How would you model a pyramid pattern?

I’m trying to model this kettle with a pyramid pattern on the lower side of the kettle. The problem that I am facing is that I have a Subdivision Surface modifier on the object to give it that smooth round look. If I try to model each individual pyramid, the Subsurf smooths out the pyramid.

What is the best way of achieving this look?

kettle model

kettle photograph

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What is the best way of achieving this look?

kettle model

kettle photograph

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What is the best way of achieving this look?

kettle model

kettle photograph

edited Dec 11 at 13:55

Martin Z

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asked Dec 11 at 12:23

Andrew Lee

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What is the best way of achieving this look?

kettle model

kettle photograph

modeling modifiers subdivision-surface

edited Dec 11 at 13:55

Martin Z

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asked Dec 11 at 12:23

Andrew Lee

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edited Dec 11 at 13:55

Martin Z

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asked Dec 11 at 12:23

Andrew Lee

362

edited Dec 11 at 13:55

Martin Z

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edited Dec 11 at 13:55

Martin Z

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edited Dec 11 at 13:55

Martin Z

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asked Dec 11 at 12:23

Andrew Lee

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asked Dec 11 at 12:23

Andrew Lee

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asked Dec 11 at 12:23

Andrew Lee

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You can model the pyramids either scaling extruded individual faces to 0 and then removing doubles(w->r), or you could poke the faces(alt+p) and then select the middle vertices by the amount of adjacent faces or connecting edges(shift+g menu) and use Shrink/Flatten(alt+s) to move them outwards in the direction the surface is facing. You could then grow selection(ctrl++) and bevel(ctrl+b) the edges so they remain sharp(ish) after Subdivision Surface modifier. You could crease the edges(shift+e) instead of beveling to have them completely sharp with the Subsurf, but that would be a bit unrealistic since edges are rarely completely sharp.
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The most direct method is to just use poke faces.

If they are not extruding much and you don't need a close-up shot, it might be a better idea to do it with a normal map.

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

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Edit mode:
Enable face select

Select a ring of faces by having cursor in between adjacent face

enter image description here

Separate by selection
enter image description here

Poke

Object mode:
Select new object

Edit mode:

Select all
enter image description here

inset
Select individual in tool properties

enter image description here

Scale
Drag outward
enter image description here

Object mode:

Parent new object to original

Adjust settings / remove subsurf modifier on child object
enter image description here

edited Dec 11 at 15:43

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

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This answer does not seem to address the issue with Subdivision Surface modifier described in the question.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 13:56

It does as separated pyramids are not gonna be smoothed with the rest. And that's what the guy wants. Can't you put two and two together? Now, kindly upvote me please.
– Lukasz-40sth
Dec 11 at 14:09

You will have a surface full of holes then. The differences between subdivided and lower detail parts tend to be visible. That does not seem like a very good solution.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 14:29

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You might consider separating the geometry into two meshes.

One mesh keeps the subdivision surface (although you might have to crease it near the edges that got separated).

The other mesh applies the subdivision surface modifier, and then you use the Poke Faces tactic suggested by the other posters.

Alternately, increase the Crease factor of the edges of the pyramids so that the subdivision surface does not curve them at all.

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

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Use Smooth Vertex tool on selected vertices. Or separate, by selection, pyramids, that are poked faces made with Alt+P ,and give the rest Smooth shading (Tools).

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edited Dec 11 at 15:28

answered Dec 11 at 15:13

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edited Dec 11 at 15:28

answered Dec 11 at 15:13

Martin Z

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edited Dec 11 at 15:28

answered Dec 11 at 15:13

Martin Z

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edited Dec 11 at 15:28

answered Dec 11 at 15:13

Martin Z

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edited Dec 11 at 15:28

answered Dec 11 at 15:13

Martin Z

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answered Dec 11 at 15:13

Martin Z

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The most direct method is to just use poke faces.

If they are not extruding much and you don't need a close-up shot, it might be a better idea to do it with a normal map.

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

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The most direct method is to just use poke faces.

If they are not extruding much and you don't need a close-up shot, it might be a better idea to do it with a normal map.

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

1111

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The most direct method is to just use poke faces.

If they are not extruding much and you don't need a close-up shot, it might be a better idea to do it with a normal map.

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

1111

The most direct method is to just use poke faces.

If they are not extruding much and you don't need a close-up shot, it might be a better idea to do it with a normal map.

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

1111

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

1111

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

1111

answered Dec 11 at 17:45

Federico

1111

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Edit mode:
Enable face select

Select a ring of faces by having cursor in between adjacent face

enter image description here

Separate by selection
enter image description here

Poke

Object mode:
Select new object

Edit mode:

Select all
enter image description here

inset
Select individual in tool properties

enter image description here

Scale
Drag outward
enter image description here

Object mode:

Parent new object to original

Adjust settings / remove subsurf modifier on child object
enter image description here

edited Dec 11 at 15:43

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

1

This answer does not seem to address the issue with Subdivision Surface modifier described in the question.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 13:56

It does as separated pyramids are not gonna be smoothed with the rest. And that's what the guy wants. Can't you put two and two together? Now, kindly upvote me please.
– Lukasz-40sth
Dec 11 at 14:09

You will have a surface full of holes then. The differences between subdivided and lower detail parts tend to be visible. That does not seem like a very good solution.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 14:29

add a comment |

Edit mode:
Enable face select

Select a ring of faces by having cursor in between adjacent face

enter image description here

Separate by selection
enter image description here

Poke

Object mode:
Select new object

Edit mode:

Select all
enter image description here

inset
Select individual in tool properties

enter image description here

Scale
Drag outward
enter image description here

Object mode:

Parent new object to original

Adjust settings / remove subsurf modifier on child object
enter image description here

edited Dec 11 at 15:43

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

1

This answer does not seem to address the issue with Subdivision Surface modifier described in the question.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 13:56

It does as separated pyramids are not gonna be smoothed with the rest. And that's what the guy wants. Can't you put two and two together? Now, kindly upvote me please.
– Lukasz-40sth
Dec 11 at 14:09

You will have a surface full of holes then. The differences between subdivided and lower detail parts tend to be visible. That does not seem like a very good solution.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 14:29

add a comment |

Edit mode:
Enable face select

Select a ring of faces by having cursor in between adjacent face

enter image description here

Separate by selection
enter image description here

Poke

Object mode:
Select new object

Edit mode:

Select all
enter image description here

inset
Select individual in tool properties

enter image description here

Scale
Drag outward
enter image description here

Object mode:

Parent new object to original

Adjust settings / remove subsurf modifier on child object
enter image description here

edited Dec 11 at 15:43

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

Edit mode:
Enable face select

Select a ring of faces by having cursor in between adjacent face

enter image description here

Separate by selection
enter image description here

Poke

Object mode:
Select new object

Edit mode:

Select all
enter image description here

inset
Select individual in tool properties

enter image description here

Scale
Drag outward
enter image description here

Object mode:

Parent new object to original

Adjust settings / remove subsurf modifier on child object
enter image description here

edited Dec 11 at 15:43

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

edited Dec 11 at 15:43

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

answered Dec 11 at 12:59

Ratt

41638

1

This answer does not seem to address the issue with Subdivision Surface modifier described in the question.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 13:56

It does as separated pyramids are not gonna be smoothed with the rest. And that's what the guy wants. Can't you put two and two together? Now, kindly upvote me please.
– Lukasz-40sth
Dec 11 at 14:09

You will have a surface full of holes then. The differences between subdivided and lower detail parts tend to be visible. That does not seem like a very good solution.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 14:29

add a comment |

1

This answer does not seem to address the issue with Subdivision Surface modifier described in the question.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 13:56

It does as separated pyramids are not gonna be smoothed with the rest. And that's what the guy wants. Can't you put two and two together? Now, kindly upvote me please.
– Lukasz-40sth
Dec 11 at 14:09

You will have a surface full of holes then. The differences between subdivided and lower detail parts tend to be visible. That does not seem like a very good solution.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 14:29

This answer does not seem to address the issue with Subdivision Surface modifier described in the question.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 13:56

It does as separated pyramids are not gonna be smoothed with the rest. And that's what the guy wants. Can't you put two and two together? Now, kindly upvote me please.
– Lukasz-40sth
Dec 11 at 14:09

You will have a surface full of holes then. The differences between subdivided and lower detail parts tend to be visible. That does not seem like a very good solution.
– Martin Z
Dec 11 at 14:29

add a comment |

You might consider separating the geometry into two meshes.

One mesh keeps the subdivision surface (although you might have to crease it near the edges that got separated).

The other mesh applies the subdivision surface modifier, and then you use the Poke Faces tactic suggested by the other posters.

Alternately, increase the Crease factor of the edges of the pyramids so that the subdivision surface does not curve them at all.

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

add a comment |

You might consider separating the geometry into two meshes.

One mesh keeps the subdivision surface (although you might have to crease it near the edges that got separated).

The other mesh applies the subdivision surface modifier, and then you use the Poke Faces tactic suggested by the other posters.

Alternately, increase the Crease factor of the edges of the pyramids so that the subdivision surface does not curve them at all.

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

add a comment |

You might consider separating the geometry into two meshes.

One mesh keeps the subdivision surface (although you might have to crease it near the edges that got separated).

The other mesh applies the subdivision surface modifier, and then you use the Poke Faces tactic suggested by the other posters.

Alternately, increase the Crease factor of the edges of the pyramids so that the subdivision surface does not curve them at all.

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

You might consider separating the geometry into two meshes.

One mesh keeps the subdivision surface (although you might have to crease it near the edges that got separated).

The other mesh applies the subdivision surface modifier, and then you use the Poke Faces tactic suggested by the other posters.

Alternately, increase the Crease factor of the edges of the pyramids so that the subdivision surface does not curve them at all.

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

answered Dec 11 at 20:23

Mutant Bob

6,83611136

add a comment |

-1

Use Smooth Vertex tool on selected vertices. Or separate, by selection, pyramids, that are poked faces made with Alt+P ,and give the rest Smooth shading (Tools).

edited Dec 11 at 15:14

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

add a comment |

-1

Use Smooth Vertex tool on selected vertices. Or separate, by selection, pyramids, that are poked faces made with Alt+P ,and give the rest Smooth shading (Tools).

edited Dec 11 at 15:14

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

add a comment |

-1

Use Smooth Vertex tool on selected vertices. Or separate, by selection, pyramids, that are poked faces made with Alt+P ,and give the rest Smooth shading (Tools).

edited Dec 11 at 15:14

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

Use Smooth Vertex tool on selected vertices. Or separate, by selection, pyramids, that are poked faces made with Alt+P ,and give the rest Smooth shading (Tools).

edited Dec 11 at 15:14

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

edited Dec 11 at 15:14

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

answered Dec 11 at 13:34

Lukasz-40sth

445211

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