How to proceed with this integral?
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Let $ G:= left (x,y) in mathbbR^2 : 0 < y,: x^2 + fracy^29 <1: ,: x^2+y^2 > 1 right $.
I want to calculate this integral:
$ displaystyleint_G x^2,dxdy $.
I want to try with polar coordinates:
so I set $ (x,y) = (rcosphi,rsinphi)$, but
I am not sure how to get the right boundaries for $phi $. Isn't it $ x^2 +y^2 = r^2 $ ?
Any help is very appreciated !
calculus integration definite-integrals multiple-integral
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Let $ G:= left (x,y) in mathbbR^2 : 0 < y,: x^2 + fracy^29 <1: ,: x^2+y^2 > 1 right $.
I want to calculate this integral:
$ displaystyleint_G x^2,dxdy $.
I want to try with polar coordinates:
so I set $ (x,y) = (rcosphi,rsinphi)$, but
I am not sure how to get the right boundaries for $phi $. Isn't it $ x^2 +y^2 = r^2 $ ?
Any help is very appreciated !
calculus integration definite-integrals multiple-integral
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Let $ G:= left (x,y) in mathbbR^2 : 0 < y,: x^2 + fracy^29 <1: ,: x^2+y^2 > 1 right $.
I want to calculate this integral:
$ displaystyleint_G x^2,dxdy $.
I want to try with polar coordinates:
so I set $ (x,y) = (rcosphi,rsinphi)$, but
I am not sure how to get the right boundaries for $phi $. Isn't it $ x^2 +y^2 = r^2 $ ?
Any help is very appreciated !
calculus integration definite-integrals multiple-integral
Let $ G:= left (x,y) in mathbbR^2 : 0 < y,: x^2 + fracy^29 <1: ,: x^2+y^2 > 1 right $.
I want to calculate this integral:
$ displaystyleint_G x^2,dxdy $.
I want to try with polar coordinates:
so I set $ (x,y) = (rcosphi,rsinphi)$, but
I am not sure how to get the right boundaries for $phi $. Isn't it $ x^2 +y^2 = r^2 $ ?
Any help is very appreciated !
calculus integration definite-integrals multiple-integral
calculus integration definite-integrals multiple-integral
edited Nov 22 at 8:28
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asked Nov 22 at 8:10
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Even though I believe that the other answers are the best way to go, I think that you can use polar coordinates if you wish.
Since $y>0$, we are integrating over the first two quadrants, so that $0 leq phi leq pi$.
Since $x^2+y^2> 1$, we have $r > 1$, and since $x^2+y^2/9 < 1$, we see that
$$ r^2cos^2theta + fracr^2sin^2theta9 < 1 quad Rightarrow quad r < frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1. $$
Thus
beginalign
int_0^pi int_1^frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1 r^2cos^2theta cdot r ,mathrm dr , mathrm dtheta &= frac814 int_0^pi fraccos^2theta(8cos^2theta+1)^2 , mathrm dtheta - frac14 int_0^pi cos^2theta , mathrm dtheta = fracpi4.
endalign
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It is not a good idea to use polar coordinates. The integral can be written as $int_-1^1int_sqrt1-x^2 ^3sqrt1-x^2x^2, dy, dx=int_-1^12sqrt 1-x^2x^2, dx$. To evaluate this put $x=sin, theta$ and use the formulas $2sin, theta cos, theta =sin, 2theta$, $2sin^2, 2theta =1-cos (4theta)$.
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Why in polar coordinates? Maybe it is easier by cartesian coordinates. Note that in $G$, $-1leq xleq 1$ and
$$sqrt1-x^2<y<3sqrt1-x^2.$$
Therefore
$$int_G x^2,dxdy=int_x=-1^1x^2left(3sqrt1-x^2-sqrt1-x^2right)dx$$
Can you take it from here?
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3 Answers
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active
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up vote
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Even though I believe that the other answers are the best way to go, I think that you can use polar coordinates if you wish.
Since $y>0$, we are integrating over the first two quadrants, so that $0 leq phi leq pi$.
Since $x^2+y^2> 1$, we have $r > 1$, and since $x^2+y^2/9 < 1$, we see that
$$ r^2cos^2theta + fracr^2sin^2theta9 < 1 quad Rightarrow quad r < frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1. $$
Thus
beginalign
int_0^pi int_1^frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1 r^2cos^2theta cdot r ,mathrm dr , mathrm dtheta &= frac814 int_0^pi fraccos^2theta(8cos^2theta+1)^2 , mathrm dtheta - frac14 int_0^pi cos^2theta , mathrm dtheta = fracpi4.
endalign
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Even though I believe that the other answers are the best way to go, I think that you can use polar coordinates if you wish.
Since $y>0$, we are integrating over the first two quadrants, so that $0 leq phi leq pi$.
Since $x^2+y^2> 1$, we have $r > 1$, and since $x^2+y^2/9 < 1$, we see that
$$ r^2cos^2theta + fracr^2sin^2theta9 < 1 quad Rightarrow quad r < frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1. $$
Thus
beginalign
int_0^pi int_1^frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1 r^2cos^2theta cdot r ,mathrm dr , mathrm dtheta &= frac814 int_0^pi fraccos^2theta(8cos^2theta+1)^2 , mathrm dtheta - frac14 int_0^pi cos^2theta , mathrm dtheta = fracpi4.
endalign
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Even though I believe that the other answers are the best way to go, I think that you can use polar coordinates if you wish.
Since $y>0$, we are integrating over the first two quadrants, so that $0 leq phi leq pi$.
Since $x^2+y^2> 1$, we have $r > 1$, and since $x^2+y^2/9 < 1$, we see that
$$ r^2cos^2theta + fracr^2sin^2theta9 < 1 quad Rightarrow quad r < frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1. $$
Thus
beginalign
int_0^pi int_1^frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1 r^2cos^2theta cdot r ,mathrm dr , mathrm dtheta &= frac814 int_0^pi fraccos^2theta(8cos^2theta+1)^2 , mathrm dtheta - frac14 int_0^pi cos^2theta , mathrm dtheta = fracpi4.
endalign
Even though I believe that the other answers are the best way to go, I think that you can use polar coordinates if you wish.
Since $y>0$, we are integrating over the first two quadrants, so that $0 leq phi leq pi$.
Since $x^2+y^2> 1$, we have $r > 1$, and since $x^2+y^2/9 < 1$, we see that
$$ r^2cos^2theta + fracr^2sin^2theta9 < 1 quad Rightarrow quad r < frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1. $$
Thus
beginalign
int_0^pi int_1^frac3sqrt8cos^2theta+1 r^2cos^2theta cdot r ,mathrm dr , mathrm dtheta &= frac814 int_0^pi fraccos^2theta(8cos^2theta+1)^2 , mathrm dtheta - frac14 int_0^pi cos^2theta , mathrm dtheta = fracpi4.
endalign
edited Nov 22 at 13:05
answered Nov 22 at 8:37
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It is not a good idea to use polar coordinates. The integral can be written as $int_-1^1int_sqrt1-x^2 ^3sqrt1-x^2x^2, dy, dx=int_-1^12sqrt 1-x^2x^2, dx$. To evaluate this put $x=sin, theta$ and use the formulas $2sin, theta cos, theta =sin, 2theta$, $2sin^2, 2theta =1-cos (4theta)$.
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It is not a good idea to use polar coordinates. The integral can be written as $int_-1^1int_sqrt1-x^2 ^3sqrt1-x^2x^2, dy, dx=int_-1^12sqrt 1-x^2x^2, dx$. To evaluate this put $x=sin, theta$ and use the formulas $2sin, theta cos, theta =sin, 2theta$, $2sin^2, 2theta =1-cos (4theta)$.
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It is not a good idea to use polar coordinates. The integral can be written as $int_-1^1int_sqrt1-x^2 ^3sqrt1-x^2x^2, dy, dx=int_-1^12sqrt 1-x^2x^2, dx$. To evaluate this put $x=sin, theta$ and use the formulas $2sin, theta cos, theta =sin, 2theta$, $2sin^2, 2theta =1-cos (4theta)$.
It is not a good idea to use polar coordinates. The integral can be written as $int_-1^1int_sqrt1-x^2 ^3sqrt1-x^2x^2, dy, dx=int_-1^12sqrt 1-x^2x^2, dx$. To evaluate this put $x=sin, theta$ and use the formulas $2sin, theta cos, theta =sin, 2theta$, $2sin^2, 2theta =1-cos (4theta)$.
answered Nov 22 at 8:20
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Why in polar coordinates? Maybe it is easier by cartesian coordinates. Note that in $G$, $-1leq xleq 1$ and
$$sqrt1-x^2<y<3sqrt1-x^2.$$
Therefore
$$int_G x^2,dxdy=int_x=-1^1x^2left(3sqrt1-x^2-sqrt1-x^2right)dx$$
Can you take it from here?
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up vote
5
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Why in polar coordinates? Maybe it is easier by cartesian coordinates. Note that in $G$, $-1leq xleq 1$ and
$$sqrt1-x^2<y<3sqrt1-x^2.$$
Therefore
$$int_G x^2,dxdy=int_x=-1^1x^2left(3sqrt1-x^2-sqrt1-x^2right)dx$$
Can you take it from here?
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5
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up vote
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Why in polar coordinates? Maybe it is easier by cartesian coordinates. Note that in $G$, $-1leq xleq 1$ and
$$sqrt1-x^2<y<3sqrt1-x^2.$$
Therefore
$$int_G x^2,dxdy=int_x=-1^1x^2left(3sqrt1-x^2-sqrt1-x^2right)dx$$
Can you take it from here?
Why in polar coordinates? Maybe it is easier by cartesian coordinates. Note that in $G$, $-1leq xleq 1$ and
$$sqrt1-x^2<y<3sqrt1-x^2.$$
Therefore
$$int_G x^2,dxdy=int_x=-1^1x^2left(3sqrt1-x^2-sqrt1-x^2right)dx$$
Can you take it from here?
edited Nov 22 at 8:33
answered Nov 22 at 8:20
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