How is rsync able to work with ssh, when ssh reads and writes output of its own?

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$ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= rsync x brick:
Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa':
alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender]
rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(226) [sender=3.1.3]


rsync supports arbitrary remote shells with --rsh. How is the rsh, e.g. ssh, able to write messages, and not have them mis-interpreted as coming from the rsync process on the server?










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    $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= rsync x brick:
    Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa':
    alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
    rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender]
    rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(226) [sender=3.1.3]


    rsync supports arbitrary remote shells with --rsh. How is the rsh, e.g. ssh, able to write messages, and not have them mis-interpreted as coming from the rsync process on the server?










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      $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= rsync x brick:
      Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa':
      alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
      rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender]
      rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(226) [sender=3.1.3]


      rsync supports arbitrary remote shells with --rsh. How is the rsh, e.g. ssh, able to write messages, and not have them mis-interpreted as coming from the rsync process on the server?










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      $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= rsync x brick:
      Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa':
      alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
      rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender]
      rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(226) [sender=3.1.3]


      rsync supports arbitrary remote shells with --rsh. How is the rsh, e.g. ssh, able to write messages, and not have them mis-interpreted as coming from the rsync process on the server?







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          SSH is prompting and reading the login secrets through a separate file descriptor; it makes sure to open the current TTY.



          Most programs take care to read login secrets from a TTY, so that they can stop the password from being shown by temporarily disabling the "echo" on the TTY. I would expect them to make sure to write the prompt to the same TTY, for robustness sake.



          $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= strace -f rsync x brick:
          ...
          [pid 26255] openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/tty", O_RDWR) = 4
          [pid 26255] ioctl(4, TCGETS, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
          [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon -echo ...) = 0
          ...
          [pid 26255] write(4, "Enter passphrase for key '/home/"..., 51Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa': ) = 51
          [pid 26255] read(4, "", 1) = 0
          [pid 26255] write(4, "n", 1
          ) = 1
          [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
          ...


          SSH printed the error message to standard error (open file number 2), not standard output (open file number 1) which rsync would use for its protocol.



          [pid 26255] write(2, "alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: "..., 64alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
          ) = 64
          [pid 26255] exit_group(255) = ?





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            SSH is prompting and reading the login secrets through a separate file descriptor; it makes sure to open the current TTY.



            Most programs take care to read login secrets from a TTY, so that they can stop the password from being shown by temporarily disabling the "echo" on the TTY. I would expect them to make sure to write the prompt to the same TTY, for robustness sake.



            $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= strace -f rsync x brick:
            ...
            [pid 26255] openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/tty", O_RDWR) = 4
            [pid 26255] ioctl(4, TCGETS, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
            [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon -echo ...) = 0
            ...
            [pid 26255] write(4, "Enter passphrase for key '/home/"..., 51Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa': ) = 51
            [pid 26255] read(4, "", 1) = 0
            [pid 26255] write(4, "n", 1
            ) = 1
            [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
            ...


            SSH printed the error message to standard error (open file number 2), not standard output (open file number 1) which rsync would use for its protocol.



            [pid 26255] write(2, "alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: "..., 64alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
            ) = 64
            [pid 26255] exit_group(255) = ?





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              SSH is prompting and reading the login secrets through a separate file descriptor; it makes sure to open the current TTY.



              Most programs take care to read login secrets from a TTY, so that they can stop the password from being shown by temporarily disabling the "echo" on the TTY. I would expect them to make sure to write the prompt to the same TTY, for robustness sake.



              $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= strace -f rsync x brick:
              ...
              [pid 26255] openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/tty", O_RDWR) = 4
              [pid 26255] ioctl(4, TCGETS, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
              [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon -echo ...) = 0
              ...
              [pid 26255] write(4, "Enter passphrase for key '/home/"..., 51Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa': ) = 51
              [pid 26255] read(4, "", 1) = 0
              [pid 26255] write(4, "n", 1
              ) = 1
              [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
              ...


              SSH printed the error message to standard error (open file number 2), not standard output (open file number 1) which rsync would use for its protocol.



              [pid 26255] write(2, "alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: "..., 64alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
              ) = 64
              [pid 26255] exit_group(255) = ?





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                SSH is prompting and reading the login secrets through a separate file descriptor; it makes sure to open the current TTY.



                Most programs take care to read login secrets from a TTY, so that they can stop the password from being shown by temporarily disabling the "echo" on the TTY. I would expect them to make sure to write the prompt to the same TTY, for robustness sake.



                $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= strace -f rsync x brick:
                ...
                [pid 26255] openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/tty", O_RDWR) = 4
                [pid 26255] ioctl(4, TCGETS, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
                [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon -echo ...) = 0
                ...
                [pid 26255] write(4, "Enter passphrase for key '/home/"..., 51Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa': ) = 51
                [pid 26255] read(4, "", 1) = 0
                [pid 26255] write(4, "n", 1
                ) = 1
                [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
                ...


                SSH printed the error message to standard error (open file number 2), not standard output (open file number 1) which rsync would use for its protocol.



                [pid 26255] write(2, "alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: "..., 64alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
                ) = 64
                [pid 26255] exit_group(255) = ?





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                SSH is prompting and reading the login secrets through a separate file descriptor; it makes sure to open the current TTY.



                Most programs take care to read login secrets from a TTY, so that they can stop the password from being shown by temporarily disabling the "echo" on the TTY. I would expect them to make sure to write the prompt to the same TTY, for robustness sake.



                $ SSH_AUTH_SOCK= strace -f rsync x brick:
                ...
                [pid 26255] openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/tty", O_RDWR) = 4
                [pid 26255] ioctl(4, TCGETS, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
                [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon -echo ...) = 0
                ...
                [pid 26255] write(4, "Enter passphrase for key '/home/"..., 51Enter passphrase for key '/home/alan/.ssh/id_rsa': ) = 51
                [pid 26255] read(4, "", 1) = 0
                [pid 26255] write(4, "n", 1
                ) = 1
                [pid 26255] ioctl(4, SNDCTL_TMR_CONTINUE or TCSETSF, B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...) = 0
                ...


                SSH printed the error message to standard error (open file number 2), not standard output (open file number 1) which rsync would use for its protocol.



                [pid 26255] write(2, "alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: "..., 64alan@brick.carrier.duckdns.org: Permission denied (publickey).
                ) = 64
                [pid 26255] exit_group(255) = ?






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