$x-j2^-k$ dense in $mathbbR$?
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We define the subset $Asubset mathbbR$ as follows: $xin A$ if and only if there exists $c>0$ so that
$$ |x-j2^-k|geq c2^-k $$
holds for all $jin mathbbZ$ and integers $kgeq 0$. Prove that $A$ is dense
So I tried showing that for any interval $(a,b)in mathbbR, (a,b)cap A neq emptyset$. But I am having quite a bit of trouble. Does anyone have a hint on how to proceed?
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We define the subset $Asubset mathbbR$ as follows: $xin A$ if and only if there exists $c>0$ so that
$$ |x-j2^-k|geq c2^-k $$
holds for all $jin mathbbZ$ and integers $kgeq 0$. Prove that $A$ is dense
So I tried showing that for any interval $(a,b)in mathbbR, (a,b)cap A neq emptyset$. But I am having quite a bit of trouble. Does anyone have a hint on how to proceed?
real-analysis general-topology
Dense in $Bbb R$?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Dec 3 at 9:21
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We define the subset $Asubset mathbbR$ as follows: $xin A$ if and only if there exists $c>0$ so that
$$ |x-j2^-k|geq c2^-k $$
holds for all $jin mathbbZ$ and integers $kgeq 0$. Prove that $A$ is dense
So I tried showing that for any interval $(a,b)in mathbbR, (a,b)cap A neq emptyset$. But I am having quite a bit of trouble. Does anyone have a hint on how to proceed?
real-analysis general-topology
We define the subset $Asubset mathbbR$ as follows: $xin A$ if and only if there exists $c>0$ so that
$$ |x-j2^-k|geq c2^-k $$
holds for all $jin mathbbZ$ and integers $kgeq 0$. Prove that $A$ is dense
So I tried showing that for any interval $(a,b)in mathbbR, (a,b)cap A neq emptyset$. But I am having quite a bit of trouble. Does anyone have a hint on how to proceed?
real-analysis general-topology
real-analysis general-topology
edited Dec 3 at 10:24
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Dense in $Bbb R$?
– Mostafa Ayaz
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Dense in $Bbb R$?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Dec 3 at 9:21
Dense in $Bbb R$?
– Mostafa Ayaz
Dec 3 at 9:21
Dense in $Bbb R$?
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If $x $ is a rational number wchich can be represent as $fracsl $ with $GCD(s,l)=1 $ and such that $2 $ not divide $l$ then $xin A.$ This is because that $$|2^k x -j|geqfrac1$$ for all $jin mathbbZ.$ But set of such $x$ is dense in $mathbbR.$
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
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Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
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@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
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$x in A Longleftrightarrow$
there exists $c > 0$ with $forall j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$, $c leq |2^nx - j|.$
$x notin A Longleftrightarrow$
$forall c > 0$, there exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $|2^nx - j| < c$
$Longleftrightarrow$
exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $x = j/2^n$
$Longleftrightarrow x$ is a dyadic rational.
Since $R - Q subset R - x : x text dyadic rational = A$
and $R - Q$ is dense, $A$ is dense.
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
If $x $ is a rational number wchich can be represent as $fracsl $ with $GCD(s,l)=1 $ and such that $2 $ not divide $l$ then $xin A.$ This is because that $$|2^k x -j|geqfrac1$$ for all $jin mathbbZ.$ But set of such $x$ is dense in $mathbbR.$
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
2
Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
1
@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
If $x $ is a rational number wchich can be represent as $fracsl $ with $GCD(s,l)=1 $ and such that $2 $ not divide $l$ then $xin A.$ This is because that $$|2^k x -j|geqfrac1$$ for all $jin mathbbZ.$ But set of such $x$ is dense in $mathbbR.$
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
2
Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
1
@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
If $x $ is a rational number wchich can be represent as $fracsl $ with $GCD(s,l)=1 $ and such that $2 $ not divide $l$ then $xin A.$ This is because that $$|2^k x -j|geqfrac1$$ for all $jin mathbbZ.$ But set of such $x$ is dense in $mathbbR.$
If $x $ is a rational number wchich can be represent as $fracsl $ with $GCD(s,l)=1 $ and such that $2 $ not divide $l$ then $xin A.$ This is because that $$|2^k x -j|geqfrac1$$ for all $jin mathbbZ.$ But set of such $x$ is dense in $mathbbR.$
edited Dec 3 at 9:22
answered Dec 3 at 9:21
MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
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6,549917
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
2
Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
1
@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
add a comment |
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
2
Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
1
@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
what's NWD?....
– mathworker21
Dec 3 at 9:22
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
sorry I mean GCD
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:23
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
greatest common divisor
– MotylaNogaTomkaMazura
Dec 3 at 9:24
2
2
Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
Why is this set dense in $mathbbR$?
– elrond
Dec 3 at 10:30
1
1
@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
@elrond for a fixed prime $p>2$ the set $k/p^m$ is dense (it actually is true even if $p$ is not prime). This is because for any $xinmathbbR$ and any $m$ there's one of those rationals between $x$ and $x+1/p^m$.
– freakish
Dec 3 at 10:53
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
$x in A Longleftrightarrow$
there exists $c > 0$ with $forall j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$, $c leq |2^nx - j|.$
$x notin A Longleftrightarrow$
$forall c > 0$, there exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $|2^nx - j| < c$
$Longleftrightarrow$
exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $x = j/2^n$
$Longleftrightarrow x$ is a dyadic rational.
Since $R - Q subset R - x : x text dyadic rational = A$
and $R - Q$ is dense, $A$ is dense.
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
$x in A Longleftrightarrow$
there exists $c > 0$ with $forall j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$, $c leq |2^nx - j|.$
$x notin A Longleftrightarrow$
$forall c > 0$, there exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $|2^nx - j| < c$
$Longleftrightarrow$
exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $x = j/2^n$
$Longleftrightarrow x$ is a dyadic rational.
Since $R - Q subset R - x : x text dyadic rational = A$
and $R - Q$ is dense, $A$ is dense.
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
$x in A Longleftrightarrow$
there exists $c > 0$ with $forall j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$, $c leq |2^nx - j|.$
$x notin A Longleftrightarrow$
$forall c > 0$, there exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $|2^nx - j| < c$
$Longleftrightarrow$
exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $x = j/2^n$
$Longleftrightarrow x$ is a dyadic rational.
Since $R - Q subset R - x : x text dyadic rational = A$
and $R - Q$ is dense, $A$ is dense.
$x in A Longleftrightarrow$
there exists $c > 0$ with $forall j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$, $c leq |2^nx - j|.$
$x notin A Longleftrightarrow$
$forall c > 0$, there exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $|2^nx - j| < c$
$Longleftrightarrow$
exists $j in Z$, integer $n geq 0$ with $x = j/2^n$
$Longleftrightarrow x$ is a dyadic rational.
Since $R - Q subset R - x : x text dyadic rational = A$
and $R - Q$ is dense, $A$ is dense.
edited Dec 3 at 10:29


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answered Dec 3 at 10:04
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– Mostafa Ayaz
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