How does the “su” command work internally?

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I am tying to understand how the su command work internally.



Say that I did the following:



su someUser


The following is what I think will happen:




  • su will ask me for the password of someUser.


  • su will hash the entered password.


  • su will compare the entered password with the password in the
    /etc/shadow file, and if the two passwords are the same, then su will
    launch the default shell for someUser (which exist in
    /etc/passwd), and su will set the user IDs and group IDs of the launched shell to the user IDs and group IDs of someUser.

Note that su has the setuid bit set, so su will run with root privileges.



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  • Yes, but su doesn't directly access /etc/shadow, it uses pam for this. ( /etc/pam.d/su )
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    Dec 6 '17 at 1:08














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I am tying to understand how the su command work internally.



Say that I did the following:



su someUser


The following is what I think will happen:




  • su will ask me for the password of someUser.


  • su will hash the entered password.


  • su will compare the entered password with the password in the
    /etc/shadow file, and if the two passwords are the same, then su will
    launch the default shell for someUser (which exist in
    /etc/passwd), and su will set the user IDs and group IDs of the launched shell to the user IDs and group IDs of someUser.

Note that su has the setuid bit set, so su will run with root privileges.



Am I correct?




linux process su




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  • Yes, but su doesn't directly access /etc/shadow, it uses pam for this. ( /etc/pam.d/su )
    – Ipor Sircer
    Dec 6 '17 at 1:08












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I am tying to understand how the su command work internally.



Say that I did the following:



su someUser


The following is what I think will happen:




  • su will ask me for the password of someUser.


  • su will hash the entered password.


  • su will compare the entered password with the password in the
    /etc/shadow file, and if the two passwords are the same, then su will
    launch the default shell for someUser (which exist in
    /etc/passwd), and su will set the user IDs and group IDs of the launched shell to the user IDs and group IDs of someUser.

Note that su has the setuid bit set, so su will run with root privileges.



Am I correct?




linux process su




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I am tying to understand how the su command work internally.



Say that I did the following:



su someUser


The following is what I think will happen:




  • su will ask me for the password of someUser.


  • su will hash the entered password.


  • su will compare the entered password with the password in the
    /etc/shadow file, and if the two passwords are the same, then su will
    launch the default shell for someUser (which exist in
    /etc/passwd), and su will set the user IDs and group IDs of the launched shell to the user IDs and group IDs of someUser.

Note that su has the setuid bit set, so su will run with root privileges.



Am I correct?





linux process su





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  • Yes, but su doesn't directly access /etc/shadow, it uses pam for this. ( /etc/pam.d/su )
    – Ipor Sircer
    Dec 6 '17 at 1:08
















  • Yes, but su doesn't directly access /etc/shadow, it uses pam for this. ( /etc/pam.d/su )
    – Ipor Sircer
    Dec 6 '17 at 1:08















Yes, but su doesn't directly access /etc/shadow, it uses pam for this. ( /etc/pam.d/su )
– Ipor Sircer
Dec 6 '17 at 1:08




Yes, but su doesn't directly access /etc/shadow, it uses pam for this. ( /etc/pam.d/su )
– Ipor Sircer
Dec 6 '17 at 1:08










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su doesn't do any password stuff in most Linux distros. Instead it delegates authn/authz to PAM and only handles the user-changing.






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  • Yup.
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su doesn't do any password stuff in most Linux distros. Instead it delegates authn/authz to PAM and only handles the user-changing.






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su doesn't do any password stuff in most Linux distros. Instead it delegates authn/authz to PAM and only handles the user-changing.






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su doesn't do any password stuff in most Linux distros. Instead it delegates authn/authz to PAM and only handles the user-changing.






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