Tools for Monitoring Steal Time (st)

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We're running on a virtual "dedicated" server, which should, in theory, mean that we're the only guys on the server. In practice.... I'm thinking we might not be.



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Notice that although it looks like we're killing our machine, "Steal time" is at 71%



I'm taking statistics on load and I was disappointed that this stat didn't show up in my graphs. Are there any tools which monitor this which might be able to help?




Additional information:



We're running 4 cores, model:



# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo | sort -u
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz









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    Virtual dedicated? In case of XEN they would need to pin dedicated cores for dedicated use in your VM. Looks like your provider has overbooked CPUs by a unfair amout. What does he say to this?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 18:56






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    How many vCPUs have you got and what type of CPU is reported in grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo|sort -u? If this really a dedicated server then there is something eating up CPU-time on the Dom0. OR they gave you more vCPUs than are available in the Dom0.
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:33






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    Unless this is a momentary outlier, it looks like your isp is lieing to you and they are, in fact, running other cpu heavy vms on this machine, or there is something configured very wrong that is causing dom0 to hog a lot of cpu time.
    – psusi
    Jun 21 '12 at 3:33






  • 1




    SuSE recommends to reserve two cores solely for the Dom0 so it can do all IO-handling without bothering other VMs. In my eyes that would only be necessary for systems with stolen time in the DomUs AND heavy IO traffic. I wanted to know if your provider assigned more vCPUs than logical cores - like assign 4 vCPUs while only 2 logical CPUs are available in the Dom0 - that would explain "stolen", too (and is a pretty braindead idea - but possible in XEN).
    – Nils
    Jun 21 '12 at 20:55






  • 1




    The root cause of this one turned out to be that the ISP had the VM incorrectly configured. The guest was being told it had more cores than it actually did. This seemed to cause havoc with the scheduling. The ISP couldn't provide intelligent tech support, but we were able to "prove" the problem by disabling odd-numbered cores in /proc. Never a problem since.
    – mgjk
    Feb 23 '14 at 13:15















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We're running on a virtual "dedicated" server, which should, in theory, mean that we're the only guys on the server. In practice.... I'm thinking we might not be.



enter image description here



Notice that although it looks like we're killing our machine, "Steal time" is at 71%



I'm taking statistics on load and I was disappointed that this stat didn't show up in my graphs. Are there any tools which monitor this which might be able to help?




Additional information:



We're running 4 cores, model:



# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo | sort -u
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz









share|improve this question



















  • 1




    Virtual dedicated? In case of XEN they would need to pin dedicated cores for dedicated use in your VM. Looks like your provider has overbooked CPUs by a unfair amout. What does he say to this?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 18:56






  • 1




    How many vCPUs have you got and what type of CPU is reported in grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo|sort -u? If this really a dedicated server then there is something eating up CPU-time on the Dom0. OR they gave you more vCPUs than are available in the Dom0.
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:33






  • 1




    Unless this is a momentary outlier, it looks like your isp is lieing to you and they are, in fact, running other cpu heavy vms on this machine, or there is something configured very wrong that is causing dom0 to hog a lot of cpu time.
    – psusi
    Jun 21 '12 at 3:33






  • 1




    SuSE recommends to reserve two cores solely for the Dom0 so it can do all IO-handling without bothering other VMs. In my eyes that would only be necessary for systems with stolen time in the DomUs AND heavy IO traffic. I wanted to know if your provider assigned more vCPUs than logical cores - like assign 4 vCPUs while only 2 logical CPUs are available in the Dom0 - that would explain "stolen", too (and is a pretty braindead idea - but possible in XEN).
    – Nils
    Jun 21 '12 at 20:55






  • 1




    The root cause of this one turned out to be that the ISP had the VM incorrectly configured. The guest was being told it had more cores than it actually did. This seemed to cause havoc with the scheduling. The ISP couldn't provide intelligent tech support, but we were able to "prove" the problem by disabling odd-numbered cores in /proc. Never a problem since.
    – mgjk
    Feb 23 '14 at 13:15













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We're running on a virtual "dedicated" server, which should, in theory, mean that we're the only guys on the server. In practice.... I'm thinking we might not be.



enter image description here



Notice that although it looks like we're killing our machine, "Steal time" is at 71%



I'm taking statistics on load and I was disappointed that this stat didn't show up in my graphs. Are there any tools which monitor this which might be able to help?




Additional information:



We're running 4 cores, model:



# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo | sort -u
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz









share|improve this question















We're running on a virtual "dedicated" server, which should, in theory, mean that we're the only guys on the server. In practice.... I'm thinking we might not be.



enter image description here



Notice that although it looks like we're killing our machine, "Steal time" is at 71%



I'm taking statistics on load and I was disappointed that this stat didn't show up in my graphs. Are there any tools which monitor this which might be able to help?




Additional information:



We're running 4 cores, model:



# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo | sort -u
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz






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    Virtual dedicated? In case of XEN they would need to pin dedicated cores for dedicated use in your VM. Looks like your provider has overbooked CPUs by a unfair amout. What does he say to this?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 18:56






  • 1




    How many vCPUs have you got and what type of CPU is reported in grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo|sort -u? If this really a dedicated server then there is something eating up CPU-time on the Dom0. OR they gave you more vCPUs than are available in the Dom0.
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:33






  • 1




    Unless this is a momentary outlier, it looks like your isp is lieing to you and they are, in fact, running other cpu heavy vms on this machine, or there is something configured very wrong that is causing dom0 to hog a lot of cpu time.
    – psusi
    Jun 21 '12 at 3:33






  • 1




    SuSE recommends to reserve two cores solely for the Dom0 so it can do all IO-handling without bothering other VMs. In my eyes that would only be necessary for systems with stolen time in the DomUs AND heavy IO traffic. I wanted to know if your provider assigned more vCPUs than logical cores - like assign 4 vCPUs while only 2 logical CPUs are available in the Dom0 - that would explain "stolen", too (and is a pretty braindead idea - but possible in XEN).
    – Nils
    Jun 21 '12 at 20:55






  • 1




    The root cause of this one turned out to be that the ISP had the VM incorrectly configured. The guest was being told it had more cores than it actually did. This seemed to cause havoc with the scheduling. The ISP couldn't provide intelligent tech support, but we were able to "prove" the problem by disabling odd-numbered cores in /proc. Never a problem since.
    – mgjk
    Feb 23 '14 at 13:15












  • 1




    Virtual dedicated? In case of XEN they would need to pin dedicated cores for dedicated use in your VM. Looks like your provider has overbooked CPUs by a unfair amout. What does he say to this?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 18:56






  • 1




    How many vCPUs have you got and what type of CPU is reported in grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo|sort -u? If this really a dedicated server then there is something eating up CPU-time on the Dom0. OR they gave you more vCPUs than are available in the Dom0.
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:33






  • 1




    Unless this is a momentary outlier, it looks like your isp is lieing to you and they are, in fact, running other cpu heavy vms on this machine, or there is something configured very wrong that is causing dom0 to hog a lot of cpu time.
    – psusi
    Jun 21 '12 at 3:33






  • 1




    SuSE recommends to reserve two cores solely for the Dom0 so it can do all IO-handling without bothering other VMs. In my eyes that would only be necessary for systems with stolen time in the DomUs AND heavy IO traffic. I wanted to know if your provider assigned more vCPUs than logical cores - like assign 4 vCPUs while only 2 logical CPUs are available in the Dom0 - that would explain "stolen", too (and is a pretty braindead idea - but possible in XEN).
    – Nils
    Jun 21 '12 at 20:55






  • 1




    The root cause of this one turned out to be that the ISP had the VM incorrectly configured. The guest was being told it had more cores than it actually did. This seemed to cause havoc with the scheduling. The ISP couldn't provide intelligent tech support, but we were able to "prove" the problem by disabling odd-numbered cores in /proc. Never a problem since.
    – mgjk
    Feb 23 '14 at 13:15







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Virtual dedicated? In case of XEN they would need to pin dedicated cores for dedicated use in your VM. Looks like your provider has overbooked CPUs by a unfair amout. What does he say to this?
– Nils
Jun 20 '12 at 18:56




Virtual dedicated? In case of XEN they would need to pin dedicated cores for dedicated use in your VM. Looks like your provider has overbooked CPUs by a unfair amout. What does he say to this?
– Nils
Jun 20 '12 at 18:56




1




1




How many vCPUs have you got and what type of CPU is reported in grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo|sort -u? If this really a dedicated server then there is something eating up CPU-time on the Dom0. OR they gave you more vCPUs than are available in the Dom0.
– Nils
Jun 20 '12 at 19:33




How many vCPUs have you got and what type of CPU is reported in grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo|sort -u? If this really a dedicated server then there is something eating up CPU-time on the Dom0. OR they gave you more vCPUs than are available in the Dom0.
– Nils
Jun 20 '12 at 19:33




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Unless this is a momentary outlier, it looks like your isp is lieing to you and they are, in fact, running other cpu heavy vms on this machine, or there is something configured very wrong that is causing dom0 to hog a lot of cpu time.
– psusi
Jun 21 '12 at 3:33




Unless this is a momentary outlier, it looks like your isp is lieing to you and they are, in fact, running other cpu heavy vms on this machine, or there is something configured very wrong that is causing dom0 to hog a lot of cpu time.
– psusi
Jun 21 '12 at 3:33




1




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SuSE recommends to reserve two cores solely for the Dom0 so it can do all IO-handling without bothering other VMs. In my eyes that would only be necessary for systems with stolen time in the DomUs AND heavy IO traffic. I wanted to know if your provider assigned more vCPUs than logical cores - like assign 4 vCPUs while only 2 logical CPUs are available in the Dom0 - that would explain "stolen", too (and is a pretty braindead idea - but possible in XEN).
– Nils
Jun 21 '12 at 20:55




SuSE recommends to reserve two cores solely for the Dom0 so it can do all IO-handling without bothering other VMs. In my eyes that would only be necessary for systems with stolen time in the DomUs AND heavy IO traffic. I wanted to know if your provider assigned more vCPUs than logical cores - like assign 4 vCPUs while only 2 logical CPUs are available in the Dom0 - that would explain "stolen", too (and is a pretty braindead idea - but possible in XEN).
– Nils
Jun 21 '12 at 20:55




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1




The root cause of this one turned out to be that the ISP had the VM incorrectly configured. The guest was being told it had more cores than it actually did. This seemed to cause havoc with the scheduling. The ISP couldn't provide intelligent tech support, but we were able to "prove" the problem by disabling odd-numbered cores in /proc. Never a problem since.
– mgjk
Feb 23 '14 at 13:15




The root cause of this one turned out to be that the ISP had the VM incorrectly configured. The guest was being told it had more cores than it actually did. This seemed to cause havoc with the scheduling. The ISP couldn't provide intelligent tech support, but we were able to "prove" the problem by disabling odd-numbered cores in /proc. Never a problem since.
– mgjk
Feb 23 '14 at 13:15










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You're question is well defined, but you're not giving a lot of information about your environment, how you're currently monitoring or what graphing tools you're using. However, given that SNMP is used pretty much universally for that I'll assume that you're using it and have at least some familiarity with it.



Although (as near as I can tell) the CPU Steal time isn't currently available from snmpd, you can extend it yourself with the UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput object and exec commands.



The easiest way (that I've found) to get the steal time is from iostat. Using the following construct we can get just the steal time:



$ iostat -c | awk 'NR==4 print $5'
0.00


Therefore, append the following to your snmpd.conf:



exec cpu_steal_time /usr/bin/iostat -c | /usr/bin/awk 'NR==4 print $5'


(Alternatively you can put the command in a wrapper script and call the wrapper from inside snmpd.conf.)



Each exec call in snmpd.conf is indexed starting from 1. So if you only have a single exec statement then you'll want to poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1. If this is the 5th exec statement then poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.5, etc.



The numeric OID for UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput is .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101 so if you're at index 1 it would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1, and index 5 would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.5, etc.



You then create a graph polling that SNMPD OID of type gauge, ranging from 0–100. This should give you some pretty graphs.






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  • Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:36










  • I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
    – bahamat
    Jun 20 '12 at 21:47










  • If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
    – davide
    Nov 25 '14 at 1:51


















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sar -u might be helpful in your case. sar is normally part of the sysstat-package.






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  • I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
    – mgjk
    Jun 22 '12 at 15:27










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You're question is well defined, but you're not giving a lot of information about your environment, how you're currently monitoring or what graphing tools you're using. However, given that SNMP is used pretty much universally for that I'll assume that you're using it and have at least some familiarity with it.



Although (as near as I can tell) the CPU Steal time isn't currently available from snmpd, you can extend it yourself with the UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput object and exec commands.



The easiest way (that I've found) to get the steal time is from iostat. Using the following construct we can get just the steal time:



$ iostat -c | awk 'NR==4 print $5'
0.00


Therefore, append the following to your snmpd.conf:



exec cpu_steal_time /usr/bin/iostat -c | /usr/bin/awk 'NR==4 print $5'


(Alternatively you can put the command in a wrapper script and call the wrapper from inside snmpd.conf.)



Each exec call in snmpd.conf is indexed starting from 1. So if you only have a single exec statement then you'll want to poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1. If this is the 5th exec statement then poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.5, etc.



The numeric OID for UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput is .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101 so if you're at index 1 it would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1, and index 5 would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.5, etc.



You then create a graph polling that SNMPD OID of type gauge, ranging from 0–100. This should give you some pretty graphs.






share|improve this answer






















  • Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:36










  • I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
    – bahamat
    Jun 20 '12 at 21:47










  • If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
    – davide
    Nov 25 '14 at 1:51















11














You're question is well defined, but you're not giving a lot of information about your environment, how you're currently monitoring or what graphing tools you're using. However, given that SNMP is used pretty much universally for that I'll assume that you're using it and have at least some familiarity with it.



Although (as near as I can tell) the CPU Steal time isn't currently available from snmpd, you can extend it yourself with the UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput object and exec commands.



The easiest way (that I've found) to get the steal time is from iostat. Using the following construct we can get just the steal time:



$ iostat -c | awk 'NR==4 print $5'
0.00


Therefore, append the following to your snmpd.conf:



exec cpu_steal_time /usr/bin/iostat -c | /usr/bin/awk 'NR==4 print $5'


(Alternatively you can put the command in a wrapper script and call the wrapper from inside snmpd.conf.)



Each exec call in snmpd.conf is indexed starting from 1. So if you only have a single exec statement then you'll want to poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1. If this is the 5th exec statement then poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.5, etc.



The numeric OID for UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput is .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101 so if you're at index 1 it would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1, and index 5 would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.5, etc.



You then create a graph polling that SNMPD OID of type gauge, ranging from 0–100. This should give you some pretty graphs.






share|improve this answer






















  • Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:36










  • I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
    – bahamat
    Jun 20 '12 at 21:47










  • If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
    – davide
    Nov 25 '14 at 1:51













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You're question is well defined, but you're not giving a lot of information about your environment, how you're currently monitoring or what graphing tools you're using. However, given that SNMP is used pretty much universally for that I'll assume that you're using it and have at least some familiarity with it.



Although (as near as I can tell) the CPU Steal time isn't currently available from snmpd, you can extend it yourself with the UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput object and exec commands.



The easiest way (that I've found) to get the steal time is from iostat. Using the following construct we can get just the steal time:



$ iostat -c | awk 'NR==4 print $5'
0.00


Therefore, append the following to your snmpd.conf:



exec cpu_steal_time /usr/bin/iostat -c | /usr/bin/awk 'NR==4 print $5'


(Alternatively you can put the command in a wrapper script and call the wrapper from inside snmpd.conf.)



Each exec call in snmpd.conf is indexed starting from 1. So if you only have a single exec statement then you'll want to poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1. If this is the 5th exec statement then poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.5, etc.



The numeric OID for UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput is .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101 so if you're at index 1 it would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1, and index 5 would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.5, etc.



You then create a graph polling that SNMPD OID of type gauge, ranging from 0–100. This should give you some pretty graphs.






share|improve this answer














You're question is well defined, but you're not giving a lot of information about your environment, how you're currently monitoring or what graphing tools you're using. However, given that SNMP is used pretty much universally for that I'll assume that you're using it and have at least some familiarity with it.



Although (as near as I can tell) the CPU Steal time isn't currently available from snmpd, you can extend it yourself with the UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput object and exec commands.



The easiest way (that I've found) to get the steal time is from iostat. Using the following construct we can get just the steal time:



$ iostat -c | awk 'NR==4 print $5'
0.00


Therefore, append the following to your snmpd.conf:



exec cpu_steal_time /usr/bin/iostat -c | /usr/bin/awk 'NR==4 print $5'


(Alternatively you can put the command in a wrapper script and call the wrapper from inside snmpd.conf.)



Each exec call in snmpd.conf is indexed starting from 1. So if you only have a single exec statement then you'll want to poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1. If this is the 5th exec statement then poll UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.5, etc.



The numeric OID for UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput is .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101 so if you're at index 1 it would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1, and index 5 would be .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.5, etc.



You then create a graph polling that SNMPD OID of type gauge, ranging from 0–100. This should give you some pretty graphs.







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  • Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:36










  • I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
    – bahamat
    Jun 20 '12 at 21:47










  • If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
    – davide
    Nov 25 '14 at 1:51
















  • Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
    – Nils
    Jun 20 '12 at 19:36










  • I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
    – bahamat
    Jun 20 '12 at 21:47










  • If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
    – davide
    Nov 25 '14 at 1:51















Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
– Nils
Jun 20 '12 at 19:36




Great answer. How often will these statics be gathered? Just during poll, or is there a way like in the RMON-MIB that will record values without external poll?
– Nils
Jun 20 '12 at 19:36












I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
– bahamat
Jun 20 '12 at 21:47




I believe it would pull this each time the snmpd is queried for that OID.
– bahamat
Jun 20 '12 at 21:47












If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
– davide
Nov 25 '14 at 1:51




If iostat is not installed: top -bn1 | sed -nr '3s/.*,//gp'
– davide
Nov 25 '14 at 1:51













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sar -u might be helpful in your case. sar is normally part of the sysstat-package.






share|improve this answer




















  • I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
    – mgjk
    Jun 22 '12 at 15:27















8














sar -u might be helpful in your case. sar is normally part of the sysstat-package.






share|improve this answer




















  • I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
    – mgjk
    Jun 22 '12 at 15:27













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sar -u might be helpful in your case. sar is normally part of the sysstat-package.






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sar -u might be helpful in your case. sar is normally part of the sysstat-package.







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  • I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
    – mgjk
    Jun 22 '12 at 15:27
















  • I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
    – mgjk
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I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
– mgjk
Jun 22 '12 at 15:27




I wish I could set more than one answer as the accepted answer. Both answers have been very useful :-) Thank you!
– mgjk
Jun 22 '12 at 15:27

















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