What is the use of 'de' preposition in 'Yo voy *de* compras todos los sábados'
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Can someone please explain the grammar use of 'de' in the sentence below? I understood 'de' to mean 'of the'.
Yo voy de compras todos los sábados. I go shopping every Saturday
Would it not also be correct to say "Yo voy comprar todos los sábados"? I thought the 2nd verb had to be in the infinitive. Am I missing a gerund, perhaps?
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Can someone please explain the grammar use of 'de' in the sentence below? I understood 'de' to mean 'of the'.
Yo voy de compras todos los sábados. I go shopping every Saturday
Would it not also be correct to say "Yo voy comprar todos los sábados"? I thought the 2nd verb had to be in the infinitive. Am I missing a gerund, perhaps?
gramática preposiciones
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Can someone please explain the grammar use of 'de' in the sentence below? I understood 'de' to mean 'of the'.
Yo voy de compras todos los sábados. I go shopping every Saturday
Would it not also be correct to say "Yo voy comprar todos los sábados"? I thought the 2nd verb had to be in the infinitive. Am I missing a gerund, perhaps?
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Can someone please explain the grammar use of 'de' in the sentence below? I understood 'de' to mean 'of the'.
Yo voy de compras todos los sábados. I go shopping every Saturday
Would it not also be correct to say "Yo voy comprar todos los sábados"? I thought the 2nd verb had to be in the infinitive. Am I missing a gerund, perhaps?
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Ir de... + noun is a pattern that you can use with a number of nouns. The meaning is about the same as the English "to go ...-ing". It has a connotation of planning or intent.
The word compra is a noun that means "purchase", "an act of buying". Ir de compras means "to go shopping", "to go on a shopping tour". It's in the plural because you'll probably shop for several items, and also because that's just how the phrase is used (it's a fixed idiom).
Other examples of this pattern:
ir de paseo = "to go for a walk" (or "to go for a ride", if in a vehicle)
ir de visita = "to go visiting", "to go on a visit" (ir de visita a lo de alguien = "to go on a visit to someone's house")
ir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
ir de copas = "to go out for drinks" (copas = "cups", figurative for "drinks")
For most of these you can use the verb in its pronominal form, with the "reflexive" pronoun: irse de compras, irse de viaje, etc., but not when speaking of habitual actions.
Me voy de compras. ¿Necesitas algo?
"I'm going shopping. Do you need anything?"
Generalmente voy de compras los sábados.
"I normally go shopping on Saturday."
Voy a comprar todos los sábados sounds wrong, mostly because comprar likes to have a direct object (the things that you're buying). Voy de compras solves this and allows you to be more general: you don't need to specify what you're buying, just that you're out shopping.
Finally, for many of these verbs you can replace ir with salir, with an almost identical meaning:
salir de paseo = "to go out for a walk"
salir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
The idea is the same, with the added connotation of "going out" (implying absence and distance).
Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
1
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
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"compras" is a noun there (the plural form of the noun "compra"), and "de compras" is a prepositional phrase more or less equivalent to "on a buying tour".
Alternatively, you can say:
- (Yo) Voy a hacer compras todos los sábados.
- (Yo) Hago compras todos los sábados.
or, as you said:
- (Yo) Voy a comprar todos los sábados. (Notice you need "a" between the verb "ir" and the infinitive that follows.)
In the first two examples above, "compras" is also a plural noun, meaning "purchases".
Other similar phrases are "de paseo" (for a walk) and "de excursión/viaje" (on a trip).
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You proposed
Yo voy comprar todos los sábados.
Let's change this a tiny bit to "I'm going to buy a kilo of flour" (to avoid the special thing with "de"):
Yo voy a comprar un kilo de harina.
The expression "Yo voy a [verb]" is a pattern that corresponds to "I'm going to [verb]."
Side note 1: As you may have learned, or might be learning soon, you can omit the subject pronoun "yo." In fact most of the time this is preferable, as it sounds more natural. (But as a beginner it's okay if you include it. Also, it would be included if one wants to emphasize who's doing the buying.)
Side note 2: "De" means of, from, etc. "Del / de la" means of the.
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Ir de... + noun is a pattern that you can use with a number of nouns. The meaning is about the same as the English "to go ...-ing". It has a connotation of planning or intent.
The word compra is a noun that means "purchase", "an act of buying". Ir de compras means "to go shopping", "to go on a shopping tour". It's in the plural because you'll probably shop for several items, and also because that's just how the phrase is used (it's a fixed idiom).
Other examples of this pattern:
ir de paseo = "to go for a walk" (or "to go for a ride", if in a vehicle)
ir de visita = "to go visiting", "to go on a visit" (ir de visita a lo de alguien = "to go on a visit to someone's house")
ir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
ir de copas = "to go out for drinks" (copas = "cups", figurative for "drinks")
For most of these you can use the verb in its pronominal form, with the "reflexive" pronoun: irse de compras, irse de viaje, etc., but not when speaking of habitual actions.
Me voy de compras. ¿Necesitas algo?
"I'm going shopping. Do you need anything?"
Generalmente voy de compras los sábados.
"I normally go shopping on Saturday."
Voy a comprar todos los sábados sounds wrong, mostly because comprar likes to have a direct object (the things that you're buying). Voy de compras solves this and allows you to be more general: you don't need to specify what you're buying, just that you're out shopping.
Finally, for many of these verbs you can replace ir with salir, with an almost identical meaning:
salir de paseo = "to go out for a walk"
salir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
The idea is the same, with the added connotation of "going out" (implying absence and distance).
Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
1
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
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Ir de... + noun is a pattern that you can use with a number of nouns. The meaning is about the same as the English "to go ...-ing". It has a connotation of planning or intent.
The word compra is a noun that means "purchase", "an act of buying". Ir de compras means "to go shopping", "to go on a shopping tour". It's in the plural because you'll probably shop for several items, and also because that's just how the phrase is used (it's a fixed idiom).
Other examples of this pattern:
ir de paseo = "to go for a walk" (or "to go for a ride", if in a vehicle)
ir de visita = "to go visiting", "to go on a visit" (ir de visita a lo de alguien = "to go on a visit to someone's house")
ir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
ir de copas = "to go out for drinks" (copas = "cups", figurative for "drinks")
For most of these you can use the verb in its pronominal form, with the "reflexive" pronoun: irse de compras, irse de viaje, etc., but not when speaking of habitual actions.
Me voy de compras. ¿Necesitas algo?
"I'm going shopping. Do you need anything?"
Generalmente voy de compras los sábados.
"I normally go shopping on Saturday."
Voy a comprar todos los sábados sounds wrong, mostly because comprar likes to have a direct object (the things that you're buying). Voy de compras solves this and allows you to be more general: you don't need to specify what you're buying, just that you're out shopping.
Finally, for many of these verbs you can replace ir with salir, with an almost identical meaning:
salir de paseo = "to go out for a walk"
salir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
The idea is the same, with the added connotation of "going out" (implying absence and distance).
Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
1
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
add a comment |
Ir de... + noun is a pattern that you can use with a number of nouns. The meaning is about the same as the English "to go ...-ing". It has a connotation of planning or intent.
The word compra is a noun that means "purchase", "an act of buying". Ir de compras means "to go shopping", "to go on a shopping tour". It's in the plural because you'll probably shop for several items, and also because that's just how the phrase is used (it's a fixed idiom).
Other examples of this pattern:
ir de paseo = "to go for a walk" (or "to go for a ride", if in a vehicle)
ir de visita = "to go visiting", "to go on a visit" (ir de visita a lo de alguien = "to go on a visit to someone's house")
ir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
ir de copas = "to go out for drinks" (copas = "cups", figurative for "drinks")
For most of these you can use the verb in its pronominal form, with the "reflexive" pronoun: irse de compras, irse de viaje, etc., but not when speaking of habitual actions.
Me voy de compras. ¿Necesitas algo?
"I'm going shopping. Do you need anything?"
Generalmente voy de compras los sábados.
"I normally go shopping on Saturday."
Voy a comprar todos los sábados sounds wrong, mostly because comprar likes to have a direct object (the things that you're buying). Voy de compras solves this and allows you to be more general: you don't need to specify what you're buying, just that you're out shopping.
Finally, for many of these verbs you can replace ir with salir, with an almost identical meaning:
salir de paseo = "to go out for a walk"
salir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
The idea is the same, with the added connotation of "going out" (implying absence and distance).
Ir de... + noun is a pattern that you can use with a number of nouns. The meaning is about the same as the English "to go ...-ing". It has a connotation of planning or intent.
The word compra is a noun that means "purchase", "an act of buying". Ir de compras means "to go shopping", "to go on a shopping tour". It's in the plural because you'll probably shop for several items, and also because that's just how the phrase is used (it's a fixed idiom).
Other examples of this pattern:
ir de paseo = "to go for a walk" (or "to go for a ride", if in a vehicle)
ir de visita = "to go visiting", "to go on a visit" (ir de visita a lo de alguien = "to go on a visit to someone's house")
ir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
ir de copas = "to go out for drinks" (copas = "cups", figurative for "drinks")
For most of these you can use the verb in its pronominal form, with the "reflexive" pronoun: irse de compras, irse de viaje, etc., but not when speaking of habitual actions.
Me voy de compras. ¿Necesitas algo?
"I'm going shopping. Do you need anything?"
Generalmente voy de compras los sábados.
"I normally go shopping on Saturday."
Voy a comprar todos los sábados sounds wrong, mostly because comprar likes to have a direct object (the things that you're buying). Voy de compras solves this and allows you to be more general: you don't need to specify what you're buying, just that you're out shopping.
Finally, for many of these verbs you can replace ir with salir, with an almost identical meaning:
salir de paseo = "to go out for a walk"
salir de viaje = "to go on a trip"
The idea is the same, with the added connotation of "going out" (implying absence and distance).
answered Feb 27 at 23:18
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Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
1
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
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Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
1
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
Pablo, there's nothing wrong with Voy a comprar todos los sábados. Although "comprar" is mainly transitive, it can also be used intransitively.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 19:48
1
1
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
It's not wrong, but it's not natural (without any context), don't you think so? At least it's not equivalent to Voy de compras todos los sábados.
– pablodf76
Feb 28 at 20:30
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
Although voy de compras may sound more natural, I also find voy a comprar natural in contexts like the following: A: ¿Qué haces todos los sábados? - B: Voy a comprar / A: ¿Adónde vas? - B: Voy a comprar.
– Gustavson
Feb 28 at 22:22
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
@Gustavson - I'm with pablodf76 on this. In your example, my reaction would be A: ¿A comprar qué? // Also, "comprar todos los sábados" sounds like I'm going to buy me a bushel of Saturdays, and in fact buy them all out, leaving the shelves bare of Saturdays.
– aparente001
Mar 2 at 0:37
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"compras" is a noun there (the plural form of the noun "compra"), and "de compras" is a prepositional phrase more or less equivalent to "on a buying tour".
Alternatively, you can say:
- (Yo) Voy a hacer compras todos los sábados.
- (Yo) Hago compras todos los sábados.
or, as you said:
- (Yo) Voy a comprar todos los sábados. (Notice you need "a" between the verb "ir" and the infinitive that follows.)
In the first two examples above, "compras" is also a plural noun, meaning "purchases".
Other similar phrases are "de paseo" (for a walk) and "de excursión/viaje" (on a trip).
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"compras" is a noun there (the plural form of the noun "compra"), and "de compras" is a prepositional phrase more or less equivalent to "on a buying tour".
Alternatively, you can say:
- (Yo) Voy a hacer compras todos los sábados.
- (Yo) Hago compras todos los sábados.
or, as you said:
- (Yo) Voy a comprar todos los sábados. (Notice you need "a" between the verb "ir" and the infinitive that follows.)
In the first two examples above, "compras" is also a plural noun, meaning "purchases".
Other similar phrases are "de paseo" (for a walk) and "de excursión/viaje" (on a trip).
add a comment |
"compras" is a noun there (the plural form of the noun "compra"), and "de compras" is a prepositional phrase more or less equivalent to "on a buying tour".
Alternatively, you can say:
- (Yo) Voy a hacer compras todos los sábados.
- (Yo) Hago compras todos los sábados.
or, as you said:
- (Yo) Voy a comprar todos los sábados. (Notice you need "a" between the verb "ir" and the infinitive that follows.)
In the first two examples above, "compras" is also a plural noun, meaning "purchases".
Other similar phrases are "de paseo" (for a walk) and "de excursión/viaje" (on a trip).
"compras" is a noun there (the plural form of the noun "compra"), and "de compras" is a prepositional phrase more or less equivalent to "on a buying tour".
Alternatively, you can say:
- (Yo) Voy a hacer compras todos los sábados.
- (Yo) Hago compras todos los sábados.
or, as you said:
- (Yo) Voy a comprar todos los sábados. (Notice you need "a" between the verb "ir" and the infinitive that follows.)
In the first two examples above, "compras" is also a plural noun, meaning "purchases".
Other similar phrases are "de paseo" (for a walk) and "de excursión/viaje" (on a trip).
answered Feb 27 at 20:44
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Small supplementary answer
You proposed
Yo voy comprar todos los sábados.
Let's change this a tiny bit to "I'm going to buy a kilo of flour" (to avoid the special thing with "de"):
Yo voy a comprar un kilo de harina.
The expression "Yo voy a [verb]" is a pattern that corresponds to "I'm going to [verb]."
Side note 1: As you may have learned, or might be learning soon, you can omit the subject pronoun "yo." In fact most of the time this is preferable, as it sounds more natural. (But as a beginner it's okay if you include it. Also, it would be included if one wants to emphasize who's doing the buying.)
Side note 2: "De" means of, from, etc. "Del / de la" means of the.
add a comment |
Small supplementary answer
You proposed
Yo voy comprar todos los sábados.
Let's change this a tiny bit to "I'm going to buy a kilo of flour" (to avoid the special thing with "de"):
Yo voy a comprar un kilo de harina.
The expression "Yo voy a [verb]" is a pattern that corresponds to "I'm going to [verb]."
Side note 1: As you may have learned, or might be learning soon, you can omit the subject pronoun "yo." In fact most of the time this is preferable, as it sounds more natural. (But as a beginner it's okay if you include it. Also, it would be included if one wants to emphasize who's doing the buying.)
Side note 2: "De" means of, from, etc. "Del / de la" means of the.
add a comment |
Small supplementary answer
You proposed
Yo voy comprar todos los sábados.
Let's change this a tiny bit to "I'm going to buy a kilo of flour" (to avoid the special thing with "de"):
Yo voy a comprar un kilo de harina.
The expression "Yo voy a [verb]" is a pattern that corresponds to "I'm going to [verb]."
Side note 1: As you may have learned, or might be learning soon, you can omit the subject pronoun "yo." In fact most of the time this is preferable, as it sounds more natural. (But as a beginner it's okay if you include it. Also, it would be included if one wants to emphasize who's doing the buying.)
Side note 2: "De" means of, from, etc. "Del / de la" means of the.
Small supplementary answer
You proposed
Yo voy comprar todos los sábados.
Let's change this a tiny bit to "I'm going to buy a kilo of flour" (to avoid the special thing with "de"):
Yo voy a comprar un kilo de harina.
The expression "Yo voy a [verb]" is a pattern that corresponds to "I'm going to [verb]."
Side note 1: As you may have learned, or might be learning soon, you can omit the subject pronoun "yo." In fact most of the time this is preferable, as it sounds more natural. (But as a beginner it's okay if you include it. Also, it would be included if one wants to emphasize who's doing the buying.)
Side note 2: "De" means of, from, etc. "Del / de la" means of the.
answered Mar 2 at 0:44
aparente001aparente001
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