What ability modifier is used when an NPC uses Innate Spellcasting?

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The Uthgardt Shaman (in the Storm King's Thunder adventure) has an "Innate Spellcasting" ability, which among other things lets her cast the Prayer of Healing spell once per day. That spell includes the creature's "spellcasting ability modifier" in the amount of hit points to heal. But I can't find anywhere that says what that ability modifier would be. How do I know which ability modifier is being referred to when a creature uses its Innate Spellcasting?










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    The Uthgardt Shaman (in the Storm King's Thunder adventure) has an "Innate Spellcasting" ability, which among other things lets her cast the Prayer of Healing spell once per day. That spell includes the creature's "spellcasting ability modifier" in the amount of hit points to heal. But I can't find anywhere that says what that ability modifier would be. How do I know which ability modifier is being referred to when a creature uses its Innate Spellcasting?










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      The Uthgardt Shaman (in the Storm King's Thunder adventure) has an "Innate Spellcasting" ability, which among other things lets her cast the Prayer of Healing spell once per day. That spell includes the creature's "spellcasting ability modifier" in the amount of hit points to heal. But I can't find anywhere that says what that ability modifier would be. How do I know which ability modifier is being referred to when a creature uses its Innate Spellcasting?










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      The Uthgardt Shaman (in the Storm King's Thunder adventure) has an "Innate Spellcasting" ability, which among other things lets her cast the Prayer of Healing spell once per day. That spell includes the creature's "spellcasting ability modifier" in the amount of hit points to heal. But I can't find anywhere that says what that ability modifier would be. How do I know which ability modifier is being referred to when a creature uses its Innate Spellcasting?







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          It is normally written in the stat block.



          The Uthgardt Shaman's Spellcasting Ability is Wisdom.



          For example, you can see that Djinni has innate spellcasting as well. The spellcasting ability and other relevant information (DC, bonus to hit) are written before the list of spells available.



          The spellcasting ability information is missing in the Uthgardt Shaman's stat block but the +4 bonus to hit (or 12 spell save DC) can give you the required information. Looking at the skills, the Shaman has a +2 proficiency bonus. Reversing the calculation for spell hit bonus will show their spellcasting ability modifier: +4 to hit with spell attacks equaling +2 proficiency and +2 spellcasting ability modifier.



          If there was only the spell save DC the logic would be the same. DC calculation for spells is 8+proficiency+ability. Reversing the 12 DC from Shaman's stat block you get: 8+2(proficiency)+2(ability modifier)




          You can also confirm a monster's proficiency bonus on the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table in the DMG p.274.






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            @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
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            @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
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            And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
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            @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
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          It is normally written in the stat block.



          The Uthgardt Shaman's Spellcasting Ability is Wisdom.



          For example, you can see that Djinni has innate spellcasting as well. The spellcasting ability and other relevant information (DC, bonus to hit) are written before the list of spells available.



          The spellcasting ability information is missing in the Uthgardt Shaman's stat block but the +4 bonus to hit (or 12 spell save DC) can give you the required information. Looking at the skills, the Shaman has a +2 proficiency bonus. Reversing the calculation for spell hit bonus will show their spellcasting ability modifier: +4 to hit with spell attacks equaling +2 proficiency and +2 spellcasting ability modifier.



          If there was only the spell save DC the logic would be the same. DC calculation for spells is 8+proficiency+ability. Reversing the 12 DC from Shaman's stat block you get: 8+2(proficiency)+2(ability modifier)




          You can also confirm a monster's proficiency bonus on the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table in the DMG p.274.






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            Can you link to your source for that quote?
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            @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
            – FenrirG
            Sep 3 at 14:14






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            @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:55







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            And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:58






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            @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 15:05














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          It is normally written in the stat block.



          The Uthgardt Shaman's Spellcasting Ability is Wisdom.



          For example, you can see that Djinni has innate spellcasting as well. The spellcasting ability and other relevant information (DC, bonus to hit) are written before the list of spells available.



          The spellcasting ability information is missing in the Uthgardt Shaman's stat block but the +4 bonus to hit (or 12 spell save DC) can give you the required information. Looking at the skills, the Shaman has a +2 proficiency bonus. Reversing the calculation for spell hit bonus will show their spellcasting ability modifier: +4 to hit with spell attacks equaling +2 proficiency and +2 spellcasting ability modifier.



          If there was only the spell save DC the logic would be the same. DC calculation for spells is 8+proficiency+ability. Reversing the 12 DC from Shaman's stat block you get: 8+2(proficiency)+2(ability modifier)




          You can also confirm a monster's proficiency bonus on the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table in the DMG p.274.






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            Can you link to your source for that quote?
            – NautArch
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            @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
            – FenrirG
            Sep 3 at 14:14






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            @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:55







          • 1




            And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:58






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            @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 15:05












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          It is normally written in the stat block.



          The Uthgardt Shaman's Spellcasting Ability is Wisdom.



          For example, you can see that Djinni has innate spellcasting as well. The spellcasting ability and other relevant information (DC, bonus to hit) are written before the list of spells available.



          The spellcasting ability information is missing in the Uthgardt Shaman's stat block but the +4 bonus to hit (or 12 spell save DC) can give you the required information. Looking at the skills, the Shaman has a +2 proficiency bonus. Reversing the calculation for spell hit bonus will show their spellcasting ability modifier: +4 to hit with spell attacks equaling +2 proficiency and +2 spellcasting ability modifier.



          If there was only the spell save DC the logic would be the same. DC calculation for spells is 8+proficiency+ability. Reversing the 12 DC from Shaman's stat block you get: 8+2(proficiency)+2(ability modifier)




          You can also confirm a monster's proficiency bonus on the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table in the DMG p.274.






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          It is normally written in the stat block.



          The Uthgardt Shaman's Spellcasting Ability is Wisdom.



          For example, you can see that Djinni has innate spellcasting as well. The spellcasting ability and other relevant information (DC, bonus to hit) are written before the list of spells available.



          The spellcasting ability information is missing in the Uthgardt Shaman's stat block but the +4 bonus to hit (or 12 spell save DC) can give you the required information. Looking at the skills, the Shaman has a +2 proficiency bonus. Reversing the calculation for spell hit bonus will show their spellcasting ability modifier: +4 to hit with spell attacks equaling +2 proficiency and +2 spellcasting ability modifier.



          If there was only the spell save DC the logic would be the same. DC calculation for spells is 8+proficiency+ability. Reversing the 12 DC from Shaman's stat block you get: 8+2(proficiency)+2(ability modifier)




          You can also confirm a monster's proficiency bonus on the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table in the DMG p.274.







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            Can you link to your source for that quote?
            – NautArch
            Sep 3 at 12:41






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            @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
            – FenrirG
            Sep 3 at 14:14






          • 1




            @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:55







          • 1




            And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:58






          • 1




            @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 15:05












          • 1




            Can you link to your source for that quote?
            – NautArch
            Sep 3 at 12:41






          • 1




            @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
            – FenrirG
            Sep 3 at 14:14






          • 1




            @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:55







          • 1




            And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 14:58






          • 1




            @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
            – Jack
            Sep 3 at 15:05







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          Can you link to your source for that quote?
          – NautArch
          Sep 3 at 12:41




          Can you link to your source for that quote?
          – NautArch
          Sep 3 at 12:41




          1




          1




          @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
          – FenrirG
          Sep 3 at 14:14




          @NautArch the problem is that it does not exist. I've already editted my answer to not rely on that.
          – FenrirG
          Sep 3 at 14:14




          1




          1




          @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
          – Jack
          Sep 3 at 14:55





          @FenrirG - The statblock on D&D Beyond can be found here: dndbeyond.com/monsters/uthgardt-shaman. It cites SKT as its source. It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
          – Jack
          Sep 3 at 14:55





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          1




          And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
          – Jack
          Sep 3 at 14:58




          And fwiw, the Lizardfolk Shaman from the MM does cite that it uses Wisdom as its spellcasting ability.
          – Jack
          Sep 3 at 14:58




          1




          1




          @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
          – Jack
          Sep 3 at 15:05




          @FenrirG It does not say what the spellcasting ability is.
          – Jack
          Sep 3 at 15:05

















           

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