Which Linux Mint Timeshift method is more space efficient
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Some questions about Timeshift backup in Linux Mint:
can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the btrfs option and the rsync option? As I understand it btrfs uses diff-based snapshots so should make efficient use of space. Will rsync do similar?
are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home system?
if some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting, will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
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Some questions about Timeshift backup in Linux Mint:
can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the btrfs option and the rsync option? As I understand it btrfs uses diff-based snapshots so should make efficient use of space. Will rsync do similar?
are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home system?
if some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting, will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
linux-mint rsync backup btrfs
asked Jul 4 at 8:17
Sam
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2
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up vote
2
down vote
favorite
Some questions about Timeshift backup in Linux Mint:
can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the btrfs option and the rsync option? As I understand it btrfs uses diff-based snapshots so should make efficient use of space. Will rsync do similar?
are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home system?
if some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting, will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
linux-mint rsync backup btrfs
asked Jul 4 at 8:17
Sam
133
Some questions about Timeshift backup in Linux Mint:
can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the btrfs option and the rsync option? As I understand it btrfs uses diff-based snapshots so should make efficient use of space. Will rsync do similar?
are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home system?
if some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting, will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
linux-mint rsync backup btrfs
asked Jul 4 at 8:17
Sam
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asked Jul 4 at 8:17
Sam
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asked Jul 4 at 8:17
Sam
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asked Jul 4 at 8:17
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Can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the
btrfs option and the rsync option?
Yes. The rsync option uses hard-links. This means that if a file remains the same between snapshots (these are not backups, BTW) the file system only needs to store a new name/path for the same file. This also means that if a file changes between snapshots the entire new file needs to be copied.
In contrast, BTRFS snapshots work at the file block level. This means that if a file changes between snapshots only the changed blocks need to be retained in the new snapshot; The other blocks of the same file can be shared between multiple snapshots.
Another thing which affects the amount of space used the filesystem overhead, which varies between filesystems.
Are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home
system?
Yes. Before using BTRFS it's worth reading the documentation. This is not your everyday filesystem. In particular read the Gotchas which discusses fragmentation of random-write files (such as Firefox sqlite databases).
If some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting,
will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
In short, I don't know. Timeshift does integrate with the bootloader, but I don't know to what extent. You may need to get with the devs on this and do some testing on your own.
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
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Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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up vote
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down vote
accepted
Can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the
btrfs option and the rsync option?
Yes. The rsync option uses hard-links. This means that if a file remains the same between snapshots (these are not backups, BTW) the file system only needs to store a new name/path for the same file. This also means that if a file changes between snapshots the entire new file needs to be copied.
In contrast, BTRFS snapshots work at the file block level. This means that if a file changes between snapshots only the changed blocks need to be retained in the new snapshot; The other blocks of the same file can be shared between multiple snapshots.
Another thing which affects the amount of space used the filesystem overhead, which varies between filesystems.
Are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home
system?
Yes. Before using BTRFS it's worth reading the documentation. This is not your everyday filesystem. In particular read the Gotchas which discusses fragmentation of random-write files (such as Firefox sqlite databases).
If some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting,
will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
In short, I don't know. Timeshift does integrate with the bootloader, but I don't know to what extent. You may need to get with the devs on this and do some testing on your own.
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
– Sam
Jul 5 at 7:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the
btrfs option and the rsync option?
Yes. The rsync option uses hard-links. This means that if a file remains the same between snapshots (these are not backups, BTW) the file system only needs to store a new name/path for the same file. This also means that if a file changes between snapshots the entire new file needs to be copied.
In contrast, BTRFS snapshots work at the file block level. This means that if a file changes between snapshots only the changed blocks need to be retained in the new snapshot; The other blocks of the same file can be shared between multiple snapshots.
Another thing which affects the amount of space used the filesystem overhead, which varies between filesystems.
Are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home
system?
Yes. Before using BTRFS it's worth reading the documentation. This is not your everyday filesystem. In particular read the Gotchas which discusses fragmentation of random-write files (such as Firefox sqlite databases).
If some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting,
will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
In short, I don't know. Timeshift does integrate with the bootloader, but I don't know to what extent. You may need to get with the devs on this and do some testing on your own.
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
– Sam
Jul 5 at 7:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the
btrfs option and the rsync option?
Yes. The rsync option uses hard-links. This means that if a file remains the same between snapshots (these are not backups, BTW) the file system only needs to store a new name/path for the same file. This also means that if a file changes between snapshots the entire new file needs to be copied.
In contrast, BTRFS snapshots work at the file block level. This means that if a file changes between snapshots only the changed blocks need to be retained in the new snapshot; The other blocks of the same file can be shared between multiple snapshots.
Another thing which affects the amount of space used the filesystem overhead, which varies between filesystems.
Are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home
system?
Yes. Before using BTRFS it's worth reading the documentation. This is not your everyday filesystem. In particular read the Gotchas which discusses fragmentation of random-write files (such as Firefox sqlite databases).
If some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting,
will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
In short, I don't know. Timeshift does integrate with the bootloader, but I don't know to what extent. You may need to get with the devs on this and do some testing on your own.
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
Can I expect a difference in drive space used for backups between the
btrfs option and the rsync option?
Yes. The rsync option uses hard-links. This means that if a file remains the same between snapshots (these are not backups, BTW) the file system only needs to store a new name/path for the same file. This also means that if a file changes between snapshots the entire new file needs to be copied.
In contrast, BTRFS snapshots work at the file block level. This means that if a file changes between snapshots only the changed blocks need to be retained in the new snapshot; The other blocks of the same file can be shared between multiple snapshots.
Another thing which affects the amount of space used the filesystem overhead, which varies between filesystems.
Are there any drawbacks to using btrfs instead of ext4 for a home
system?
Yes. Before using BTRFS it's worth reading the documentation. This is not your everyday filesystem. In particular read the Gotchas which discusses fragmentation of random-write files (such as Firefox sqlite databases).
If some kernel update or whatever did prevent the system from booting,
will Timeshift pop up during boot as a recovery option?
In short, I don't know. Timeshift does integrate with the bootloader, but I don't know to what extent. You may need to get with the devs on this and do some testing on your own.
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
answered Jul 4 at 16:41
Emmanuel Rosa
2,1801410
2,1801410
Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
– Sam
Jul 5 at 7:21
add a comment |Â
Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
– Sam
Jul 5 at 7:21
Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
– Sam
Jul 5 at 7:21
Two out of three excellent answers! Thank you :-) I'll probably pick this as solution but I'll leave it open a bit longer for anyone else to comment on question 3.
– Sam
Jul 5 at 7:21
add a comment |Â
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