Upgrading Solaris zone to solaris 11 [on hold]

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We have solaris zones running in Sparc T5 server



Currently a solaris zone run Solaris 10 OS version.



$uname -a
SunOS zone01 5.10 Generic_150400-30 sun4v sparc sun4v


Going further, we would like this zone to run Solaris 11 OS version, because Solaris 10 OS is going End of Support.




Critical goal is: We do not want to build new solaris zones(Solaris OS 11) at any cost. We want existing zones to get upgraded to Solaris 11. Why do we use these zones? Because we have a business application running on it, which is the actual usage scenario.



My understanding for upgrade of zone is, shut down all solaris zones and upgrade Sparc T5 server(not solaris zone) from solaris 10 to solaris 11. Start solaris zones after upgrade of Sparc T5 server.



What is the recommended approach to upgrade an OS of an existing solaris zone?



Edit: I read that: "We can simply detach a Zone from one Global Zone (OS) and attach it to another Global Zone on another machine along with the application."
Can't a solaris 10 zone be migrated from version 10 global zone to version 11 global zone? And then upgrade the migrated zone...







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  • You should have testing environments and test the procedure when in doubt. Just a thought for an improvment.
    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Aug 3 at 18:52










  • Last I knew, there wasn't a migration-upgrade from 10 to 11 -- it was a reinstall. Has that changed?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Aug 3 at 18:56
















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We have solaris zones running in Sparc T5 server



Currently a solaris zone run Solaris 10 OS version.



$uname -a
SunOS zone01 5.10 Generic_150400-30 sun4v sparc sun4v


Going further, we would like this zone to run Solaris 11 OS version, because Solaris 10 OS is going End of Support.




Critical goal is: We do not want to build new solaris zones(Solaris OS 11) at any cost. We want existing zones to get upgraded to Solaris 11. Why do we use these zones? Because we have a business application running on it, which is the actual usage scenario.



My understanding for upgrade of zone is, shut down all solaris zones and upgrade Sparc T5 server(not solaris zone) from solaris 10 to solaris 11. Start solaris zones after upgrade of Sparc T5 server.



What is the recommended approach to upgrade an OS of an existing solaris zone?



Edit: I read that: "We can simply detach a Zone from one Global Zone (OS) and attach it to another Global Zone on another machine along with the application."
Can't a solaris 10 zone be migrated from version 10 global zone to version 11 global zone? And then upgrade the migrated zone...







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  • You should have testing environments and test the procedure when in doubt. Just a thought for an improvment.
    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Aug 3 at 18:52










  • Last I knew, there wasn't a migration-upgrade from 10 to 11 -- it was a reinstall. Has that changed?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Aug 3 at 18:56












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We have solaris zones running in Sparc T5 server



Currently a solaris zone run Solaris 10 OS version.



$uname -a
SunOS zone01 5.10 Generic_150400-30 sun4v sparc sun4v


Going further, we would like this zone to run Solaris 11 OS version, because Solaris 10 OS is going End of Support.




Critical goal is: We do not want to build new solaris zones(Solaris OS 11) at any cost. We want existing zones to get upgraded to Solaris 11. Why do we use these zones? Because we have a business application running on it, which is the actual usage scenario.



My understanding for upgrade of zone is, shut down all solaris zones and upgrade Sparc T5 server(not solaris zone) from solaris 10 to solaris 11. Start solaris zones after upgrade of Sparc T5 server.



What is the recommended approach to upgrade an OS of an existing solaris zone?



Edit: I read that: "We can simply detach a Zone from one Global Zone (OS) and attach it to another Global Zone on another machine along with the application."
Can't a solaris 10 zone be migrated from version 10 global zone to version 11 global zone? And then upgrade the migrated zone...







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We have solaris zones running in Sparc T5 server



Currently a solaris zone run Solaris 10 OS version.



$uname -a
SunOS zone01 5.10 Generic_150400-30 sun4v sparc sun4v


Going further, we would like this zone to run Solaris 11 OS version, because Solaris 10 OS is going End of Support.




Critical goal is: We do not want to build new solaris zones(Solaris OS 11) at any cost. We want existing zones to get upgraded to Solaris 11. Why do we use these zones? Because we have a business application running on it, which is the actual usage scenario.



My understanding for upgrade of zone is, shut down all solaris zones and upgrade Sparc T5 server(not solaris zone) from solaris 10 to solaris 11. Start solaris zones after upgrade of Sparc T5 server.



What is the recommended approach to upgrade an OS of an existing solaris zone?



Edit: I read that: "We can simply detach a Zone from one Global Zone (OS) and attach it to another Global Zone on another machine along with the application."
Can't a solaris 10 zone be migrated from version 10 global zone to version 11 global zone? And then upgrade the migrated zone...









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  • You should have testing environments and test the procedure when in doubt. Just a thought for an improvment.
    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Aug 3 at 18:52










  • Last I knew, there wasn't a migration-upgrade from 10 to 11 -- it was a reinstall. Has that changed?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Aug 3 at 18:56
















  • You should have testing environments and test the procedure when in doubt. Just a thought for an improvment.
    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Aug 3 at 18:52










  • Last I knew, there wasn't a migration-upgrade from 10 to 11 -- it was a reinstall. Has that changed?
    – Jeff Schaller
    Aug 3 at 18:56















You should have testing environments and test the procedure when in doubt. Just a thought for an improvment.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Aug 3 at 18:52




You should have testing environments and test the procedure when in doubt. Just a thought for an improvment.
– Rui F Ribeiro
Aug 3 at 18:52












Last I knew, there wasn't a migration-upgrade from 10 to 11 -- it was a reinstall. Has that changed?
– Jeff Schaller
Aug 3 at 18:56




Last I knew, there wasn't a migration-upgrade from 10 to 11 -- it was a reinstall. Has that changed?
– Jeff Schaller
Aug 3 at 18:56










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You could not have Solaris 11 zone on Solaris 10 OS.
Upgrade from Solaris 10 to Solaris 11 is impossible. The only way for you is to reinstall all your applications in fresh installed Solaris 11 zones on fresh installed Solaris 11 OS.



The best way is to have the second server, where you could reinstall your applications one by one, having rollback possibility.



If you have not other server, you may install new copy of Solaris 11 in Logical Domain (LDOM) on the same server, then implement s11 (or branded s10) zones in this domain. This way requires good solaris-administration skills and some free resources on current server (cpu, memory, storage). This job is interesting ;), you will also have possibility for rollback. After such one-by-one application migration you will have to replace (reinstall) your current primary domain with Solaris 10 to Solaris 11. By this way you will transform your buisness apps in zones running in LDOM with future possibility for online migration to other T5 server.






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  • Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 21:52










  • No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago










  • update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago











  • Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
    – overexchange
    2 days ago










  • No, upgrade is impossible.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago

















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You cannot run a supported solaris 11 zone on a machine where the global (root) zone is solaris 10. You can run a branded solaris 10 zone on a machine where the global zone is solaris 11. This does not help but it answers your question: No you cannot do it.






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    Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 19:51










  • root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
    – Sasha Golikov
    Aug 3 at 20:21











  • @SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 22:47











  • No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago

















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2 Answers
2






active

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active

oldest

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active

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3
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You could not have Solaris 11 zone on Solaris 10 OS.
Upgrade from Solaris 10 to Solaris 11 is impossible. The only way for you is to reinstall all your applications in fresh installed Solaris 11 zones on fresh installed Solaris 11 OS.



The best way is to have the second server, where you could reinstall your applications one by one, having rollback possibility.



If you have not other server, you may install new copy of Solaris 11 in Logical Domain (LDOM) on the same server, then implement s11 (or branded s10) zones in this domain. This way requires good solaris-administration skills and some free resources on current server (cpu, memory, storage). This job is interesting ;), you will also have possibility for rollback. After such one-by-one application migration you will have to replace (reinstall) your current primary domain with Solaris 10 to Solaris 11. By this way you will transform your buisness apps in zones running in LDOM with future possibility for online migration to other T5 server.






share|improve this answer





















  • Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 21:52










  • No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago










  • update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago











  • Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
    – overexchange
    2 days ago










  • No, upgrade is impossible.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago














up vote
3
down vote













You could not have Solaris 11 zone on Solaris 10 OS.
Upgrade from Solaris 10 to Solaris 11 is impossible. The only way for you is to reinstall all your applications in fresh installed Solaris 11 zones on fresh installed Solaris 11 OS.



The best way is to have the second server, where you could reinstall your applications one by one, having rollback possibility.



If you have not other server, you may install new copy of Solaris 11 in Logical Domain (LDOM) on the same server, then implement s11 (or branded s10) zones in this domain. This way requires good solaris-administration skills and some free resources on current server (cpu, memory, storage). This job is interesting ;), you will also have possibility for rollback. After such one-by-one application migration you will have to replace (reinstall) your current primary domain with Solaris 10 to Solaris 11. By this way you will transform your buisness apps in zones running in LDOM with future possibility for online migration to other T5 server.






share|improve this answer





















  • Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 21:52










  • No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago










  • update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago











  • Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
    – overexchange
    2 days ago










  • No, upgrade is impossible.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago












up vote
3
down vote










up vote
3
down vote









You could not have Solaris 11 zone on Solaris 10 OS.
Upgrade from Solaris 10 to Solaris 11 is impossible. The only way for you is to reinstall all your applications in fresh installed Solaris 11 zones on fresh installed Solaris 11 OS.



The best way is to have the second server, where you could reinstall your applications one by one, having rollback possibility.



If you have not other server, you may install new copy of Solaris 11 in Logical Domain (LDOM) on the same server, then implement s11 (or branded s10) zones in this domain. This way requires good solaris-administration skills and some free resources on current server (cpu, memory, storage). This job is interesting ;), you will also have possibility for rollback. After such one-by-one application migration you will have to replace (reinstall) your current primary domain with Solaris 10 to Solaris 11. By this way you will transform your buisness apps in zones running in LDOM with future possibility for online migration to other T5 server.






share|improve this answer













You could not have Solaris 11 zone on Solaris 10 OS.
Upgrade from Solaris 10 to Solaris 11 is impossible. The only way for you is to reinstall all your applications in fresh installed Solaris 11 zones on fresh installed Solaris 11 OS.



The best way is to have the second server, where you could reinstall your applications one by one, having rollback possibility.



If you have not other server, you may install new copy of Solaris 11 in Logical Domain (LDOM) on the same server, then implement s11 (or branded s10) zones in this domain. This way requires good solaris-administration skills and some free resources on current server (cpu, memory, storage). This job is interesting ;), you will also have possibility for rollback. After such one-by-one application migration you will have to replace (reinstall) your current primary domain with Solaris 10 to Solaris 11. By this way you will transform your buisness apps in zones running in LDOM with future possibility for online migration to other T5 server.







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  • Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 21:52










  • No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago










  • update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago











  • Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
    – overexchange
    2 days ago










  • No, upgrade is impossible.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago
















  • Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 21:52










  • No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago










  • update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago











  • Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
    – overexchange
    2 days ago










  • No, upgrade is impossible.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago















Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
– overexchange
Aug 3 at 21:52




Application is cluster aware... two zones per cluster running in production. Without reinstall... can we migrate application from one zone to other?
– overexchange
Aug 3 at 21:52












No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago




No, you can not. Try to setup new cluster in new zones. Also I think, that you will need to update cluster version to the lastest, because cluster soft usually have deep integration with OS and may not work properly in Solaris 11.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago












update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago





update. You could archive your Solaris 10 zone, then attach this to newly installed Solaris 11 OS. This is called branded zone. This zone will work without own kernel, solaris 11 will emulate solaris10 kernel interface. But it is impossible to upgrade branded solaris10 zone to native solaris11 zone.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago













Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
– overexchange
2 days ago




Ok. Can't we shut down all zones and upgrade OS of sparc T5 server from solaris 10 to solaris 11 and then start all zones expecting they work as Solaris 11 zones?
– overexchange
2 days ago












No, upgrade is impossible.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago




No, upgrade is impossible.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago












up vote
2
down vote













You cannot run a supported solaris 11 zone on a machine where the global (root) zone is solaris 10. You can run a branded solaris 10 zone on a machine where the global zone is solaris 11. This does not help but it answers your question: No you cannot do it.






share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 19:51










  • root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
    – Sasha Golikov
    Aug 3 at 20:21











  • @SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 22:47











  • No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago














up vote
2
down vote













You cannot run a supported solaris 11 zone on a machine where the global (root) zone is solaris 10. You can run a branded solaris 10 zone on a machine where the global zone is solaris 11. This does not help but it answers your question: No you cannot do it.






share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 19:51










  • root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
    – Sasha Golikov
    Aug 3 at 20:21











  • @SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 22:47











  • No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago












up vote
2
down vote










up vote
2
down vote









You cannot run a supported solaris 11 zone on a machine where the global (root) zone is solaris 10. You can run a branded solaris 10 zone on a machine where the global zone is solaris 11. This does not help but it answers your question: No you cannot do it.






share|improve this answer













You cannot run a supported solaris 11 zone on a machine where the global (root) zone is solaris 10. You can run a branded solaris 10 zone on a machine where the global zone is solaris 11. This does not help but it answers your question: No you cannot do it.







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    Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 19:51










  • root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
    – Sasha Golikov
    Aug 3 at 20:21











  • @SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 22:47











  • No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago












  • 1




    Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 19:51










  • root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
    – Sasha Golikov
    Aug 3 at 20:21











  • @SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
    – overexchange
    Aug 3 at 22:47











  • No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
    – Sasha Golikov
    2 days ago







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Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
– overexchange
Aug 3 at 19:51




Root zone, you mean kernel of sparc t5 server?
– overexchange
Aug 3 at 19:51












root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
– Sasha Golikov
Aug 3 at 20:21





root=global zone. Global zone owns all domain(or server) resources, have kernel, the other name is OS(in my answer)
– Sasha Golikov
Aug 3 at 20:21













@SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
– overexchange
Aug 3 at 22:47





@SashaGolikov Is solaris global zone not similar to ESX hypervisor?
– overexchange
Aug 3 at 22:47













No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago




No, Solaris global zone is not simular ESXi.
– Sasha Golikov
2 days ago


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