Are “grúa” and “grulla” etymologically related?
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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".
In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?
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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".
In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".
In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?
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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".
In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?
etimología animales construccion-y-obra
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edited Nov 20 at 18:30
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asked Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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edited Nov 20 at 18:30
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asked Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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asked Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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ukemi
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
– enxaneta
Nov 19 at 14:24
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
– enxaneta
Nov 19 at 14:24
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
– enxaneta
Nov 19 at 14:24
Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
– enxaneta
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They are indeed related:
... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:
Kran en alemán,
crane en inglés,
grua en catalán,
grue en francés,
gru en italiano;
todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.
Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)
Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:
Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.
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RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
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Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
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They are indeed related:
... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:
Kran en alemán,
crane en inglés,
grua en catalán,
grue en francés,
gru en italiano;
todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.
Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)
Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:
Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.
answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
1
Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
add a comment |
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11
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They are indeed related:
... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:
Kran en alemán,
crane en inglés,
grua en catalán,
grue en francés,
gru en italiano;
todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.
Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)
Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:
Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.
answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
1
Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
add a comment |
up vote
11
down vote
accepted
up vote
11
down vote
accepted
They are indeed related:
... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:
Kran en alemán,
crane en inglés,
grua en catalán,
grue en francés,
gru en italiano;
todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.
Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)
Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:
Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.
answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
7,32921649
They are indeed related:
... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:
Kran en alemán,
crane en inglés,
grua en catalán,
grue en francés,
gru en italiano;
todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.
Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)
Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:
Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.
answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
7,32921649
edited Nov 19 at 14:02
answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
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answered Nov 19 at 13:40
ukemi
7,32921649
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RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
1
Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
add a comment |
1
RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
1
Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
1
1
RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
Nov 19 at 13:57
1
1
Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
Nov 19 at 16:46
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
– enxaneta
Nov 19 at 14:24