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Is it allowed to own a pet that was previous castrated by a non-jew without consent? Practical exemple: a well-behaved female dog adopted by a Jewish family after the castration (and adopted regardless the castration)






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          Rambam Hilchot Issurei Biah 16:13




          אָסוּר לוֹמַר לְעַכּוּ''ם לְסָרֵס בְּהֵמָה שֶׁלָּנוּ. וְאִם לְקָחָהּ הוּא מֵעַצְמוֹ וְסֵרְסָהּ מֻתָּר. וְאִם הֶעֱרִים יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּדָבָר זֶה קוֹנְסִין אוֹתוֹ וּמוֹכְרָהּ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר



          It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to castrate an animal of ours. But if he [the non-Jew] took it himself and castrated it, it [i.e keeping the animal] is permitted. But if the Jew connived in the matter, we fine him [by ruling that] he sell it to another Jew.




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          Rambam Hilchot Issurei Biah 16:13




          אָסוּר לוֹמַר לְעַכּוּ''ם לְסָרֵס בְּהֵמָה שֶׁלָּנוּ. וְאִם לְקָחָהּ הוּא מֵעַצְמוֹ וְסֵרְסָהּ מֻתָּר. וְאִם הֶעֱרִים יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּדָבָר זֶה קוֹנְסִין אוֹתוֹ וּמוֹכְרָהּ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר



          It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to castrate an animal of ours. But if he [the non-Jew] took it himself and castrated it, it [i.e keeping the animal] is permitted. But if the Jew connived in the matter, we fine him [by ruling that] he sell it to another Jew.




          (Translation/elucidation is mine.)






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          • Very nice; + 1.
            – msh210♦
            Aug 21 at 19:07










          • This is not how we hold lema'ase
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 19:20






          • 1




            @Noach Care to amplify? (And who is we? Yemenites?)
            – Joel K
            Aug 21 at 19:44











          • @JoelK most Orthodox communities in the US
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 23:42










          • @Noach So how do “we” hold lema’ase?
            – Joel K
            Aug 22 at 3:42














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          Rambam Hilchot Issurei Biah 16:13




          אָסוּר לוֹמַר לְעַכּוּ''ם לְסָרֵס בְּהֵמָה שֶׁלָּנוּ. וְאִם לְקָחָהּ הוּא מֵעַצְמוֹ וְסֵרְסָהּ מֻתָּר. וְאִם הֶעֱרִים יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּדָבָר זֶה קוֹנְסִין אוֹתוֹ וּמוֹכְרָהּ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר



          It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to castrate an animal of ours. But if he [the non-Jew] took it himself and castrated it, it [i.e keeping the animal] is permitted. But if the Jew connived in the matter, we fine him [by ruling that] he sell it to another Jew.




          (Translation/elucidation is mine.)






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          • Very nice; + 1.
            – msh210♦
            Aug 21 at 19:07










          • This is not how we hold lema'ase
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 19:20






          • 1




            @Noach Care to amplify? (And who is we? Yemenites?)
            – Joel K
            Aug 21 at 19:44











          • @JoelK most Orthodox communities in the US
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 23:42










          • @Noach So how do “we” hold lema’ase?
            – Joel K
            Aug 22 at 3:42












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          Rambam Hilchot Issurei Biah 16:13




          אָסוּר לוֹמַר לְעַכּוּ''ם לְסָרֵס בְּהֵמָה שֶׁלָּנוּ. וְאִם לְקָחָהּ הוּא מֵעַצְמוֹ וְסֵרְסָהּ מֻתָּר. וְאִם הֶעֱרִים יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּדָבָר זֶה קוֹנְסִין אוֹתוֹ וּמוֹכְרָהּ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר



          It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to castrate an animal of ours. But if he [the non-Jew] took it himself and castrated it, it [i.e keeping the animal] is permitted. But if the Jew connived in the matter, we fine him [by ruling that] he sell it to another Jew.




          (Translation/elucidation is mine.)






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          Rambam Hilchot Issurei Biah 16:13




          אָסוּר לוֹמַר לְעַכּוּ''ם לְסָרֵס בְּהֵמָה שֶׁלָּנוּ. וְאִם לְקָחָהּ הוּא מֵעַצְמוֹ וְסֵרְסָהּ מֻתָּר. וְאִם הֶעֱרִים יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּדָבָר זֶה קוֹנְסִין אוֹתוֹ וּמוֹכְרָהּ לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר



          It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to castrate an animal of ours. But if he [the non-Jew] took it himself and castrated it, it [i.e keeping the animal] is permitted. But if the Jew connived in the matter, we fine him [by ruling that] he sell it to another Jew.




          (Translation/elucidation is mine.)







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          • Very nice; + 1.
            – msh210♦
            Aug 21 at 19:07










          • This is not how we hold lema'ase
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 19:20






          • 1




            @Noach Care to amplify? (And who is we? Yemenites?)
            – Joel K
            Aug 21 at 19:44











          • @JoelK most Orthodox communities in the US
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 23:42










          • @Noach So how do “we” hold lema’ase?
            – Joel K
            Aug 22 at 3:42
















          • Very nice; + 1.
            – msh210♦
            Aug 21 at 19:07










          • This is not how we hold lema'ase
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 19:20






          • 1




            @Noach Care to amplify? (And who is we? Yemenites?)
            – Joel K
            Aug 21 at 19:44











          • @JoelK most Orthodox communities in the US
            – Noach MiFrankfurt
            Aug 21 at 23:42










          • @Noach So how do “we” hold lema’ase?
            – Joel K
            Aug 22 at 3:42















          Very nice; + 1.
          – msh210♦
          Aug 21 at 19:07




          Very nice; + 1.
          – msh210♦
          Aug 21 at 19:07












          This is not how we hold lema'ase
          – Noach MiFrankfurt
          Aug 21 at 19:20




          This is not how we hold lema'ase
          – Noach MiFrankfurt
          Aug 21 at 19:20




          1




          1




          @Noach Care to amplify? (And who is we? Yemenites?)
          – Joel K
          Aug 21 at 19:44





          @Noach Care to amplify? (And who is we? Yemenites?)
          – Joel K
          Aug 21 at 19:44













          @JoelK most Orthodox communities in the US
          – Noach MiFrankfurt
          Aug 21 at 23:42




          @JoelK most Orthodox communities in the US
          – Noach MiFrankfurt
          Aug 21 at 23:42












          @Noach So how do “we” hold lema’ase?
          – Joel K
          Aug 22 at 3:42




          @Noach So how do “we” hold lema’ase?
          – Joel K
          Aug 22 at 3:42


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