What does 弟ã¯å‹ã ã¡ã®大ãÂÂã„ãÂÂるã¾ã§å¦校ã«行ãÂÂã¾ã™ properly translate to?
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I was asked to translate the following sentence:
弟ã¯å‹ã ã¡ã®大ãÂÂã„ãÂÂるã¾ã§å¦校ã«行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
I first split it up (in my head) so it looks easier to read, whilst recognising the particles.
弟㯠å‹ã ã¡ã® 大ãÂÂã„ ãÂÂるã¾ã§ å¦校ã« 行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
And then this was easy... until I stumbled across a slight problem; I know that this must be one of the following sentences when translated, but I don't know which one.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in my friend's big car.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in his friend's big car.
How do I tell which sentence is the correct one? (I think it's the first one, but am not too sure.)
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I was asked to translate the following sentence:
弟ã¯å‹ã ã¡ã®大ãÂÂã„ãÂÂるã¾ã§å¦校ã«行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
I first split it up (in my head) so it looks easier to read, whilst recognising the particles.
弟㯠å‹ã ã¡ã® 大ãÂÂã„ ãÂÂるã¾ã§ å¦校ã« 行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
And then this was easy... until I stumbled across a slight problem; I know that this must be one of the following sentences when translated, but I don't know which one.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in my friend's big car.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in his friend's big car.
How do I tell which sentence is the correct one? (I think it's the first one, but am not too sure.)
grammar words particles syntax sentence
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行ãÂÂã¾ã™went<-- 時制ãŒ・・・
– Chocolate
Sep 3 at 3:05
@Chocolate Ahhh, thanks for that. It should be "goes to and not went to" if I understand you correctly; and it is correct, anyway, because I remember my teacher talking about that, so thanks!
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Sep 3 at 3:13
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I was asked to translate the following sentence:
弟ã¯å‹ã ã¡ã®大ãÂÂã„ãÂÂるã¾ã§å¦校ã«行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
I first split it up (in my head) so it looks easier to read, whilst recognising the particles.
弟㯠å‹ã ã¡ã® 大ãÂÂã„ ãÂÂるã¾ã§ å¦校ã« 行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
And then this was easy... until I stumbled across a slight problem; I know that this must be one of the following sentences when translated, but I don't know which one.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in my friend's big car.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in his friend's big car.
How do I tell which sentence is the correct one? (I think it's the first one, but am not too sure.)
grammar words particles syntax sentence
asked Sep 3 at 3:01
user477343
17512
I was asked to translate the following sentence:
弟ã¯å‹ã ã¡ã®大ãÂÂã„ãÂÂるã¾ã§å¦校ã«行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
I first split it up (in my head) so it looks easier to read, whilst recognising the particles.
弟㯠å‹ã ã¡ã® 大ãÂÂã„ ãÂÂるã¾ã§ å¦校ã« 行ãÂÂã¾ã™。
And then this was easy... until I stumbled across a slight problem; I know that this must be one of the following sentences when translated, but I don't know which one.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in my friend's big car.
- My younger brother
wentgoes to school in his friend's big car.
How do I tell which sentence is the correct one? (I think it's the first one, but am not too sure.)
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行ãÂÂã¾ã™went<-- 時制ãŒ・・・
– Chocolate
Sep 3 at 3:05
@Chocolate Ahhh, thanks for that. It should be "goes to and not went to" if I understand you correctly; and it is correct, anyway, because I remember my teacher talking about that, so thanks!
– user477343
Sep 3 at 3:13
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行ãÂÂã¾ã™went<-- 時制ãŒ・・・
– Chocolate
Sep 3 at 3:05
@Chocolate Ahhh, thanks for that. It should be "goes to and not went to" if I understand you correctly; and it is correct, anyway, because I remember my teacher talking about that, so thanks!
– user477343
Sep 3 at 3:13
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行ãÂÂã¾ã™ went <-- 時制ãŒ・・・– Chocolate
Sep 3 at 3:05
行ãÂÂã¾ã™ went <-- 時制ãŒ・・・– Chocolate
Sep 3 at 3:05
@Chocolate Ahhh, thanks for that. It should be "goes to and not went to" if I understand you correctly; and it is correct, anyway, because I remember my teacher talking about that, so thanks!
– user477343
Sep 3 at 3:13
@Chocolate Ahhh, thanks for that. It should be "goes to and not went to" if I understand you correctly; and it is correct, anyway, because I remember my teacher talking about that, so thanks!
– user477343
Sep 3 at 3:13
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The topic particle "ã¯" leaves some room for interpretation, but in general, everything that follows it--and is not specifically indicated otherwise--is in relation to the "thing" (could be person, place, activity, etc.) indicated by the "ã¯".
With that in mind, the correct translation is the second one (My younger brother goes to school in his friend's big car.) because the question of whose "friend" is it? is answered by the overall topic of the sentence (the younger brother).
But that's just my two cents.
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
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Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
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There is no way to know the sentence is ambiguous, without context it could mean either way.
But, taken out of context, the first interpretation should be "his friend".
弟 is the topic of the sentence, so everything in the sentence must be about 弟.
So the very first assumption is that å‹ã ã¡ refers to a friend of 弟.
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Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
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2 Answers
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
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5
down vote
accepted
The topic particle "ã¯" leaves some room for interpretation, but in general, everything that follows it--and is not specifically indicated otherwise--is in relation to the "thing" (could be person, place, activity, etc.) indicated by the "ã¯".
With that in mind, the correct translation is the second one (My younger brother goes to school in his friend's big car.) because the question of whose "friend" is it? is answered by the overall topic of the sentence (the younger brother).
But that's just my two cents.
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
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Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
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up vote
5
down vote
accepted
The topic particle "ã¯" leaves some room for interpretation, but in general, everything that follows it--and is not specifically indicated otherwise--is in relation to the "thing" (could be person, place, activity, etc.) indicated by the "ã¯".
With that in mind, the correct translation is the second one (My younger brother goes to school in his friend's big car.) because the question of whose "friend" is it? is answered by the overall topic of the sentence (the younger brother).
But that's just my two cents.
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
661
Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
The topic particle "ã¯" leaves some room for interpretation, but in general, everything that follows it--and is not specifically indicated otherwise--is in relation to the "thing" (could be person, place, activity, etc.) indicated by the "ã¯".
With that in mind, the correct translation is the second one (My younger brother goes to school in his friend's big car.) because the question of whose "friend" is it? is answered by the overall topic of the sentence (the younger brother).
But that's just my two cents.
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
661
The topic particle "ã¯" leaves some room for interpretation, but in general, everything that follows it--and is not specifically indicated otherwise--is in relation to the "thing" (could be person, place, activity, etc.) indicated by the "ã¯".
With that in mind, the correct translation is the second one (My younger brother goes to school in his friend's big car.) because the question of whose "friend" is it? is answered by the overall topic of the sentence (the younger brother).
But that's just my two cents.
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
661
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
661
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
661
answered Sep 3 at 4:48
Lukas
661
661
Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
Hello, @Lukas, and welcome to the Japanese Stack Exchange! I intended on sharing your opinion to my teacher and check whether or not it is correct, but I went away on a school camp and now it is Friday. Would you enjoy waiting an entire weekend for this answer to be accepted? I don't know. So considering the amount of upvotes, I will take your word for it; and so... congratulations! Your first answer will be your first accepted! Well done! :D
– user477343
Sep 7 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
There is no way to know the sentence is ambiguous, without context it could mean either way.
But, taken out of context, the first interpretation should be "his friend".
弟 is the topic of the sentence, so everything in the sentence must be about 弟.
So the very first assumption is that å‹ã ã¡ refers to a friend of 弟.
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
– user477343
yesterday
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up vote
1
down vote
There is no way to know the sentence is ambiguous, without context it could mean either way.
But, taken out of context, the first interpretation should be "his friend".
弟 is the topic of the sentence, so everything in the sentence must be about 弟.
So the very first assumption is that å‹ã ã¡ refers to a friend of 弟.
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
– user477343
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
There is no way to know the sentence is ambiguous, without context it could mean either way.
But, taken out of context, the first interpretation should be "his friend".
弟 is the topic of the sentence, so everything in the sentence must be about 弟.
So the very first assumption is that å‹ã ã¡ refers to a friend of 弟.
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
There is no way to know the sentence is ambiguous, without context it could mean either way.
But, taken out of context, the first interpretation should be "his friend".
弟 is the topic of the sentence, so everything in the sentence must be about 弟.
So the very first assumption is that å‹ã ã¡ refers to a friend of 弟.
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
answered yesterday
hisao m
2,67126
2,67126
Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
– user477343
yesterday
add a comment |Â
Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
– user477343
yesterday
Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
– user477343
yesterday
Thank you for your answer. @Lukas 's answer essentially asserts the same idea, but this is still a good answer nonetheless. (+1) :D
– user477343
yesterday
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行ãÂÂã¾ã™went<-- 時制ãŒ・・・– Chocolate
Sep 3 at 3:05
@Chocolate Ahhh, thanks for that. It should be "goes to and not went to" if I understand you correctly; and it is correct, anyway, because I remember my teacher talking about that, so thanks!
– user477343
Sep 3 at 3:13