Relation between binomial and negative binomial

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I was reading on negative binomial from a Statistics textbook and came across this portion on probability relation between binomial and negative binomial. $Y$ refers to the number of trials required to get $r$ successes.
Can somebody please explain the relation










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    I was reading on negative binomial from a Statistics textbook and came across this portion on probability relation between binomial and negative binomial. $Y$ refers to the number of trials required to get $r$ successes.
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      I was reading on negative binomial from a Statistics textbook and came across this portion on probability relation between binomial and negative binomial. $Y$ refers to the number of trials required to get $r$ successes.
      Can somebody please explain the relation










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      I was reading on negative binomial from a Statistics textbook and came across this portion on probability relation between binomial and negative binomial. $Y$ refers to the number of trials required to get $r$ successes.
      Can somebody please explain the relation







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          Based on binomial distribution, event $X geq r$ is the set of outcomes that satisfy "$n$ trials led to $r$ successes or more", which is equivalent to "$r$-th success happened at $n$-th trial or before", which is in turn equivalent to "$n$ trials or less were required to get $r$ successes", and that is it.
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= Pmboxat least r successes in n trials\
          &= Pmboxr-th success in n-th trial or before\
          &= Pmboxn or fewer trials to get r successes\
          &= PY leq n
          endalign*$$



          The second relation is the complement of first relation that is:
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= PY leq n,\
          1 - PX geq r &= 1 - PY leq n,\
          PX < r &= PY > n\
          endalign*$$



          The second relation means:



          $$Pmboxless than r successes in n trials= Pmboxmore than n trials to get r successes$$






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            Thank you. What about the second relation?
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            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:05










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            In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
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            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:15











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            (32) is simple the complement of (31)
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            – Henry
            Mar 16 at 13:33











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          $begingroup$

          Based on binomial distribution, event $X geq r$ is the set of outcomes that satisfy "$n$ trials led to $r$ successes or more", which is equivalent to "$r$-th success happened at $n$-th trial or before", which is in turn equivalent to "$n$ trials or less were required to get $r$ successes", and that is it.
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= Pmboxat least r successes in n trials\
          &= Pmboxr-th success in n-th trial or before\
          &= Pmboxn or fewer trials to get r successes\
          &= PY leq n
          endalign*$$



          The second relation is the complement of first relation that is:
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= PY leq n,\
          1 - PX geq r &= 1 - PY leq n,\
          PX < r &= PY > n\
          endalign*$$



          The second relation means:



          $$Pmboxless than r successes in n trials= Pmboxmore than n trials to get r successes$$






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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. What about the second relation?
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:05










          • $begingroup$
            In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:15











          • $begingroup$
            (32) is simple the complement of (31)
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Mar 16 at 13:33















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          $begingroup$

          Based on binomial distribution, event $X geq r$ is the set of outcomes that satisfy "$n$ trials led to $r$ successes or more", which is equivalent to "$r$-th success happened at $n$-th trial or before", which is in turn equivalent to "$n$ trials or less were required to get $r$ successes", and that is it.
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= Pmboxat least r successes in n trials\
          &= Pmboxr-th success in n-th trial or before\
          &= Pmboxn or fewer trials to get r successes\
          &= PY leq n
          endalign*$$



          The second relation is the complement of first relation that is:
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= PY leq n,\
          1 - PX geq r &= 1 - PY leq n,\
          PX < r &= PY > n\
          endalign*$$



          The second relation means:



          $$Pmboxless than r successes in n trials= Pmboxmore than n trials to get r successes$$






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. What about the second relation?
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:05










          • $begingroup$
            In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:15











          • $begingroup$
            (32) is simple the complement of (31)
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Mar 16 at 13:33













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          $begingroup$

          Based on binomial distribution, event $X geq r$ is the set of outcomes that satisfy "$n$ trials led to $r$ successes or more", which is equivalent to "$r$-th success happened at $n$-th trial or before", which is in turn equivalent to "$n$ trials or less were required to get $r$ successes", and that is it.
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= Pmboxat least r successes in n trials\
          &= Pmboxr-th success in n-th trial or before\
          &= Pmboxn or fewer trials to get r successes\
          &= PY leq n
          endalign*$$



          The second relation is the complement of first relation that is:
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= PY leq n,\
          1 - PX geq r &= 1 - PY leq n,\
          PX < r &= PY > n\
          endalign*$$



          The second relation means:



          $$Pmboxless than r successes in n trials= Pmboxmore than n trials to get r successes$$






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Based on binomial distribution, event $X geq r$ is the set of outcomes that satisfy "$n$ trials led to $r$ successes or more", which is equivalent to "$r$-th success happened at $n$-th trial or before", which is in turn equivalent to "$n$ trials or less were required to get $r$ successes", and that is it.
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= Pmboxat least r successes in n trials\
          &= Pmboxr-th success in n-th trial or before\
          &= Pmboxn or fewer trials to get r successes\
          &= PY leq n
          endalign*$$



          The second relation is the complement of first relation that is:
          $$beginalign*
          PX geq r &= PY leq n,\
          1 - PX geq r &= 1 - PY leq n,\
          PX < r &= PY > n\
          endalign*$$



          The second relation means:



          $$Pmboxless than r successes in n trials= Pmboxmore than n trials to get r successes$$







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          answered Mar 16 at 10:02









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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. What about the second relation?
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:05










          • $begingroup$
            In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:15











          • $begingroup$
            (32) is simple the complement of (31)
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Mar 16 at 13:33
















          • $begingroup$
            Thank you. What about the second relation?
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:05










          • $begingroup$
            In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
            $endgroup$
            – user46697
            Mar 16 at 10:15











          • $begingroup$
            (32) is simple the complement of (31)
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Mar 16 at 13:33















          $begingroup$
          Thank you. What about the second relation?
          $endgroup$
          – user46697
          Mar 16 at 10:05




          $begingroup$
          Thank you. What about the second relation?
          $endgroup$
          – user46697
          Mar 16 at 10:05












          $begingroup$
          In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
          $endgroup$
          – user46697
          Mar 16 at 10:15





          $begingroup$
          In the second relation, is it right to say that the P( less than r successes in n trials) $=$ P( more than n trials to get r successes)
          $endgroup$
          – user46697
          Mar 16 at 10:15













          $begingroup$
          (32) is simple the complement of (31)
          $endgroup$
          – Henry
          Mar 16 at 13:33




          $begingroup$
          (32) is simple the complement of (31)
          $endgroup$
          – Henry
          Mar 16 at 13:33

















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