Draw offer without executing move
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Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
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asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
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Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
rules draw
asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
acyeacye
499111
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Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
rules draw
asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
acyeacye
499111
Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
rules draw
rules draw
asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
acyeacye
499111
asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
acyeacye
499111
asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
acyeacye
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asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
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asked Dec 30 '18 at 23:01
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No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
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What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
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Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
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No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
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What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
add a comment |
No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
1,033215
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
add a comment |
No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
1,033215
No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
1,033215
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
1,033215
answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
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answered Dec 31 '18 at 0:13
AllureAllure
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What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
add a comment |
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
Dec 31 '18 at 5:14
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
Dec 31 '18 at 5:21
1
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
Dec 31 '18 at 5:43
add a comment |
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