Long time spent between grub2 menu, before kernel boot
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I installed a minimal ubuntu (xubuntu-core). It works well, but boot is a bit too slow.
Right after I make my choice in grub, the screen turns black and after around 15 seconds I see the kernel boot messages, starting with [ 0.028000]
. So what's it doing in between, I I.e. after grub, but before the boot messages. And how can I find out?
I remember in an old installation, grub produced output itself (and maybe even a log file?) is there a way to make grub more verbose?
EDIT: systemd-bootchart tells me that the display manager is up after 8 seconds. However, from the moment i made my choice in grub roughly 25 seconds pass.
The bit I'm choosing in grub is pretty vanilla:
menuentry 'Ubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c'
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_gpt
insmod ext2
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
fi
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-15-generic root=UUID=29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.18.0-15-generic
boot grub2 performance
add a comment |
I installed a minimal ubuntu (xubuntu-core). It works well, but boot is a bit too slow.
Right after I make my choice in grub, the screen turns black and after around 15 seconds I see the kernel boot messages, starting with [ 0.028000]
. So what's it doing in between, I I.e. after grub, but before the boot messages. And how can I find out?
I remember in an old installation, grub produced output itself (and maybe even a log file?) is there a way to make grub more verbose?
EDIT: systemd-bootchart tells me that the display manager is up after 8 seconds. However, from the moment i made my choice in grub roughly 25 seconds pass.
The bit I'm choosing in grub is pretty vanilla:
menuentry 'Ubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c'
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_gpt
insmod ext2
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
fi
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-15-generic root=UUID=29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.18.0-15-generic
boot grub2 performance
You passquiet
flag to the kernel so no wonder there are not so many messages. And to see which service takes long time to start runsystemd-analyze blame
(I'm assuming you are using systemd, as a ubuntu user).
– jimmij
Feb 10 at 23:34
hey, yes I am aware of that (and have run it without). the point is that it spends a lot of time even before the first dmesg entry is generated
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:43
add a comment |
I installed a minimal ubuntu (xubuntu-core). It works well, but boot is a bit too slow.
Right after I make my choice in grub, the screen turns black and after around 15 seconds I see the kernel boot messages, starting with [ 0.028000]
. So what's it doing in between, I I.e. after grub, but before the boot messages. And how can I find out?
I remember in an old installation, grub produced output itself (and maybe even a log file?) is there a way to make grub more verbose?
EDIT: systemd-bootchart tells me that the display manager is up after 8 seconds. However, from the moment i made my choice in grub roughly 25 seconds pass.
The bit I'm choosing in grub is pretty vanilla:
menuentry 'Ubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c'
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_gpt
insmod ext2
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
fi
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-15-generic root=UUID=29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.18.0-15-generic
boot grub2 performance
I installed a minimal ubuntu (xubuntu-core). It works well, but boot is a bit too slow.
Right after I make my choice in grub, the screen turns black and after around 15 seconds I see the kernel boot messages, starting with [ 0.028000]
. So what's it doing in between, I I.e. after grub, but before the boot messages. And how can I find out?
I remember in an old installation, grub produced output itself (and maybe even a log file?) is there a way to make grub more verbose?
EDIT: systemd-bootchart tells me that the display manager is up after 8 seconds. However, from the moment i made my choice in grub roughly 25 seconds pass.
The bit I'm choosing in grub is pretty vanilla:
menuentry 'Ubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c'
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_gpt
insmod ext2
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c
fi
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-15-generic root=UUID=29414df5-b194-46a5-ae12-dac11924ae3c ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.18.0-15-generic
boot grub2 performance
boot grub2 performance
edited Feb 11 at 9:43
sheß
asked Feb 10 at 23:16
sheßsheß
1065
1065
You passquiet
flag to the kernel so no wonder there are not so many messages. And to see which service takes long time to start runsystemd-analyze blame
(I'm assuming you are using systemd, as a ubuntu user).
– jimmij
Feb 10 at 23:34
hey, yes I am aware of that (and have run it without). the point is that it spends a lot of time even before the first dmesg entry is generated
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:43
add a comment |
You passquiet
flag to the kernel so no wonder there are not so many messages. And to see which service takes long time to start runsystemd-analyze blame
(I'm assuming you are using systemd, as a ubuntu user).
– jimmij
Feb 10 at 23:34
hey, yes I am aware of that (and have run it without). the point is that it spends a lot of time even before the first dmesg entry is generated
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:43
You pass
quiet
flag to the kernel so no wonder there are not so many messages. And to see which service takes long time to start run systemd-analyze blame
(I'm assuming you are using systemd, as a ubuntu user).– jimmij
Feb 10 at 23:34
You pass
quiet
flag to the kernel so no wonder there are not so many messages. And to see which service takes long time to start run systemd-analyze blame
(I'm assuming you are using systemd, as a ubuntu user).– jimmij
Feb 10 at 23:34
hey, yes I am aware of that (and have run it without). the point is that it spends a lot of time even before the first dmesg entry is generated
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:43
hey, yes I am aware of that (and have run it without). the point is that it spends a lot of time even before the first dmesg entry is generated
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:43
add a comment |
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The kernel is setting up all kinds of stuff (CPUs, memory, other low-level platform components such as interrupt controllers) in the early parts of the boot and the relevant messages are being recorded all the time. The timestamps will be zero on all the messages up to the point where a clocksource is initialized. Thus even if there's a lengthy delay at some point during the early boot, you won't see it from the timestamps. Tools like systemd-bootchart
just visualize the timestamp data, so they won't help here either.
You need to take a close look at the dmesg log from the early stages to see if there's anything going wrong. Unless there's a misbehaving platform component, broken interrupt delivery or something, the delays could perhaps come from steps like gathering entropy for KASLR. You can try disabling that using the nokaslr
boot option and see if it helps.
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome.nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication
– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
add a comment |
Run dmesg
? Another possibility to debug boot times is systemd-bootchart (or bootchart2), a nice tool that visualizes the boot process as SVG when init=/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart
is passed to the kernel.
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
1
Hmm, my messages start with[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at[ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
1
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
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The kernel is setting up all kinds of stuff (CPUs, memory, other low-level platform components such as interrupt controllers) in the early parts of the boot and the relevant messages are being recorded all the time. The timestamps will be zero on all the messages up to the point where a clocksource is initialized. Thus even if there's a lengthy delay at some point during the early boot, you won't see it from the timestamps. Tools like systemd-bootchart
just visualize the timestamp data, so they won't help here either.
You need to take a close look at the dmesg log from the early stages to see if there's anything going wrong. Unless there's a misbehaving platform component, broken interrupt delivery or something, the delays could perhaps come from steps like gathering entropy for KASLR. You can try disabling that using the nokaslr
boot option and see if it helps.
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome.nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication
– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
add a comment |
The kernel is setting up all kinds of stuff (CPUs, memory, other low-level platform components such as interrupt controllers) in the early parts of the boot and the relevant messages are being recorded all the time. The timestamps will be zero on all the messages up to the point where a clocksource is initialized. Thus even if there's a lengthy delay at some point during the early boot, you won't see it from the timestamps. Tools like systemd-bootchart
just visualize the timestamp data, so they won't help here either.
You need to take a close look at the dmesg log from the early stages to see if there's anything going wrong. Unless there's a misbehaving platform component, broken interrupt delivery or something, the delays could perhaps come from steps like gathering entropy for KASLR. You can try disabling that using the nokaslr
boot option and see if it helps.
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome.nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication
– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
add a comment |
The kernel is setting up all kinds of stuff (CPUs, memory, other low-level platform components such as interrupt controllers) in the early parts of the boot and the relevant messages are being recorded all the time. The timestamps will be zero on all the messages up to the point where a clocksource is initialized. Thus even if there's a lengthy delay at some point during the early boot, you won't see it from the timestamps. Tools like systemd-bootchart
just visualize the timestamp data, so they won't help here either.
You need to take a close look at the dmesg log from the early stages to see if there's anything going wrong. Unless there's a misbehaving platform component, broken interrupt delivery or something, the delays could perhaps come from steps like gathering entropy for KASLR. You can try disabling that using the nokaslr
boot option and see if it helps.
The kernel is setting up all kinds of stuff (CPUs, memory, other low-level platform components such as interrupt controllers) in the early parts of the boot and the relevant messages are being recorded all the time. The timestamps will be zero on all the messages up to the point where a clocksource is initialized. Thus even if there's a lengthy delay at some point during the early boot, you won't see it from the timestamps. Tools like systemd-bootchart
just visualize the timestamp data, so they won't help here either.
You need to take a close look at the dmesg log from the early stages to see if there's anything going wrong. Unless there's a misbehaving platform component, broken interrupt delivery or something, the delays could perhaps come from steps like gathering entropy for KASLR. You can try disabling that using the nokaslr
boot option and see if it helps.
answered Feb 27 at 13:59
TooTeaTooTea
734110
734110
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome.nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication
– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
add a comment |
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome.nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication
– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those
0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome. nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
Thanks. I believe there's nothing wrong within all those
0.0000
messages, based on what I see in dmesg, there are rather few (a few lines, posted here: pastebin.com/JEWbfqGV) and nothing that strikes as worrisome. nokaslr
didn't have a noticeable effect either. I still believe it's grub. But I have to admit I am not an expert on the subject matter. But, for example I noticed that the power button still immediately shuts down the PC during the black-screen delay. Which is probably not good, but might be an indication– sheß
Feb 28 at 14:27
add a comment |
Run dmesg
? Another possibility to debug boot times is systemd-bootchart (or bootchart2), a nice tool that visualizes the boot process as SVG when init=/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart
is passed to the kernel.
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
1
Hmm, my messages start with[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at[ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
1
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
add a comment |
Run dmesg
? Another possibility to debug boot times is systemd-bootchart (or bootchart2), a nice tool that visualizes the boot process as SVG when init=/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart
is passed to the kernel.
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
1
Hmm, my messages start with[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at[ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
1
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
add a comment |
Run dmesg
? Another possibility to debug boot times is systemd-bootchart (or bootchart2), a nice tool that visualizes the boot process as SVG when init=/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart
is passed to the kernel.
Run dmesg
? Another possibility to debug boot times is systemd-bootchart (or bootchart2), a nice tool that visualizes the boot process as SVG when init=/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart
is passed to the kernel.
answered Feb 11 at 0:05
FreddyFreddy
1,2149
1,2149
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
1
Hmm, my messages start with[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at[ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
1
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
add a comment |
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
1
Hmm, my messages start with[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at[ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
1
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
yes, i did run dmesg. the issue is the time that is spent before the first dmesg entry. I will try bootchart, but I assume it's grub or the initrd
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:44
1
1
Hmm, my messages start with
[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at [ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
Hmm, my messages start with
[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64...
and initrd stuff is a lot later at [ 0.383459] Unpacking initramfs...
.– Freddy
Feb 11 at 0:58
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
I, see, well mine also start with 0.00000 when i remove the quiet, so I guess it's not the initrd Mine end at 9.263542 but overall my boot process takes like 25 seconds, which is why i think there the black screen after grub is before the kernel messages start recording
– sheß
Feb 11 at 1:01
1
1
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
Yes, the black screen should be a matter of some milliseconds. Hope you can find anything with bootchart, but I guess logging is starting too late.
– Freddy
Feb 11 at 1:11
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flag to the kernel so no wonder there are not so many messages. And to see which service takes long time to start runsystemd-analyze blame
(I'm assuming you are using systemd, as a ubuntu user).– jimmij
Feb 10 at 23:34
hey, yes I am aware of that (and have run it without). the point is that it spends a lot of time even before the first dmesg entry is generated
– sheß
Feb 11 at 0:43