Windows-like LC_COLLATE?

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One of the most infuriating things that causes me much frustration when I am using Linux is the completely assinine way that files get sorted when sorting by name. This is compounded by the output of ls -l producing a different sort order than, say, Nautilus.



Is there a simple way to get Windows-like collation in Linux so I can stop beating my head against the wall?



Symbols > Numbers > Letters (modified letters such as o-umlaut just count as o)



This has been an open issue on the GNOME bug tracker for about 12 years or so now and I assume this will never be fixed properly, so perhaps there is a work around I can do?






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    Sounds like you want the C locale rather then a language/country specific one.
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 22:40










  • I've looked into that but from what I've read, both C and POSIX locales aren't quite right. Perhaps I misread?
    – Karai17
    Sep 7 at 23:07










  • Oh ok. Out of interest which is "wrong": Nautilus or ls?
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 23:09







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    After doing some more digging, I found that WINE has implemented this sort order for their purposes here: github.com/aidfarh/wine/blob/master/dlls/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:56






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    Also here is microsoft's definition of their own function: docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/desktop/api/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:59














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One of the most infuriating things that causes me much frustration when I am using Linux is the completely assinine way that files get sorted when sorting by name. This is compounded by the output of ls -l producing a different sort order than, say, Nautilus.



Is there a simple way to get Windows-like collation in Linux so I can stop beating my head against the wall?



Symbols > Numbers > Letters (modified letters such as o-umlaut just count as o)



This has been an open issue on the GNOME bug tracker for about 12 years or so now and I assume this will never be fixed properly, so perhaps there is a work around I can do?






bash gnome windows locale







share|improve this question

















  • 2




    Sounds like you want the C locale rather then a language/country specific one.
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 22:40










  • I've looked into that but from what I've read, both C and POSIX locales aren't quite right. Perhaps I misread?
    – Karai17
    Sep 7 at 23:07










  • Oh ok. Out of interest which is "wrong": Nautilus or ls?
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 23:09







  • 1




    After doing some more digging, I found that WINE has implemented this sort order for their purposes here: github.com/aidfarh/wine/blob/master/dlls/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:56






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    Also here is microsoft's definition of their own function: docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/desktop/api/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:59












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One of the most infuriating things that causes me much frustration when I am using Linux is the completely assinine way that files get sorted when sorting by name. This is compounded by the output of ls -l producing a different sort order than, say, Nautilus.



Is there a simple way to get Windows-like collation in Linux so I can stop beating my head against the wall?



Symbols > Numbers > Letters (modified letters such as o-umlaut just count as o)



This has been an open issue on the GNOME bug tracker for about 12 years or so now and I assume this will never be fixed properly, so perhaps there is a work around I can do?






bash gnome windows locale







share|improve this question













One of the most infuriating things that causes me much frustration when I am using Linux is the completely assinine way that files get sorted when sorting by name. This is compounded by the output of ls -l producing a different sort order than, say, Nautilus.



Is there a simple way to get Windows-like collation in Linux so I can stop beating my head against the wall?



Symbols > Numbers > Letters (modified letters such as o-umlaut just count as o)



This has been an open issue on the GNOME bug tracker for about 12 years or so now and I assume this will never be fixed properly, so perhaps there is a work around I can do?






bash gnome windows locale




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    Sounds like you want the C locale rather then a language/country specific one.
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 22:40










  • I've looked into that but from what I've read, both C and POSIX locales aren't quite right. Perhaps I misread?
    – Karai17
    Sep 7 at 23:07










  • Oh ok. Out of interest which is "wrong": Nautilus or ls?
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 23:09







  • 1




    After doing some more digging, I found that WINE has implemented this sort order for their purposes here: github.com/aidfarh/wine/blob/master/dlls/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:56






  • 1




    Also here is microsoft's definition of their own function: docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/desktop/api/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:59












  • 2




    Sounds like you want the C locale rather then a language/country specific one.
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 22:40










  • I've looked into that but from what I've read, both C and POSIX locales aren't quite right. Perhaps I misread?
    – Karai17
    Sep 7 at 23:07










  • Oh ok. Out of interest which is "wrong": Nautilus or ls?
    – roaima
    Sep 7 at 23:09







  • 1




    After doing some more digging, I found that WINE has implemented this sort order for their purposes here: github.com/aidfarh/wine/blob/master/dlls/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:56






  • 1




    Also here is microsoft's definition of their own function: docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/desktop/api/shlwapi/…
    – Karai17
    Sep 8 at 2:59







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Sounds like you want the C locale rather then a language/country specific one.
– roaima
Sep 7 at 22:40




Sounds like you want the C locale rather then a language/country specific one.
– roaima
Sep 7 at 22:40












I've looked into that but from what I've read, both C and POSIX locales aren't quite right. Perhaps I misread?
– Karai17
Sep 7 at 23:07




I've looked into that but from what I've read, both C and POSIX locales aren't quite right. Perhaps I misread?
– Karai17
Sep 7 at 23:07












Oh ok. Out of interest which is "wrong": Nautilus or ls?
– roaima
Sep 7 at 23:09





Oh ok. Out of interest which is "wrong": Nautilus or ls?
– roaima
Sep 7 at 23:09





1




1




After doing some more digging, I found that WINE has implemented this sort order for their purposes here: github.com/aidfarh/wine/blob/master/dlls/shlwapi/…
– Karai17
Sep 8 at 2:56




After doing some more digging, I found that WINE has implemented this sort order for their purposes here: github.com/aidfarh/wine/blob/master/dlls/shlwapi/…
– Karai17
Sep 8 at 2:56




1




1




Also here is microsoft's definition of their own function: docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/desktop/api/shlwapi/…
– Karai17
Sep 8 at 2:59




Also here is microsoft's definition of their own function: docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/desktop/api/shlwapi/…
– Karai17
Sep 8 at 2:59















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