Does a binary code with length 6, size 32 and distance 2 exist?
Clash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP
$begingroup$
The problem is to prove or disprove the existence of $C$, s.t., $|c| = 6,forall cin C$; $|C| = 32$; $d(c_i,c_j)geq2,1leq i<jleq32$. ($d$ stands for hamming distance)
I tried to construct a satisfying code. The best I can get is to let $C = C'times C'$, a concatenation of $C' = 000,011,110,101$, which is of size 16. 32 happens to be the theoretical upper bound of the size, now I don't know what to do next so as to solve the problem.
information-theory coding-theory encoding-scheme
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The problem is to prove or disprove the existence of $C$, s.t., $|c| = 6,forall cin C$; $|C| = 32$; $d(c_i,c_j)geq2,1leq i<jleq32$. ($d$ stands for hamming distance)
I tried to construct a satisfying code. The best I can get is to let $C = C'times C'$, a concatenation of $C' = 000,011,110,101$, which is of size 16. 32 happens to be the theoretical upper bound of the size, now I don't know what to do next so as to solve the problem.
information-theory coding-theory encoding-scheme
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The problem is to prove or disprove the existence of $C$, s.t., $|c| = 6,forall cin C$; $|C| = 32$; $d(c_i,c_j)geq2,1leq i<jleq32$. ($d$ stands for hamming distance)
I tried to construct a satisfying code. The best I can get is to let $C = C'times C'$, a concatenation of $C' = 000,011,110,101$, which is of size 16. 32 happens to be the theoretical upper bound of the size, now I don't know what to do next so as to solve the problem.
information-theory coding-theory encoding-scheme
$endgroup$
The problem is to prove or disprove the existence of $C$, s.t., $|c| = 6,forall cin C$; $|C| = 32$; $d(c_i,c_j)geq2,1leq i<jleq32$. ($d$ stands for hamming distance)
I tried to construct a satisfying code. The best I can get is to let $C = C'times C'$, a concatenation of $C' = 000,011,110,101$, which is of size 16. 32 happens to be the theoretical upper bound of the size, now I don't know what to do next so as to solve the problem.
information-theory coding-theory encoding-scheme
information-theory coding-theory encoding-scheme
edited Feb 27 at 13:57
Miangu
asked Feb 20 at 3:53
MianguMiangu
915
915
add a comment |
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Yes, there is such a set. You are actually on the right track to find the following example.
Let $C = c$. You can check the following.
$|C|=32$.
$d(u,v)geq2$ for all $u,vin C$, $unot=v$. (In fact, $d(u,v)=2$ or 4 or 6.)
Here are four related exercise, listed in the order of increasing difficulty. As in the question, only binary code is concerned.
Exercise 1. Give another example of a set of 32 words of length 6 and pairwise distance at least 2.
Exercise 2. Show that there are only two such sets, as given in the answer and in the exercise 1.
Exercise 3. Generalize the above to words of any given length and pairwise distance at least 2. (Hint, $32=2^6-1$.)
Exercise 4. (further generalization stated in Yuval's answer) If $A(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum pairwise distance $d$, then $A(d,2d)=A(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
All words of even parity from a linear code with $2^n-1$ codewords and minimum distance $2$.
More generally, if $A_2(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum distance $d$, then $A_2(n,2d) = A_2(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "419"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fcs.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f104581%2fdoes-a-binary-code-with-length-6-size-32-and-distance-2-exist%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Yes, there is such a set. You are actually on the right track to find the following example.
Let $C = c$. You can check the following.
$|C|=32$.
$d(u,v)geq2$ for all $u,vin C$, $unot=v$. (In fact, $d(u,v)=2$ or 4 or 6.)
Here are four related exercise, listed in the order of increasing difficulty. As in the question, only binary code is concerned.
Exercise 1. Give another example of a set of 32 words of length 6 and pairwise distance at least 2.
Exercise 2. Show that there are only two such sets, as given in the answer and in the exercise 1.
Exercise 3. Generalize the above to words of any given length and pairwise distance at least 2. (Hint, $32=2^6-1$.)
Exercise 4. (further generalization stated in Yuval's answer) If $A(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum pairwise distance $d$, then $A(d,2d)=A(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes, there is such a set. You are actually on the right track to find the following example.
Let $C = c$. You can check the following.
$|C|=32$.
$d(u,v)geq2$ for all $u,vin C$, $unot=v$. (In fact, $d(u,v)=2$ or 4 or 6.)
Here are four related exercise, listed in the order of increasing difficulty. As in the question, only binary code is concerned.
Exercise 1. Give another example of a set of 32 words of length 6 and pairwise distance at least 2.
Exercise 2. Show that there are only two such sets, as given in the answer and in the exercise 1.
Exercise 3. Generalize the above to words of any given length and pairwise distance at least 2. (Hint, $32=2^6-1$.)
Exercise 4. (further generalization stated in Yuval's answer) If $A(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum pairwise distance $d$, then $A(d,2d)=A(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes, there is such a set. You are actually on the right track to find the following example.
Let $C = c$. You can check the following.
$|C|=32$.
$d(u,v)geq2$ for all $u,vin C$, $unot=v$. (In fact, $d(u,v)=2$ or 4 or 6.)
Here are four related exercise, listed in the order of increasing difficulty. As in the question, only binary code is concerned.
Exercise 1. Give another example of a set of 32 words of length 6 and pairwise distance at least 2.
Exercise 2. Show that there are only two such sets, as given in the answer and in the exercise 1.
Exercise 3. Generalize the above to words of any given length and pairwise distance at least 2. (Hint, $32=2^6-1$.)
Exercise 4. (further generalization stated in Yuval's answer) If $A(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum pairwise distance $d$, then $A(d,2d)=A(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
Yes, there is such a set. You are actually on the right track to find the following example.
Let $C = c$. You can check the following.
$|C|=32$.
$d(u,v)geq2$ for all $u,vin C$, $unot=v$. (In fact, $d(u,v)=2$ or 4 or 6.)
Here are four related exercise, listed in the order of increasing difficulty. As in the question, only binary code is concerned.
Exercise 1. Give another example of a set of 32 words of length 6 and pairwise distance at least 2.
Exercise 2. Show that there are only two such sets, as given in the answer and in the exercise 1.
Exercise 3. Generalize the above to words of any given length and pairwise distance at least 2. (Hint, $32=2^6-1$.)
Exercise 4. (further generalization stated in Yuval's answer) If $A(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum pairwise distance $d$, then $A(d,2d)=A(n-1,2d-1)$.
edited Feb 20 at 14:05
answered Feb 20 at 5:06
Apass.JackApass.Jack
12.8k1939
12.8k1939
1
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
1
1
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
I think $d(u,v)$ may also be 6, specifically for $u=000000$ and $v=111111$, as both $uin C$ and $vin C$ because both have even number of 1's. Or am I missing something?
$endgroup$
– siegi
Feb 20 at 11:26
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
$begingroup$
@siegi, thanks. Updated.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 14:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
All words of even parity from a linear code with $2^n-1$ codewords and minimum distance $2$.
More generally, if $A_2(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum distance $d$, then $A_2(n,2d) = A_2(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
add a comment |
$begingroup$
All words of even parity from a linear code with $2^n-1$ codewords and minimum distance $2$.
More generally, if $A_2(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum distance $d$, then $A_2(n,2d) = A_2(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
add a comment |
$begingroup$
All words of even parity from a linear code with $2^n-1$ codewords and minimum distance $2$.
More generally, if $A_2(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum distance $d$, then $A_2(n,2d) = A_2(n-1,2d-1)$.
$endgroup$
All words of even parity from a linear code with $2^n-1$ codewords and minimum distance $2$.
More generally, if $A_2(n,d)$ is the maximum size of a code of length $n$ and minimum distance $d$, then $A_2(n,2d) = A_2(n-1,2d-1)$.
answered Feb 20 at 5:04
Yuval FilmusYuval Filmus
195k14183347
195k14183347
1
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
1
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
$begingroup$
Nice fact, upvoted. By the way, why not just $A(n,d)$ instead of $A_2(n,d)$? Oh, two letters.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
Feb 20 at 6:22
1
1
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
$begingroup$
The subscript signifies the field $mathbbF_2$.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
Feb 20 at 6:22
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Computer Science Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fcs.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f104581%2fdoes-a-binary-code-with-length-6-size-32-and-distance-2-exist%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown