Canadian parents 8 month stay in USA
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I live in the USA on a green card. My dad's retired and my mom had a year off of work (until Sept). We are all Canadian citizens.
I just had a kid, and they wanted to come and visit and stay with me until the end of August to be grandparents. I know as Canadians you get 182 days without needing a Visa, but I'm having trouble finding what their options are beyond this (i.e. to stay 8 months instead of the 6). In the worst case of course they can go back early. I'm thinking that we'd need to apply for a B2 visa, but I haven't found a concrete answer
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I live in the USA on a green card. My dad's retired and my mom had a year off of work (until Sept). We are all Canadian citizens.
I just had a kid, and they wanted to come and visit and stay with me until the end of August to be grandparents. I know as Canadians you get 182 days without needing a Visa, but I'm having trouble finding what their options are beyond this (i.e. to stay 8 months instead of the 6). In the worst case of course they can go back early. I'm thinking that we'd need to apply for a B2 visa, but I haven't found a concrete answer
visas usa canada
asked Jan 24 at 16:49
mindvirusmindvirus
16615
add a comment |
I live in the USA on a green card. My dad's retired and my mom had a year off of work (until Sept). We are all Canadian citizens.
I just had a kid, and they wanted to come and visit and stay with me until the end of August to be grandparents. I know as Canadians you get 182 days without needing a Visa, but I'm having trouble finding what their options are beyond this (i.e. to stay 8 months instead of the 6). In the worst case of course they can go back early. I'm thinking that we'd need to apply for a B2 visa, but I haven't found a concrete answer
visas usa canada
asked Jan 24 at 16:49
mindvirusmindvirus
16615
I live in the USA on a green card. My dad's retired and my mom had a year off of work (until Sept). We are all Canadian citizens.
I just had a kid, and they wanted to come and visit and stay with me until the end of August to be grandparents. I know as Canadians you get 182 days without needing a Visa, but I'm having trouble finding what their options are beyond this (i.e. to stay 8 months instead of the 6). In the worst case of course they can go back early. I'm thinking that we'd need to apply for a B2 visa, but I haven't found a concrete answer
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Something to think about is the length of time they'll be gone from Canada.
Most provinces you must spend a minimum of six months in a twelve month period in that province to be counted as a resident. After that you generally lose benefits such as health insurance and must go through a three month repatriation period before you're covered again. Quebec allows an exception to this once every seven years but it must be applied for, I'm not sure if any other provinces have such rules. See here for more information.
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
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answered Jan 24 at 19:07
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Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
add a comment |
"182 days without needing a visa" is not correct. Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa, as if they had a B-1 or B-2 visa (depending on the purpose of their trip). The 182-day limit that Canadians often talk about derives from US income tax law, not immigration law. If your parents spend a sufficient amount of time in the US, they will become "resident aliens" for the purpose of tax law, which will mean that they are required to report and be taxed on their worldwide income. This is based on their physical presence in the US, so it has nothing to do with immigration status.
The six-month limit in US immigration law is usually six months per visit. It's also just a default, which cannot be reduced without a good reason and approval from a supervisor. A border officer can actually admit them for up to one year if they ask for it when they enter. I have no idea whether that is a good idea, however; it might increase the chance of the border officer refusing entry.
Another option is to file an application for extension of status after they arrive in the US. This is a bit pricy, however, at $370 per person.
Applying for a B-2 visa would not change any of this; they'll be admitted as B-2 visitors regardless of whether they have a B-2 visa.
I'm not sure what's going on with Canadians and I-94s these days. It used to be that Canadians entering by land didn't get an I-94, but I think that may have changed. They should check at https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov after they arrive. If they do get an I-94, they should be aware that a trip to Canada and back might not reset their period of admission, as they can be readmitted on the same I-94.
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
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As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
2
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
2
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
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Something to think about is the length of time they'll be gone from Canada.
Most provinces you must spend a minimum of six months in a twelve month period in that province to be counted as a resident. After that you generally lose benefits such as health insurance and must go through a three month repatriation period before you're covered again. Quebec allows an exception to this once every seven years but it must be applied for, I'm not sure if any other provinces have such rules. See here for more information.
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
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answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
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Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
add a comment |
Something to think about is the length of time they'll be gone from Canada.
Most provinces you must spend a minimum of six months in a twelve month period in that province to be counted as a resident. After that you generally lose benefits such as health insurance and must go through a three month repatriation period before you're covered again. Quebec allows an exception to this once every seven years but it must be applied for, I'm not sure if any other provinces have such rules. See here for more information.
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
1054
answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
41112
7
Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
add a comment |
Something to think about is the length of time they'll be gone from Canada.
Most provinces you must spend a minimum of six months in a twelve month period in that province to be counted as a resident. After that you generally lose benefits such as health insurance and must go through a three month repatriation period before you're covered again. Quebec allows an exception to this once every seven years but it must be applied for, I'm not sure if any other provinces have such rules. See here for more information.
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
1054
answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
41112
Something to think about is the length of time they'll be gone from Canada.
Most provinces you must spend a minimum of six months in a twelve month period in that province to be counted as a resident. After that you generally lose benefits such as health insurance and must go through a three month repatriation period before you're covered again. Quebec allows an exception to this once every seven years but it must be applied for, I'm not sure if any other provinces have such rules. See here for more information.
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
1054
answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
41112
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
1054
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
1054
edited Jan 25 at 5:14
Riker
1054
1054
answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
41112
answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
41112
answered Jan 24 at 19:07
another_devanother_dev
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41112
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Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
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7
Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
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7
Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
Welcome to the site. I am going to leave this as an answer, as it is quite long for a comment and it too valuable (in my view) to be lost between comments.
– Willeke♦
Jan 24 at 19:18
add a comment |
"182 days without needing a visa" is not correct. Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa, as if they had a B-1 or B-2 visa (depending on the purpose of their trip). The 182-day limit that Canadians often talk about derives from US income tax law, not immigration law. If your parents spend a sufficient amount of time in the US, they will become "resident aliens" for the purpose of tax law, which will mean that they are required to report and be taxed on their worldwide income. This is based on their physical presence in the US, so it has nothing to do with immigration status.
The six-month limit in US immigration law is usually six months per visit. It's also just a default, which cannot be reduced without a good reason and approval from a supervisor. A border officer can actually admit them for up to one year if they ask for it when they enter. I have no idea whether that is a good idea, however; it might increase the chance of the border officer refusing entry.
Another option is to file an application for extension of status after they arrive in the US. This is a bit pricy, however, at $370 per person.
Applying for a B-2 visa would not change any of this; they'll be admitted as B-2 visitors regardless of whether they have a B-2 visa.
I'm not sure what's going on with Canadians and I-94s these days. It used to be that Canadians entering by land didn't get an I-94, but I think that may have changed. They should check at https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov after they arrive. If they do get an I-94, they should be aware that a trip to Canada and back might not reset their period of admission, as they can be readmitted on the same I-94.
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
3
As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
2
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
2
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
add a comment |
"182 days without needing a visa" is not correct. Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa, as if they had a B-1 or B-2 visa (depending on the purpose of their trip). The 182-day limit that Canadians often talk about derives from US income tax law, not immigration law. If your parents spend a sufficient amount of time in the US, they will become "resident aliens" for the purpose of tax law, which will mean that they are required to report and be taxed on their worldwide income. This is based on their physical presence in the US, so it has nothing to do with immigration status.
The six-month limit in US immigration law is usually six months per visit. It's also just a default, which cannot be reduced without a good reason and approval from a supervisor. A border officer can actually admit them for up to one year if they ask for it when they enter. I have no idea whether that is a good idea, however; it might increase the chance of the border officer refusing entry.
Another option is to file an application for extension of status after they arrive in the US. This is a bit pricy, however, at $370 per person.
Applying for a B-2 visa would not change any of this; they'll be admitted as B-2 visitors regardless of whether they have a B-2 visa.
I'm not sure what's going on with Canadians and I-94s these days. It used to be that Canadians entering by land didn't get an I-94, but I think that may have changed. They should check at https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov after they arrive. If they do get an I-94, they should be aware that a trip to Canada and back might not reset their period of admission, as they can be readmitted on the same I-94.
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
3
As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
2
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
2
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
add a comment |
"182 days without needing a visa" is not correct. Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa, as if they had a B-1 or B-2 visa (depending on the purpose of their trip). The 182-day limit that Canadians often talk about derives from US income tax law, not immigration law. If your parents spend a sufficient amount of time in the US, they will become "resident aliens" for the purpose of tax law, which will mean that they are required to report and be taxed on their worldwide income. This is based on their physical presence in the US, so it has nothing to do with immigration status.
The six-month limit in US immigration law is usually six months per visit. It's also just a default, which cannot be reduced without a good reason and approval from a supervisor. A border officer can actually admit them for up to one year if they ask for it when they enter. I have no idea whether that is a good idea, however; it might increase the chance of the border officer refusing entry.
Another option is to file an application for extension of status after they arrive in the US. This is a bit pricy, however, at $370 per person.
Applying for a B-2 visa would not change any of this; they'll be admitted as B-2 visitors regardless of whether they have a B-2 visa.
I'm not sure what's going on with Canadians and I-94s these days. It used to be that Canadians entering by land didn't get an I-94, but I think that may have changed. They should check at https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov after they arrive. If they do get an I-94, they should be aware that a trip to Canada and back might not reset their period of admission, as they can be readmitted on the same I-94.
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
"182 days without needing a visa" is not correct. Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa, as if they had a B-1 or B-2 visa (depending on the purpose of their trip). The 182-day limit that Canadians often talk about derives from US income tax law, not immigration law. If your parents spend a sufficient amount of time in the US, they will become "resident aliens" for the purpose of tax law, which will mean that they are required to report and be taxed on their worldwide income. This is based on their physical presence in the US, so it has nothing to do with immigration status.
The six-month limit in US immigration law is usually six months per visit. It's also just a default, which cannot be reduced without a good reason and approval from a supervisor. A border officer can actually admit them for up to one year if they ask for it when they enter. I have no idea whether that is a good idea, however; it might increase the chance of the border officer refusing entry.
Another option is to file an application for extension of status after they arrive in the US. This is a bit pricy, however, at $370 per person.
Applying for a B-2 visa would not change any of this; they'll be admitted as B-2 visitors regardless of whether they have a B-2 visa.
I'm not sure what's going on with Canadians and I-94s these days. It used to be that Canadians entering by land didn't get an I-94, but I think that may have changed. They should check at https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov after they arrive. If they do get an I-94, they should be aware that a trip to Canada and back might not reset their period of admission, as they can be readmitted on the same I-94.
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
answered Jan 24 at 17:31
phoogphoog
72.1k12158231
72.1k12158231
3
As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
2
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
2
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
add a comment |
3
As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
2
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
2
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
3
3
As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
As a Canadian with an extensive I-94 history: Yes, they'll have I-94 records. They'd probably want to check that site and make it clear on re-entry if they intend to stay beyond the "admit until" date on their previous I-94.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 4:29
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
@gabedwrds "they'll have I-94 records" even if they drive across?
– phoog
Jan 25 at 5:09
2
2
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
Ah, yeah, I should have made that clearer since that was the point I meant to reply to. Yes, the I-94 system tracks land entries. There's just no paper record or passport stamp which would normally indicate the admit until date or class of admission, so you have to go to i94.cbp.dhs.gov if you want to know.
– gabedwrds
Jan 25 at 6:49
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
"Canadians are admitted for six months without a visa.." Does it mean they could visit the US for six months, travel back to Canada for a single day and come back to the US for another six months?
– Trilarion
Jan 25 at 9:58
2
2
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
@Trilarion subject to the discretion of the immigration officer interviewing them at the border, yes. The same is true for anyone entering the US with a B visa.
– phoog
Jan 25 at 11:40
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