Does rsync verify files copied between two local drives?

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I want to make a fresh new copy of a large number of files from one local drive to another.
I've read that rsync does a checksum comparison of files when sending them to a remote machine over a network.
Will rsync make the comparison when copying the files between two local drives?
If it does do a verification - is it a safe bet? Or is it better to do a byte by byte comparison?
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I want to make a fresh new copy of a large number of files from one local drive to another.
I've read that rsync does a checksum comparison of files when sending them to a remote machine over a network.
Will rsync make the comparison when copying the files between two local drives?
If it does do a verification - is it a safe bet? Or is it better to do a byte by byte comparison?
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I want to make a fresh new copy of a large number of files from one local drive to another.
I've read that rsync does a checksum comparison of files when sending them to a remote machine over a network.
Will rsync make the comparison when copying the files between two local drives?
If it does do a verification - is it a safe bet? Or is it better to do a byte by byte comparison?
rsync verification
I want to make a fresh new copy of a large number of files from one local drive to another.
I've read that rsync does a checksum comparison of files when sending them to a remote machine over a network.
Will rsync make the comparison when copying the files between two local drives?
If it does do a verification - is it a safe bet? Or is it better to do a byte by byte comparison?
rsync verification
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rsync always uses checksums to verify that a file was transferred correctly. If the destination file already exists, rsync may skip updating the file if the modification time and size match the source file, but if rsync decides that data need to be transferred, checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes. This verifies that the data received are the same as the data sent with high probability, without the heavy overhead of a byte-level comparison over the network.
Once the file data are received, rsync writes the data to the file and trusts that if the kernel indicates a successful write, the data were written without corruption to disk. rsync does not reread the data and compare against the known checksum as an additional check.
As for the verification itself, for protocol 30 and beyond (first supported in 3.0.0), rsync uses MD5. For older protocols, the checksum used is MD4.
While long considered obsolete for secure cryptographic hashes, MD5 and MD4 remain adequate for checking file corruption.
Source: the man page and eyeballing the rsync source code to verify.
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I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
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@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the-cflag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."
â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
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This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
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@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
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Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
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Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
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rsync does not do the post-copy verification for local file copies. You can verify that it does not by using rsync to copy a large file to a slow (i.e. USB) drive, and then copying the same file with cp, i.e.:
time rsync bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfile
time cp bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfileBoth commands take about the same amount of time, therefore rsync cannot possibly be doing the checksumâsince that would involve re-reading the destination file off the slow disk.
The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with straceâafter the copy is complete, rsync issues no read() calls on the destination file, so it cannot be checksumming it. One more you can verify it is with something like iotop: you see rsync doing read and write simultaneously (copying from source to destination), then it exits. If it were verifying integrity, there would be a read-only phase.
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"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
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There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You runrsync -cagain if you want to force it to check.
â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
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rsync makes a checksum comparison before copying (in some cases), to avoid copying what's already there. The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful. That's the job of the underlying infrastructure: the filesystem drivers, the disk drivers, the network drivers, etc. Individual applications such as rsync don't need to bother with this madness. All rsync needs to do (and does!) is to check the return values of system calls to make sure there was no error.
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This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
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@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
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Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
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@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
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rsync always uses checksums to verify that a file was transferred correctly. If the destination file already exists, rsync may skip updating the file if the modification time and size match the source file, but if rsync decides that data need to be transferred, checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes. This verifies that the data received are the same as the data sent with high probability, without the heavy overhead of a byte-level comparison over the network.
Once the file data are received, rsync writes the data to the file and trusts that if the kernel indicates a successful write, the data were written without corruption to disk. rsync does not reread the data and compare against the known checksum as an additional check.
As for the verification itself, for protocol 30 and beyond (first supported in 3.0.0), rsync uses MD5. For older protocols, the checksum used is MD4.
While long considered obsolete for secure cryptographic hashes, MD5 and MD4 remain adequate for checking file corruption.
Source: the man page and eyeballing the rsync source code to verify.
3
I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
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@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the-cflag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."
â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
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This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
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@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
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Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
â ndemou
Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
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rsync always uses checksums to verify that a file was transferred correctly. If the destination file already exists, rsync may skip updating the file if the modification time and size match the source file, but if rsync decides that data need to be transferred, checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes. This verifies that the data received are the same as the data sent with high probability, without the heavy overhead of a byte-level comparison over the network.
Once the file data are received, rsync writes the data to the file and trusts that if the kernel indicates a successful write, the data were written without corruption to disk. rsync does not reread the data and compare against the known checksum as an additional check.
As for the verification itself, for protocol 30 and beyond (first supported in 3.0.0), rsync uses MD5. For older protocols, the checksum used is MD4.
While long considered obsolete for secure cryptographic hashes, MD5 and MD4 remain adequate for checking file corruption.
Source: the man page and eyeballing the rsync source code to verify.
3
I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
18
@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the-cflag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."
â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
6
This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
3
@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
4
Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
â ndemou
Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
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up vote
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rsync always uses checksums to verify that a file was transferred correctly. If the destination file already exists, rsync may skip updating the file if the modification time and size match the source file, but if rsync decides that data need to be transferred, checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes. This verifies that the data received are the same as the data sent with high probability, without the heavy overhead of a byte-level comparison over the network.
Once the file data are received, rsync writes the data to the file and trusts that if the kernel indicates a successful write, the data were written without corruption to disk. rsync does not reread the data and compare against the known checksum as an additional check.
As for the verification itself, for protocol 30 and beyond (first supported in 3.0.0), rsync uses MD5. For older protocols, the checksum used is MD4.
While long considered obsolete for secure cryptographic hashes, MD5 and MD4 remain adequate for checking file corruption.
Source: the man page and eyeballing the rsync source code to verify.
rsync always uses checksums to verify that a file was transferred correctly. If the destination file already exists, rsync may skip updating the file if the modification time and size match the source file, but if rsync decides that data need to be transferred, checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes. This verifies that the data received are the same as the data sent with high probability, without the heavy overhead of a byte-level comparison over the network.
Once the file data are received, rsync writes the data to the file and trusts that if the kernel indicates a successful write, the data were written without corruption to disk. rsync does not reread the data and compare against the known checksum as an additional check.
As for the verification itself, for protocol 30 and beyond (first supported in 3.0.0), rsync uses MD5. For older protocols, the checksum used is MD4.
While long considered obsolete for secure cryptographic hashes, MD5 and MD4 remain adequate for checking file corruption.
Source: the man page and eyeballing the rsync source code to verify.
edited Dec 13 '16 at 2:03
answered Feb 5 '12 at 23:42
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I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
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@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the-cflag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."
â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
6
This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
3
@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
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Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
â ndemou
Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
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I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
18
@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the-cflag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."
â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
6
This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
3
@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
4
Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
â ndemou
Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
3
3
I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
I hate to burst everyoneâÂÂs bubble but rsync only does check sum verification if the -c flag is added!
â user30825
Jan 21 '13 at 21:32
18
18
@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the
-c flag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
@clint No, the answer is correct. From the man page's explanation of the
-c flag: "Note that rsync always verifies that each transferred file was correctly reconstructed on the receiving side by checking a whole-file checksum that is generated as the file is transferred, but that automatic after-the-transfer verification has nothing to do with this option's before-the-transfer "Does this file need to be updated?" check."â Michael Mrozekâ¦
Jan 21 '13 at 21:41
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6
This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
This answer does not make it clear if it actually verifies the file after a copy. If the checksum is computed as the file is being received, then it is not a post-copy checksum and you cannot be sure that the file is written correctly. You would then need to perform an additional comparison.
â Andre Miller
Mar 24 '15 at 21:26
3
3
@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
@AndreMiller Thanks for the comment. I've updated the answer to address that issue.
â Kyle Jones
Mar 24 '15 at 22:02
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4
Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
â ndemou
Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
Down-voting because I don't like the fact that this answer is detailed well written and technically correct and at the same time so much off topic that it misleads readers. The problem is that the answer goes into great detail on what happens during transfer while the questioner specifically states that he cares about local copies and not network transfers. I'm pretty sure Kyle Jones didn't want to mislead anyone but this answer (IMHO) does.
â ndemou
Jun 29 '16 at 19:38
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rsync does not do the post-copy verification for local file copies. You can verify that it does not by using rsync to copy a large file to a slow (i.e. USB) drive, and then copying the same file with cp, i.e.:
time rsync bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfile
time cp bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfileBoth commands take about the same amount of time, therefore rsync cannot possibly be doing the checksumâsince that would involve re-reading the destination file off the slow disk.
The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with straceâafter the copy is complete, rsync issues no read() calls on the destination file, so it cannot be checksumming it. One more you can verify it is with something like iotop: you see rsync doing read and write simultaneously (copying from source to destination), then it exits. If it were verifying integrity, there would be a read-only phase.
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"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
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There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You runrsync -cagain if you want to force it to check.
â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
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rsync does not do the post-copy verification for local file copies. You can verify that it does not by using rsync to copy a large file to a slow (i.e. USB) drive, and then copying the same file with cp, i.e.:
time rsync bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfile
time cp bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfileBoth commands take about the same amount of time, therefore rsync cannot possibly be doing the checksumâsince that would involve re-reading the destination file off the slow disk.
The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with straceâafter the copy is complete, rsync issues no read() calls on the destination file, so it cannot be checksumming it. One more you can verify it is with something like iotop: you see rsync doing read and write simultaneously (copying from source to destination), then it exits. If it were verifying integrity, there would be a read-only phase.
1
"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
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There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You runrsync -cagain if you want to force it to check.
â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
add a comment |Â
up vote
34
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up vote
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rsync does not do the post-copy verification for local file copies. You can verify that it does not by using rsync to copy a large file to a slow (i.e. USB) drive, and then copying the same file with cp, i.e.:
time rsync bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfile
time cp bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfileBoth commands take about the same amount of time, therefore rsync cannot possibly be doing the checksumâsince that would involve re-reading the destination file off the slow disk.
The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with straceâafter the copy is complete, rsync issues no read() calls on the destination file, so it cannot be checksumming it. One more you can verify it is with something like iotop: you see rsync doing read and write simultaneously (copying from source to destination), then it exits. If it were verifying integrity, there would be a read-only phase.
rsync does not do the post-copy verification for local file copies. You can verify that it does not by using rsync to copy a large file to a slow (i.e. USB) drive, and then copying the same file with cp, i.e.:
time rsync bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfile
time cp bigfile /mnt/usb/bigfileBoth commands take about the same amount of time, therefore rsync cannot possibly be doing the checksumâsince that would involve re-reading the destination file off the slow disk.
The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with straceâafter the copy is complete, rsync issues no read() calls on the destination file, so it cannot be checksumming it. One more you can verify it is with something like iotop: you see rsync doing read and write simultaneously (copying from source to destination), then it exits. If it were verifying integrity, there would be a read-only phase.
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"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
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There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You runrsync -cagain if you want to force it to check.
â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
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"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
7
There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You runrsync -cagain if you want to force it to check.
â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
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"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
"The man page is unfortunately misleading about this. I also verified this with strace" Did you strace the remote, running rsync process or the local one? There are two... one runs on the destination, even when you use ssh.
â user129070
May 6 '13 at 19:20
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There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You run
rsync -c again if you want to force it to check.â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
There is no post-copy verification for any copies, local or remote. You run
rsync -c again if you want to force it to check.â psusi
May 6 '13 at 23:50
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
The verification is done on the incoming stream as it goes. It's not necessary to read it back from the disk if the filesystem has confirmed it's been written.
â OrangeDog
Jul 11 at 15:51
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up vote
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rsync makes a checksum comparison before copying (in some cases), to avoid copying what's already there. The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful. That's the job of the underlying infrastructure: the filesystem drivers, the disk drivers, the network drivers, etc. Individual applications such as rsync don't need to bother with this madness. All rsync needs to do (and does!) is to check the return values of system calls to make sure there was no error.
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This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
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@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
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Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
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@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
â Gilles
Aug 7 '17 at 20:04
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rsync makes a checksum comparison before copying (in some cases), to avoid copying what's already there. The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful. That's the job of the underlying infrastructure: the filesystem drivers, the disk drivers, the network drivers, etc. Individual applications such as rsync don't need to bother with this madness. All rsync needs to do (and does!) is to check the return values of system calls to make sure there was no error.
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This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
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@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
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Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
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@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
â Gilles
Aug 7 '17 at 20:04
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rsync makes a checksum comparison before copying (in some cases), to avoid copying what's already there. The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful. That's the job of the underlying infrastructure: the filesystem drivers, the disk drivers, the network drivers, etc. Individual applications such as rsync don't need to bother with this madness. All rsync needs to do (and does!) is to check the return values of system calls to make sure there was no error.
rsync makes a checksum comparison before copying (in some cases), to avoid copying what's already there. The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful. That's the job of the underlying infrastructure: the filesystem drivers, the disk drivers, the network drivers, etc. Individual applications such as rsync don't need to bother with this madness. All rsync needs to do (and does!) is to check the return values of system calls to make sure there was no error.
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This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
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@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
3
Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
1
@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
â Gilles
Aug 7 '17 at 20:04
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This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
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@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
3
Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
1
@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
â Gilles
Aug 7 '17 at 20:04
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This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
This seems to contradict the accepted answer...
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 6:45
1
1
@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
@djule5 In what way? The accepted answer seems to mostly be about how rsync checks transferred files, but the question, and my answer, are about local copies.
â Gilles
Jan 13 '16 at 10:16
3
3
Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
Ok, well in that context I agree it makes more sense. So "The point of the checksum comparison is not to verify that the copy was successful" is true only for local copies; and "checksums are always used on the data transferred between the sending and receiving rsync processes" is true only for transferred copies. I find the accepted answer misleading in regard to the question and believe your answer should be the accepted one (just my 2 cents).
â djule5
Jan 13 '16 at 18:23
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
I still feel this answer is slightly misleading. For example, it says that the network drivers in particular verify if the copy was successful - but if you were saying that checksum comparison does not verify if the copy was successful for local only, network drivers would not come into play.
â Ken
Aug 7 '17 at 19:56
1
1
@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
â Gilles
Aug 7 '17 at 20:04
@Ken I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I suspect you misread something. The network drivers come into play only if there's a network copy. Rsync itself does a checksum comparison before doing any copy, in order to decide whether to copy. Rsync doesn't do any checksum comparison after copying (because it would be pointless: it knows what it's just copied).
â Gilles
Aug 7 '17 at 20:04
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