How to calculate mod of number with big exponent [duplicate]
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I want to find
$$
5^133 mod 8.
$$
I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^133 mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?
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I want to find
$$
5^133 mod 8.
$$
I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^133 mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?
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Hint: $bmod 8!: color#c005^large 2equiv 1,Rightarrow, 5^large 2nequiv (color#c005^large 2)^large nequiv color#c001^large nequiv 1 $
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
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25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
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@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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Mod of numbers with large exponents
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I want to find
$$
5^133 mod 8.
$$
I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^133 mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?
algebra-precalculus arithmetic
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How do I compute $a^b,bmod c$ by hand?
9 answers
Mod of numbers with large exponents
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I want to find
$$
5^133 mod 8.
$$
I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^133 mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?
This question already has an answer here:
How do I compute $a^b,bmod c$ by hand?
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Mod of numbers with large exponents
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Hint: $bmod 8!: color#c005^large 2equiv 1,Rightarrow, 5^large 2nequiv (color#c005^large 2)^large nequiv color#c001^large nequiv 1 $
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– Bill Dubuque
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
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– Sandi
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25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
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– Eleven-Eleven
Feb 17 at 22:30
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@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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Hint: $bmod 8!: color#c005^large 2equiv 1,Rightarrow, 5^large 2nequiv (color#c005^large 2)^large nequiv color#c001^large nequiv 1 $
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– Bill Dubuque
Feb 17 at 22:28
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:29
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25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
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– Eleven-Eleven
Feb 17 at 22:30
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@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:31
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Hint: $bmod 8!: color#c005^large 2equiv 1,Rightarrow, 5^large 2nequiv (color#c005^large 2)^large nequiv color#c001^large nequiv 1 $
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– Bill Dubuque
Feb 17 at 22:28
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Hint: $bmod 8!: color#c005^large 2equiv 1,Rightarrow, 5^large 2nequiv (color#c005^large 2)^large nequiv color#c001^large nequiv 1 $
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– Bill Dubuque
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:29
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:29
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25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
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– Eleven-Eleven
Feb 17 at 22:30
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25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
$endgroup$
– Eleven-Eleven
Feb 17 at 22:30
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@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:31
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@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence
$5^133equiv 5^2times 66+1equiv 5times (5^2)^66equiv 5times 1^66equiv 5$ (mod $8$).
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Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
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Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
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$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
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I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
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Feb 17 at 22:59
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"Highbrow method":
If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^varphi (n)cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.
($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)
Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$
Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^133=(5^4)^33cdot 5cong5pmod8$.
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First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence
$5^133equiv 5^2times 66+1equiv 5times (5^2)^66equiv 5times 1^66equiv 5$ (mod $8$).
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Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
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Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
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$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
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I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:59
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First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence
$5^133equiv 5^2times 66+1equiv 5times (5^2)^66equiv 5times 1^66equiv 5$ (mod $8$).
$endgroup$
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Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
1
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Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
1
$begingroup$
$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
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– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
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I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:59
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show 1 more comment
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First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence
$5^133equiv 5^2times 66+1equiv 5times (5^2)^66equiv 5times 1^66equiv 5$ (mod $8$).
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First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence
$5^133equiv 5^2times 66+1equiv 5times (5^2)^66equiv 5times 1^66equiv 5$ (mod $8$).
edited Feb 17 at 22:38
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Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
1
$begingroup$
Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
1
$begingroup$
$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
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I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:59
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
1
$begingroup$
Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
1
$begingroup$
$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
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I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:59
$begingroup$
Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
$begingroup$
Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:33
1
1
$begingroup$
Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
$begingroup$
Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbbZ$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbbN$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:36
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
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I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^66 equiv 5 times 1^66 (mathrmmod 8)$. Could you clarify please?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:42
1
1
$begingroup$
$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
$begingroup$
$5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^66equiv 1^66equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:44
$begingroup$
I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:59
$begingroup$
I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:59
|
show 1 more comment
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"Highbrow method":
If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^varphi (n)cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.
($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)
Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$
Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^133=(5^4)^33cdot 5cong5pmod8$.
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add a comment |
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"Highbrow method":
If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^varphi (n)cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.
($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)
Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$
Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^133=(5^4)^33cdot 5cong5pmod8$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
"Highbrow method":
If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^varphi (n)cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.
($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)
Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$
Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^133=(5^4)^33cdot 5cong5pmod8$.
$endgroup$
"Highbrow method":
If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^varphi (n)cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.
($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)
Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$
Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^133=(5^4)^33cdot 5cong5pmod8$.
edited Feb 17 at 23:29
answered Feb 17 at 23:17
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Hint: $bmod 8!: color#c005^large 2equiv 1,Rightarrow, 5^large 2nequiv (color#c005^large 2)^large nequiv color#c001^large nequiv 1 $
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– Bill Dubuque
Feb 17 at 22:28
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
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– Sandi
Feb 17 at 22:29
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25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
$endgroup$
– Eleven-Eleven
Feb 17 at 22:30
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@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 17 at 22:31