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    Asus used to with their "eee" netbooks; I don't know if a Linux pre-install is an option any longer. I believe Dell and Lenovo either currently do or had formerly offered Linux in lieu of Windows.
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    Have you considered buying the individual components yourself and assembling them?
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally country and time dependent, and any answer will be out of date within weeks if not days of it being written.
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    This looks like a shopping-recommendation question, which is off-topic. I'd like to know the answer too, but I'm not sure that here's the right place.
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    Asus used to with their "eee" netbooks; I don't know if a Linux pre-install is an option any longer. I believe Dell and Lenovo either currently do or had formerly offered Linux in lieu of Windows.
    – DopeGhoti
    Nov 27 '17 at 17:15






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    Have you considered buying the individual components yourself and assembling them?
    – JAB
    Nov 27 '17 at 18:29






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally country and time dependent, and any answer will be out of date within weeks if not days of it being written.
    – roaima
    Nov 27 '17 at 20:52







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    This looks like a shopping-recommendation question, which is off-topic. I'd like to know the answer too, but I'm not sure that here's the right place.
    – wizzwizz4
    Nov 27 '17 at 21:00







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    @delty You could post a short answer instead of a comment. Even when you don't have much time, an answer should still ideally go in the answer box if it answers the question.
    – wizzwizz4
    Nov 27 '17 at 21:00













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What companies sell computers without pre-installed proprietary operating systems like Mac OS X or Windows? I only know of System76, but are there others? Does Asus?







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    Asus used to with their "eee" netbooks; I don't know if a Linux pre-install is an option any longer. I believe Dell and Lenovo either currently do or had formerly offered Linux in lieu of Windows.
    – DopeGhoti
    Nov 27 '17 at 17:15






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    Have you considered buying the individual components yourself and assembling them?
    – JAB
    Nov 27 '17 at 18:29






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally country and time dependent, and any answer will be out of date within weeks if not days of it being written.
    – roaima
    Nov 27 '17 at 20:52







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    This looks like a shopping-recommendation question, which is off-topic. I'd like to know the answer too, but I'm not sure that here's the right place.
    – wizzwizz4
    Nov 27 '17 at 21:00







  • 1




    @delty You could post a short answer instead of a comment. Even when you don't have much time, an answer should still ideally go in the answer box if it answers the question.
    – wizzwizz4
    Nov 27 '17 at 21:00













  • 1




    Asus used to with their "eee" netbooks; I don't know if a Linux pre-install is an option any longer. I believe Dell and Lenovo either currently do or had formerly offered Linux in lieu of Windows.
    – DopeGhoti
    Nov 27 '17 at 17:15






  • 2




    Have you considered buying the individual components yourself and assembling them?
    – JAB
    Nov 27 '17 at 18:29






  • 3




    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally country and time dependent, and any answer will be out of date within weeks if not days of it being written.
    – roaima
    Nov 27 '17 at 20:52







  • 1




    This looks like a shopping-recommendation question, which is off-topic. I'd like to know the answer too, but I'm not sure that here's the right place.
    – wizzwizz4
    Nov 27 '17 at 21:00







  • 1




    @delty You could post a short answer instead of a comment. Even when you don't have much time, an answer should still ideally go in the answer box if it answers the question.
    – wizzwizz4
    Nov 27 '17 at 21:00








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Asus used to with their "eee" netbooks; I don't know if a Linux pre-install is an option any longer. I believe Dell and Lenovo either currently do or had formerly offered Linux in lieu of Windows.
– DopeGhoti
Nov 27 '17 at 17:15




Asus used to with their "eee" netbooks; I don't know if a Linux pre-install is an option any longer. I believe Dell and Lenovo either currently do or had formerly offered Linux in lieu of Windows.
– DopeGhoti
Nov 27 '17 at 17:15




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Have you considered buying the individual components yourself and assembling them?
– JAB
Nov 27 '17 at 18:29




Have you considered buying the individual components yourself and assembling them?
– JAB
Nov 27 '17 at 18:29




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I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally country and time dependent, and any answer will be out of date within weeks if not days of it being written.
– roaima
Nov 27 '17 at 20:52





I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's totally country and time dependent, and any answer will be out of date within weeks if not days of it being written.
– roaima
Nov 27 '17 at 20:52





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This looks like a shopping-recommendation question, which is off-topic. I'd like to know the answer too, but I'm not sure that here's the right place.
– wizzwizz4
Nov 27 '17 at 21:00





This looks like a shopping-recommendation question, which is off-topic. I'd like to know the answer too, but I'm not sure that here's the right place.
– wizzwizz4
Nov 27 '17 at 21:00





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@delty You could post a short answer instead of a comment. Even when you don't have much time, an answer should still ideally go in the answer box if it answers the question.
– wizzwizz4
Nov 27 '17 at 21:00





@delty You could post a short answer instead of a comment. Even when you don't have much time, an answer should still ideally go in the answer box if it answers the question.
– wizzwizz4
Nov 27 '17 at 21:00











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HP makes a number of machines that are Canonical (Ubuntu) certified. I know that on some of their workstations, you can get Ubuntu and Redhat distros (See the HP z840).



Another good place to look might be the Free Software Foundation (FSF). I know they do some hardware certification.






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  • I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
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    Nov 27 '17 at 17:30






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    @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
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The Ministry of Freedom sells computers with not only GNU-approved free operating systems (I believe they use Trisquel), but also Libreboot, a free and open source BIOS replacement.






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    On https://linuxpreloaded.com/ you will find a rather up-to-date list of such vendors, curated by hand. It is a subjective listing, but without ads or referral links.



    Disclaimer: I am the editor of the web page.






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      In addition to what has been mentioned, Dell sells system's pre-loaded with Linux, though this generally requires buying direct from them.






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        I bought a Brix by Gigabyte for my htpc.






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          There's also the Raspberry Pi that comes without an OS. The hardware contains a single binary blob graphics driver, but no proprietary operating system comes preinstalled.






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            Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
            – Geremia
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          • Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
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          HP makes a number of machines that are Canonical (Ubuntu) certified. I know that on some of their workstations, you can get Ubuntu and Redhat distros (See the HP z840).



          Another good place to look might be the Free Software Foundation (FSF). I know they do some hardware certification.






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          • I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
            – Geremia
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:30






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            @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
            – Zerodf
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:37















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          HP makes a number of machines that are Canonical (Ubuntu) certified. I know that on some of their workstations, you can get Ubuntu and Redhat distros (See the HP z840).



          Another good place to look might be the Free Software Foundation (FSF). I know they do some hardware certification.






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          • I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
            – Geremia
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:30






          • 4




            @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
            – Zerodf
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:37













          up vote
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          up vote
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          HP makes a number of machines that are Canonical (Ubuntu) certified. I know that on some of their workstations, you can get Ubuntu and Redhat distros (See the HP z840).



          Another good place to look might be the Free Software Foundation (FSF). I know they do some hardware certification.






          share|improve this answer












          HP makes a number of machines that are Canonical (Ubuntu) certified. I know that on some of their workstations, you can get Ubuntu and Redhat distros (See the HP z840).



          Another good place to look might be the Free Software Foundation (FSF). I know they do some hardware certification.







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          answered Nov 27 '17 at 17:23









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          • I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
            – Geremia
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:30






          • 4




            @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
            – Zerodf
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:37

















          • I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
            – Geremia
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:30






          • 4




            @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
            – Zerodf
            Nov 27 '17 at 17:37
















          I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
          – Geremia
          Nov 27 '17 at 17:30




          I didn't know FSF did "hardware certification". Is that really necessary, though? Linux runs on just about everything.
          – Geremia
          Nov 27 '17 at 17:30




          4




          4




          @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
          – Zerodf
          Nov 27 '17 at 17:37





          @Geremia, that is an excellent question. It depends on what you are looking for in a completed system. If you just want a system that will run Linux well, than a vendor certification is probably more than good enough. However, if you want to run nothing but Free and Open Source software, then you might still need to look elsewhere. For example, I manage some HP Z420 desktops. They are Canonical certified. However, the graphics cards require a closed source, NVidia driver for best performance. That is not an issue for me or my organization. However, it might be for some users.
          – Zerodf
          Nov 27 '17 at 17:37













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          The Ministry of Freedom sells computers with not only GNU-approved free operating systems (I believe they use Trisquel), but also Libreboot, a free and open source BIOS replacement.






          share|improve this answer


























            up vote
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            The Ministry of Freedom sells computers with not only GNU-approved free operating systems (I believe they use Trisquel), but also Libreboot, a free and open source BIOS replacement.






            share|improve this answer
























              up vote
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              up vote
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              The Ministry of Freedom sells computers with not only GNU-approved free operating systems (I believe they use Trisquel), but also Libreboot, a free and open source BIOS replacement.






              share|improve this answer














              The Ministry of Freedom sells computers with not only GNU-approved free operating systems (I believe they use Trisquel), but also Libreboot, a free and open source BIOS replacement.







              share|improve this answer














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                  On https://linuxpreloaded.com/ you will find a rather up-to-date list of such vendors, curated by hand. It is a subjective listing, but without ads or referral links.



                  Disclaimer: I am the editor of the web page.






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                    up vote
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                    On https://linuxpreloaded.com/ you will find a rather up-to-date list of such vendors, curated by hand. It is a subjective listing, but without ads or referral links.



                    Disclaimer: I am the editor of the web page.






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                      up vote
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                      up vote
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                      On https://linuxpreloaded.com/ you will find a rather up-to-date list of such vendors, curated by hand. It is a subjective listing, but without ads or referral links.



                      Disclaimer: I am the editor of the web page.






                      share|improve this answer












                      On https://linuxpreloaded.com/ you will find a rather up-to-date list of such vendors, curated by hand. It is a subjective listing, but without ads or referral links.



                      Disclaimer: I am the editor of the web page.







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                          In addition to what has been mentioned, Dell sells system's pre-loaded with Linux, though this generally requires buying direct from them.






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                            In addition to what has been mentioned, Dell sells system's pre-loaded with Linux, though this generally requires buying direct from them.






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                              In addition to what has been mentioned, Dell sells system's pre-loaded with Linux, though this generally requires buying direct from them.






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                              In addition to what has been mentioned, Dell sells system's pre-loaded with Linux, though this generally requires buying direct from them.







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                                  I bought a Brix by Gigabyte for my htpc.






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                                    I bought a Brix by Gigabyte for my htpc.






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                                      I bought a Brix by Gigabyte for my htpc.






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                                          There's also the Raspberry Pi that comes without an OS. The hardware contains a single binary blob graphics driver, but no proprietary operating system comes preinstalled.






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                                            Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
                                            – Geremia
                                            Nov 29 '17 at 16:24










                                          • Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
                                            – gmarmstrong
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                                          There's also the Raspberry Pi that comes without an OS. The hardware contains a single binary blob graphics driver, but no proprietary operating system comes preinstalled.






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                                            Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
                                            – Geremia
                                            Nov 29 '17 at 16:24










                                          • Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
                                            – gmarmstrong
                                            Feb 27 at 19:07













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                                          There's also the Raspberry Pi that comes without an OS. The hardware contains a single binary blob graphics driver, but no proprietary operating system comes preinstalled.






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                                          There's also the Raspberry Pi that comes without an OS. The hardware contains a single binary blob graphics driver, but no proprietary operating system comes preinstalled.







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                                            Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
                                            – Geremia
                                            Nov 29 '17 at 16:24










                                          • Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
                                            – gmarmstrong
                                            Feb 27 at 19:07













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                                            Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
                                            – Geremia
                                            Nov 29 '17 at 16:24










                                          • Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
                                            – gmarmstrong
                                            Feb 27 at 19:07








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                                          Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
                                          – Geremia
                                          Nov 29 '17 at 16:24




                                          Isn't the RaspberryPi firmware proprietary?
                                          – Geremia
                                          Nov 29 '17 at 16:24












                                          Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
                                          – gmarmstrong
                                          Feb 27 at 19:07





                                          Yep. There's a closed-source binary blob driver. raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom That being said, this does answer the question that was asked.
                                          – gmarmstrong
                                          Feb 27 at 19:07



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