Is being angry a prerequisite for sparring?
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My sensei says while sparring you should express your inner tiger. My understanding is that I should be savage and angry. But I don't like being angry! Is it possible to be good at sparring without anger impulses?
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My sensei says while sparring you should express your inner tiger. My understanding is that I should be savage and angry. But I don't like being angry! Is it possible to be good at sparring without anger impulses?
tae-kwon-do sparring mentality
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Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?
– Uwe Keim
Jan 25 at 6:53
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<Pedantic>It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD</Pedantic>. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!
– Mike P
Jan 25 at 10:43
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Tigers are fierce, but they are not angry when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner.
– Larry
Jan 25 at 18:33
Did they specifically mention anger? "Express your inner tiger" doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery.
– NotThatGuy
Jan 25 at 20:49
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My sensei says while sparring you should express your inner tiger. My understanding is that I should be savage and angry. But I don't like being angry! Is it possible to be good at sparring without anger impulses?
tae-kwon-do sparring mentality
My sensei says while sparring you should express your inner tiger. My understanding is that I should be savage and angry. But I don't like being angry! Is it possible to be good at sparring without anger impulses?
tae-kwon-do sparring mentality
tae-kwon-do sparring mentality
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Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?
– Uwe Keim
Jan 25 at 6:53
1
<Pedantic>It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD</Pedantic>. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!
– Mike P
Jan 25 at 10:43
2
Tigers are fierce, but they are not angry when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner.
– Larry
Jan 25 at 18:33
Did they specifically mention anger? "Express your inner tiger" doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery.
– NotThatGuy
Jan 25 at 20:49
add a comment |
1
Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?
– Uwe Keim
Jan 25 at 6:53
1
<Pedantic>It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD</Pedantic>. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!
– Mike P
Jan 25 at 10:43
2
Tigers are fierce, but they are not angry when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner.
– Larry
Jan 25 at 18:33
Did they specifically mention anger? "Express your inner tiger" doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery.
– NotThatGuy
Jan 25 at 20:49
1
1
Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?
– Uwe Keim
Jan 25 at 6:53
Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?
– Uwe Keim
Jan 25 at 6:53
1
1
<Pedantic>It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD</Pedantic>. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!
– Mike P
Jan 25 at 10:43
<Pedantic>It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD</Pedantic>. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!
– Mike P
Jan 25 at 10:43
2
2
Tigers are fierce, but they are not angry when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner.
– Larry
Jan 25 at 18:33
Tigers are fierce, but they are not angry when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner.
– Larry
Jan 25 at 18:33
Did they specifically mention anger? "Express your inner tiger" doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery.
– NotThatGuy
Jan 25 at 20:49
Did they specifically mention anger? "Express your inner tiger" doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery.
– NotThatGuy
Jan 25 at 20:49
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Emotions in general are detrimental to your sparring.
Usually when I have seen this said to a student it is not because we want you to get angry, but that you are sparring as if you are afraid. If you are afraid of striking your opponent you become SLOW and hesitant. Remember here that you should only ever spar willingly (never spar if you don't want to) and also that your partner is in the same position.
Hitting your partner (or at least trying in earnest to do so) is actually beneficial to them, if you don't hit them (by reacting calmly to the openings they present) then they will have a false sense of security/confidence going into other bouts and wind up getting hit more.
Sparring 'Angry' is usually an attempt by your opponent to intimidate you into losing confidence and not trying hard. Many people will try this tactic, learn to deal with it and keep your calm as they are using that instead of skill to try to win. Once you have dealt with people sparring this way a couple of times you will learn to cherish new opponents that try it as they are easy to pick apart and usually don't have any other tactic to fall back on.
As @Kristina Lex says - reacting to the situation and putting a hand or foot to any target that presents itself is key - and much easier if you aren't angry/afraid/flustered - leave emotions at the door of the Dojang or on the pads/bags.
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Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
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What works for your sensei might not work from you. He is teaching you, what had worked for him. For some, they use anger for the aggressiveness it brings. Anger dominates certain opponents. And in the case of draw, the more aggressive fighter that attacks more (whether contact or not) is usually declared the winner.
But anger does not work for everyone. It results in your judgment being clouded, tunnel vision, rash decisions leading to mistakes, disqualifications due to fouls, not to mention raising your blood pressure and heart rate for the wrong reasons.
I prefer teaching students to fight with a cool head, but maintaining an 'afraid-to-lose' mentality. As in, never let the other guy score more points than you. And reactive fighting. Seeing an opening results in automatic launching of a kick to that area.
I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
2
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
add a comment |
Anger is definitely not a prerequisite for sparring, specially since angry people tend to neglect their technique, but I think that you might have misinterpreted what your sensei told you.
A tiger hunts with everything it has, full concentration, full physical force and deadly precision, since they hunt completely alone.
Keeping this in mind and the fact that you yourself said that you don't like being angry, he might have ment that you should try to be less timid in sparring and go for it with more "power".
It's about focus, not anger.
add a comment |
While tigers can be considered savage in some sense, as in "uncivilized" or "fierce", they certainly don't get angry. When they are attacking, they have a goal in mind ("kill this prey to satisfy my hunger") and they use their instinct and physical might to reach that goal, there is no emotion. When they are defending themselves, they again use their instinct and physical abilities to save their lives, whether it's fighting back or running away.
I think that is what your sensei may have meant.
add a comment |
No, anger is not a prerequisite for sparring.
There is more than one school of thought for what your mental state should be to spar/fight. This list is not meant to be exhaustive:
- Fight without emotion. Buddhist or Daoist training for a state where thought is stopped (mushin) also means that your emotions do not disturb your mental state and create thoughts. You can act decisively and without hesitation if you are mentally unencumbered.
- Harness emotion for strength. This sounds like what your instructor is suggesting. Many athletes use music to prime themselves before competition to improve performance. A snarling animal can be intimidating and cause an opponent to think twice before engaging.
- Crazy. Examples are Viking berserkers or Moro rebels in the Philippines. This mental state is for killing without worrying about getting killed. The US Army switched to using higher caliber (larger) bullets with more "stopping power" to fight the Moro rebels because they would keep fighting even after being shot.
There is a range of possibilities.
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Emotions in general are detrimental to your sparring.
Usually when I have seen this said to a student it is not because we want you to get angry, but that you are sparring as if you are afraid. If you are afraid of striking your opponent you become SLOW and hesitant. Remember here that you should only ever spar willingly (never spar if you don't want to) and also that your partner is in the same position.
Hitting your partner (or at least trying in earnest to do so) is actually beneficial to them, if you don't hit them (by reacting calmly to the openings they present) then they will have a false sense of security/confidence going into other bouts and wind up getting hit more.
Sparring 'Angry' is usually an attempt by your opponent to intimidate you into losing confidence and not trying hard. Many people will try this tactic, learn to deal with it and keep your calm as they are using that instead of skill to try to win. Once you have dealt with people sparring this way a couple of times you will learn to cherish new opponents that try it as they are easy to pick apart and usually don't have any other tactic to fall back on.
As @Kristina Lex says - reacting to the situation and putting a hand or foot to any target that presents itself is key - and much easier if you aren't angry/afraid/flustered - leave emotions at the door of the Dojang or on the pads/bags.
1
Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
add a comment |
Emotions in general are detrimental to your sparring.
Usually when I have seen this said to a student it is not because we want you to get angry, but that you are sparring as if you are afraid. If you are afraid of striking your opponent you become SLOW and hesitant. Remember here that you should only ever spar willingly (never spar if you don't want to) and also that your partner is in the same position.
Hitting your partner (or at least trying in earnest to do so) is actually beneficial to them, if you don't hit them (by reacting calmly to the openings they present) then they will have a false sense of security/confidence going into other bouts and wind up getting hit more.
Sparring 'Angry' is usually an attempt by your opponent to intimidate you into losing confidence and not trying hard. Many people will try this tactic, learn to deal with it and keep your calm as they are using that instead of skill to try to win. Once you have dealt with people sparring this way a couple of times you will learn to cherish new opponents that try it as they are easy to pick apart and usually don't have any other tactic to fall back on.
As @Kristina Lex says - reacting to the situation and putting a hand or foot to any target that presents itself is key - and much easier if you aren't angry/afraid/flustered - leave emotions at the door of the Dojang or on the pads/bags.
1
Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
add a comment |
Emotions in general are detrimental to your sparring.
Usually when I have seen this said to a student it is not because we want you to get angry, but that you are sparring as if you are afraid. If you are afraid of striking your opponent you become SLOW and hesitant. Remember here that you should only ever spar willingly (never spar if you don't want to) and also that your partner is in the same position.
Hitting your partner (or at least trying in earnest to do so) is actually beneficial to them, if you don't hit them (by reacting calmly to the openings they present) then they will have a false sense of security/confidence going into other bouts and wind up getting hit more.
Sparring 'Angry' is usually an attempt by your opponent to intimidate you into losing confidence and not trying hard. Many people will try this tactic, learn to deal with it and keep your calm as they are using that instead of skill to try to win. Once you have dealt with people sparring this way a couple of times you will learn to cherish new opponents that try it as they are easy to pick apart and usually don't have any other tactic to fall back on.
As @Kristina Lex says - reacting to the situation and putting a hand or foot to any target that presents itself is key - and much easier if you aren't angry/afraid/flustered - leave emotions at the door of the Dojang or on the pads/bags.
Emotions in general are detrimental to your sparring.
Usually when I have seen this said to a student it is not because we want you to get angry, but that you are sparring as if you are afraid. If you are afraid of striking your opponent you become SLOW and hesitant. Remember here that you should only ever spar willingly (never spar if you don't want to) and also that your partner is in the same position.
Hitting your partner (or at least trying in earnest to do so) is actually beneficial to them, if you don't hit them (by reacting calmly to the openings they present) then they will have a false sense of security/confidence going into other bouts and wind up getting hit more.
Sparring 'Angry' is usually an attempt by your opponent to intimidate you into losing confidence and not trying hard. Many people will try this tactic, learn to deal with it and keep your calm as they are using that instead of skill to try to win. Once you have dealt with people sparring this way a couple of times you will learn to cherish new opponents that try it as they are easy to pick apart and usually don't have any other tactic to fall back on.
As @Kristina Lex says - reacting to the situation and putting a hand or foot to any target that presents itself is key - and much easier if you aren't angry/afraid/flustered - leave emotions at the door of the Dojang or on the pads/bags.
edited Jan 28 at 7:48
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answered Jan 24 at 9:19
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Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
add a comment |
1
Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
1
1
Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent. Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!
– Mason Wheeler
Jan 25 at 15:39
add a comment |
What works for your sensei might not work from you. He is teaching you, what had worked for him. For some, they use anger for the aggressiveness it brings. Anger dominates certain opponents. And in the case of draw, the more aggressive fighter that attacks more (whether contact or not) is usually declared the winner.
But anger does not work for everyone. It results in your judgment being clouded, tunnel vision, rash decisions leading to mistakes, disqualifications due to fouls, not to mention raising your blood pressure and heart rate for the wrong reasons.
I prefer teaching students to fight with a cool head, but maintaining an 'afraid-to-lose' mentality. As in, never let the other guy score more points than you. And reactive fighting. Seeing an opening results in automatic launching of a kick to that area.
I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
2
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
add a comment |
What works for your sensei might not work from you. He is teaching you, what had worked for him. For some, they use anger for the aggressiveness it brings. Anger dominates certain opponents. And in the case of draw, the more aggressive fighter that attacks more (whether contact or not) is usually declared the winner.
But anger does not work for everyone. It results in your judgment being clouded, tunnel vision, rash decisions leading to mistakes, disqualifications due to fouls, not to mention raising your blood pressure and heart rate for the wrong reasons.
I prefer teaching students to fight with a cool head, but maintaining an 'afraid-to-lose' mentality. As in, never let the other guy score more points than you. And reactive fighting. Seeing an opening results in automatic launching of a kick to that area.
I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
2
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
add a comment |
What works for your sensei might not work from you. He is teaching you, what had worked for him. For some, they use anger for the aggressiveness it brings. Anger dominates certain opponents. And in the case of draw, the more aggressive fighter that attacks more (whether contact or not) is usually declared the winner.
But anger does not work for everyone. It results in your judgment being clouded, tunnel vision, rash decisions leading to mistakes, disqualifications due to fouls, not to mention raising your blood pressure and heart rate for the wrong reasons.
I prefer teaching students to fight with a cool head, but maintaining an 'afraid-to-lose' mentality. As in, never let the other guy score more points than you. And reactive fighting. Seeing an opening results in automatic launching of a kick to that area.
What works for your sensei might not work from you. He is teaching you, what had worked for him. For some, they use anger for the aggressiveness it brings. Anger dominates certain opponents. And in the case of draw, the more aggressive fighter that attacks more (whether contact or not) is usually declared the winner.
But anger does not work for everyone. It results in your judgment being clouded, tunnel vision, rash decisions leading to mistakes, disqualifications due to fouls, not to mention raising your blood pressure and heart rate for the wrong reasons.
I prefer teaching students to fight with a cool head, but maintaining an 'afraid-to-lose' mentality. As in, never let the other guy score more points than you. And reactive fighting. Seeing an opening results in automatic launching of a kick to that area.
edited Jan 24 at 7:18
answered Jan 24 at 4:40
Kristina LexKristina Lex
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I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
2
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
add a comment |
I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
2
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)
– user3405291
Jan 24 at 10:28
2
2
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
"express your inner tiger" is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive).
– Daniel Reis
Jan 25 at 9:55
add a comment |
Anger is definitely not a prerequisite for sparring, specially since angry people tend to neglect their technique, but I think that you might have misinterpreted what your sensei told you.
A tiger hunts with everything it has, full concentration, full physical force and deadly precision, since they hunt completely alone.
Keeping this in mind and the fact that you yourself said that you don't like being angry, he might have ment that you should try to be less timid in sparring and go for it with more "power".
It's about focus, not anger.
add a comment |
Anger is definitely not a prerequisite for sparring, specially since angry people tend to neglect their technique, but I think that you might have misinterpreted what your sensei told you.
A tiger hunts with everything it has, full concentration, full physical force and deadly precision, since they hunt completely alone.
Keeping this in mind and the fact that you yourself said that you don't like being angry, he might have ment that you should try to be less timid in sparring and go for it with more "power".
It's about focus, not anger.
add a comment |
Anger is definitely not a prerequisite for sparring, specially since angry people tend to neglect their technique, but I think that you might have misinterpreted what your sensei told you.
A tiger hunts with everything it has, full concentration, full physical force and deadly precision, since they hunt completely alone.
Keeping this in mind and the fact that you yourself said that you don't like being angry, he might have ment that you should try to be less timid in sparring and go for it with more "power".
It's about focus, not anger.
Anger is definitely not a prerequisite for sparring, specially since angry people tend to neglect their technique, but I think that you might have misinterpreted what your sensei told you.
A tiger hunts with everything it has, full concentration, full physical force and deadly precision, since they hunt completely alone.
Keeping this in mind and the fact that you yourself said that you don't like being angry, he might have ment that you should try to be less timid in sparring and go for it with more "power".
It's about focus, not anger.
answered Jan 24 at 12:31
derNobiderNobi
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add a comment |
While tigers can be considered savage in some sense, as in "uncivilized" or "fierce", they certainly don't get angry. When they are attacking, they have a goal in mind ("kill this prey to satisfy my hunger") and they use their instinct and physical might to reach that goal, there is no emotion. When they are defending themselves, they again use their instinct and physical abilities to save their lives, whether it's fighting back or running away.
I think that is what your sensei may have meant.
add a comment |
While tigers can be considered savage in some sense, as in "uncivilized" or "fierce", they certainly don't get angry. When they are attacking, they have a goal in mind ("kill this prey to satisfy my hunger") and they use their instinct and physical might to reach that goal, there is no emotion. When they are defending themselves, they again use their instinct and physical abilities to save their lives, whether it's fighting back or running away.
I think that is what your sensei may have meant.
add a comment |
While tigers can be considered savage in some sense, as in "uncivilized" or "fierce", they certainly don't get angry. When they are attacking, they have a goal in mind ("kill this prey to satisfy my hunger") and they use their instinct and physical might to reach that goal, there is no emotion. When they are defending themselves, they again use their instinct and physical abilities to save their lives, whether it's fighting back or running away.
I think that is what your sensei may have meant.
While tigers can be considered savage in some sense, as in "uncivilized" or "fierce", they certainly don't get angry. When they are attacking, they have a goal in mind ("kill this prey to satisfy my hunger") and they use their instinct and physical might to reach that goal, there is no emotion. When they are defending themselves, they again use their instinct and physical abilities to save their lives, whether it's fighting back or running away.
I think that is what your sensei may have meant.
answered Jan 24 at 15:53
mustacciomustaccio
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add a comment |
add a comment |
No, anger is not a prerequisite for sparring.
There is more than one school of thought for what your mental state should be to spar/fight. This list is not meant to be exhaustive:
- Fight without emotion. Buddhist or Daoist training for a state where thought is stopped (mushin) also means that your emotions do not disturb your mental state and create thoughts. You can act decisively and without hesitation if you are mentally unencumbered.
- Harness emotion for strength. This sounds like what your instructor is suggesting. Many athletes use music to prime themselves before competition to improve performance. A snarling animal can be intimidating and cause an opponent to think twice before engaging.
- Crazy. Examples are Viking berserkers or Moro rebels in the Philippines. This mental state is for killing without worrying about getting killed. The US Army switched to using higher caliber (larger) bullets with more "stopping power" to fight the Moro rebels because they would keep fighting even after being shot.
There is a range of possibilities.
add a comment |
No, anger is not a prerequisite for sparring.
There is more than one school of thought for what your mental state should be to spar/fight. This list is not meant to be exhaustive:
- Fight without emotion. Buddhist or Daoist training for a state where thought is stopped (mushin) also means that your emotions do not disturb your mental state and create thoughts. You can act decisively and without hesitation if you are mentally unencumbered.
- Harness emotion for strength. This sounds like what your instructor is suggesting. Many athletes use music to prime themselves before competition to improve performance. A snarling animal can be intimidating and cause an opponent to think twice before engaging.
- Crazy. Examples are Viking berserkers or Moro rebels in the Philippines. This mental state is for killing without worrying about getting killed. The US Army switched to using higher caliber (larger) bullets with more "stopping power" to fight the Moro rebels because they would keep fighting even after being shot.
There is a range of possibilities.
add a comment |
No, anger is not a prerequisite for sparring.
There is more than one school of thought for what your mental state should be to spar/fight. This list is not meant to be exhaustive:
- Fight without emotion. Buddhist or Daoist training for a state where thought is stopped (mushin) also means that your emotions do not disturb your mental state and create thoughts. You can act decisively and without hesitation if you are mentally unencumbered.
- Harness emotion for strength. This sounds like what your instructor is suggesting. Many athletes use music to prime themselves before competition to improve performance. A snarling animal can be intimidating and cause an opponent to think twice before engaging.
- Crazy. Examples are Viking berserkers or Moro rebels in the Philippines. This mental state is for killing without worrying about getting killed. The US Army switched to using higher caliber (larger) bullets with more "stopping power" to fight the Moro rebels because they would keep fighting even after being shot.
There is a range of possibilities.
No, anger is not a prerequisite for sparring.
There is more than one school of thought for what your mental state should be to spar/fight. This list is not meant to be exhaustive:
- Fight without emotion. Buddhist or Daoist training for a state where thought is stopped (mushin) also means that your emotions do not disturb your mental state and create thoughts. You can act decisively and without hesitation if you are mentally unencumbered.
- Harness emotion for strength. This sounds like what your instructor is suggesting. Many athletes use music to prime themselves before competition to improve performance. A snarling animal can be intimidating and cause an opponent to think twice before engaging.
- Crazy. Examples are Viking berserkers or Moro rebels in the Philippines. This mental state is for killing without worrying about getting killed. The US Army switched to using higher caliber (larger) bullets with more "stopping power" to fight the Moro rebels because they would keep fighting even after being shot.
There is a range of possibilities.
answered Jan 24 at 17:08
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Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?
– Uwe Keim
Jan 25 at 6:53
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<Pedantic>It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD</Pedantic>. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!
– Mike P
Jan 25 at 10:43
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Tigers are fierce, but they are not angry when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner.
– Larry
Jan 25 at 18:33
Did they specifically mention anger? "Express your inner tiger" doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery.
– NotThatGuy
Jan 25 at 20:49