you say when $||x||+||y||=||x+y||$?










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    What is your space and what norm are you using? If you are using the standard norm on an Euclidean space then $x=ay$ for some $a geq 0$ or $y=ax$ for some $a geq 0$.
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    Nov 22 at 6:41












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  • 2




    What is your space and what norm are you using? If you are using the standard norm on an Euclidean space then $x=ay$ for some $a geq 0$ or $y=ax$ for some $a geq 0$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 6:41












  • 2




    What is your space and what norm are you using? If you are using the standard norm on an Euclidean space then $x=ay$ for some $a geq 0$ or $y=ax$ for some $a geq 0$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 6:41







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What is your space and what norm are you using? If you are using the standard norm on an Euclidean space then $x=ay$ for some $a geq 0$ or $y=ax$ for some $a geq 0$.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 6:41




What is your space and what norm are you using? If you are using the standard norm on an Euclidean space then $x=ay$ for some $a geq 0$ or $y=ax$ for some $a geq 0$.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 6:41










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In $mathbb R^n$ you may consider geometric view of the relation
$$||x||+||y||=||x+y||$$
it says you have a triangle with sides $x$, $y$ and $x+y$. Such triangle trivially is a segment and therefore $x$, $y$ lie on $x+y$. This shows that $x$ and $y$ are a positive multiplier of each other, that is $x=ky$ or $y=kx$, where $kgeqslant0$.






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  • I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
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  • Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
    – Nosrati
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This is the equality case for triangular inequality which holds if and only if $x$ and $y$ are multiple vectors with the same direction, that is $y=kx$ with $k>0$ (excluding trivial cases $x=0,lor ,y=0$).






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    In $mathbb R^n$ you may consider geometric view of the relation
    $$||x||+||y||=||x+y||$$
    it says you have a triangle with sides $x$, $y$ and $x+y$. Such triangle trivially is a segment and therefore $x$, $y$ lie on $x+y$. This shows that $x$ and $y$ are a positive multiplier of each other, that is $x=ky$ or $y=kx$, where $kgeqslant0$.






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    • I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 7:08











    • Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 8:22















    up vote
    9
    down vote













    In $mathbb R^n$ you may consider geometric view of the relation
    $$||x||+||y||=||x+y||$$
    it says you have a triangle with sides $x$, $y$ and $x+y$. Such triangle trivially is a segment and therefore $x$, $y$ lie on $x+y$. This shows that $x$ and $y$ are a positive multiplier of each other, that is $x=ky$ or $y=kx$, where $kgeqslant0$.






    share|cite|improve this answer






















    • I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 7:08











    • Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 8:22













    up vote
    9
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    up vote
    9
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    In $mathbb R^n$ you may consider geometric view of the relation
    $$||x||+||y||=||x+y||$$
    it says you have a triangle with sides $x$, $y$ and $x+y$. Such triangle trivially is a segment and therefore $x$, $y$ lie on $x+y$. This shows that $x$ and $y$ are a positive multiplier of each other, that is $x=ky$ or $y=kx$, where $kgeqslant0$.






    share|cite|improve this answer














    In $mathbb R^n$ you may consider geometric view of the relation
    $$||x||+||y||=||x+y||$$
    it says you have a triangle with sides $x$, $y$ and $x+y$. Such triangle trivially is a segment and therefore $x$, $y$ lie on $x+y$. This shows that $x$ and $y$ are a positive multiplier of each other, that is $x=ky$ or $y=kx$, where $kgeqslant0$.







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    answered Nov 22 at 6:48









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    • I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 7:08











    • Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 8:22

















    • I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 7:08











    • Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
      – Nosrati
      Nov 22 at 8:22
















    I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
    – Nosrati
    Nov 22 at 7:08





    I don't care the vote, but I like to know where of my answer is wrong.
    – Nosrati
    Nov 22 at 7:08













    Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
    – Nosrati
    Nov 22 at 8:22





    Of course. Simply $x=veci$ and $y=-veci$ in $mathbb R^2$.
    – Nosrati
    Nov 22 at 8:22











    up vote
    5
    down vote













    This is the equality case for triangular inequality which holds if and only if $x$ and $y$ are multiple vectors with the same direction, that is $y=kx$ with $k>0$ (excluding trivial cases $x=0,lor ,y=0$).






    share|cite|improve this answer
























      up vote
      5
      down vote













      This is the equality case for triangular inequality which holds if and only if $x$ and $y$ are multiple vectors with the same direction, that is $y=kx$ with $k>0$ (excluding trivial cases $x=0,lor ,y=0$).






      share|cite|improve this answer






















        up vote
        5
        down vote










        up vote
        5
        down vote









        This is the equality case for triangular inequality which holds if and only if $x$ and $y$ are multiple vectors with the same direction, that is $y=kx$ with $k>0$ (excluding trivial cases $x=0,lor ,y=0$).






        share|cite|improve this answer












        This is the equality case for triangular inequality which holds if and only if $x$ and $y$ are multiple vectors with the same direction, that is $y=kx$ with $k>0$ (excluding trivial cases $x=0,lor ,y=0$).







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