Comparison of covariant form of Maxwell equations with Einstein's GR

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We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
beginalign
vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
endalign



The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
beginalign
vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
endalign

which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.



All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as



beginalign
partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
endalign



And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
beginequation
Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
endequation



Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
beginequation
R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation



Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
beginequation
partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation



We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
beginequation
Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
endequation



Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?




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    We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
    beginalign
    vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
    vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
    vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
    vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
    endalign



    The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
    beginalign
    vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
    vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
    endalign

    which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.



    All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as



    beginalign
    partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
    partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
    endalign



    And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
    beginequation
    Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
    endequation



    Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
    beginequation
    R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
    endequation



    Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
    beginequation
    partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
    endequation



    We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
    beginequation
    Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
    endequation



    Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?




    Scheme of theories comparison
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      We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
      beginalign
      vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
      vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
      vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
      vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
      endalign



      The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
      beginalign
      vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
      vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
      endalign

      which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.



      All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as



      beginalign
      partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
      partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
      endalign



      And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
      beginequation
      Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
      endequation



      Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
      beginequation
      R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
      endequation



      Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
      beginequation
      partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
      endequation



      We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
      beginequation
      Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
      endequation



      Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?




      Scheme of theories comparison
      enter image description here










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      We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
      beginalign
      vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
      vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
      vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
      vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
      endalign



      The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
      beginalign
      vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
      vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
      endalign

      which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.



      All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as



      beginalign
      partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
      partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
      endalign



      And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
      beginequation
      Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
      endequation



      Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
      beginequation
      R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
      endequation



      Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
      beginequation
      partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
      endequation



      We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
      beginequation
      Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
      endequation



      Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?




      Scheme of theories comparison
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          If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.






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          • Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
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          1. The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.


          2. If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.


          3. For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.






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            If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.






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            • Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
              – Sergio
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            If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.






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            • Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
              – Sergio
              Dec 24 '18 at 8:24













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            If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.






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            If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.







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            • Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
              – Sergio
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            • Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
              – Sergio
              Dec 24 '18 at 8:24















            Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
            – Sergio
            Dec 24 '18 at 8:24




            Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
            – Sergio
            Dec 24 '18 at 8:24











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            1. The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.


            2. If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.


            3. For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.






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              1. The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.


              2. If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.


              3. For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.






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                1. The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.


                2. If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.


                3. For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.






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                1. The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.


                2. If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.


                3. For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.







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