Comparison of covariant form of Maxwell equations with Einstein's GR
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We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
beginalign
vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
endalign
The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
beginalign
vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
endalign
which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.
All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as
beginalign
partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
endalign
And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
beginequation
Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
endequation
Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
beginequation
R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
beginequation
partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
beginequation
Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
endequation
Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?
Scheme of theories comparison
general-relativity maxwell-equations gauge-invariance
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We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
beginalign
vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
endalign
The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
beginalign
vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
endalign
which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.
All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as
beginalign
partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
endalign
And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
beginequation
Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
endequation
Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
beginequation
R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
beginequation
partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
beginequation
Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
endequation
Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?
Scheme of theories comparison
general-relativity maxwell-equations gauge-invariance
add a comment |
We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
beginalign
vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
endalign
The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
beginalign
vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
endalign
which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.
All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as
beginalign
partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
endalign
And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
beginequation
Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
endequation
Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
beginequation
R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
beginequation
partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
beginequation
Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
endequation
Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?
Scheme of theories comparison
general-relativity maxwell-equations gauge-invariance
We know, the the vector form of Maxwell equations
beginalign
vecnablacdotvecE &= 4pirho labelDiff I\
vecnablatimesvecB &= dfrac4pic vecj+dfrac1cdfracpartialvecEpartial t labelDiff IV\
vecnablatimesvecE &= -dfrac1cdfracpartialvecBpartial t labelDiff III\
vecnablacdotvecB &= 0 labelDiff II
endalign
The last two of them allow us to introduce the potentials:
beginalign
vecE &= -frac1c fracpartial vecApartial t - vecnablaphi\
vecB &= vecnablatimesvec A
endalign
which tells us about gauge invariance of equations.
All four of Maxwell's equations can be written compactly as
beginalign
partial_muF^munu &= frac4picj^nu tag1\
partial_[muF_alphabeta] &= 0;. tag2
endalign
And according to the last one equation, the first one we can rewrite (use preferred gauge) in form:
beginequation
Box A^mu = -frac4pic j^mu
endequation
Now we consider the Einstein GR equations:
beginequation
R_munu = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
Or in "$Gamma-$field" form (indexes are omitted):
beginequation
partial Gamma - partial Gamma + GammaGamma - GammaGamma = 8pi G (T_munu - frac12g_munuT).
endequation
We know, in weak field limit the equations get simply form externally similar to Maxwell ones (so called gravitomagnetism) in 3-vector form, or in covariant form:
beginequation
Box h_munu = -16pi G (T_munu - frac12eta_munuT)
endequation
Thus, the question: Why for covariant form of Maxwell equations we need two different entities of equations, but for the GR the only one? Or another words, can we write the Einstein GR equations for weak field limit similar to Maxwell equations in field form, not via potentials?
Scheme of theories comparison
general-relativity maxwell-equations gauge-invariance
general-relativity maxwell-equations gauge-invariance
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If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.
Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
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The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.
If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.
For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.
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If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.
Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
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If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.
Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
add a comment |
If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.
If you want to compare Maxwell's EM with GR, note they're respectively obtainable from extending a global $U(1)$ variance to a local one and Lorentz invariance to invariance under general coordinate transformations. Thus the equivalent of introducing $A_mu$ in the gauge covariant derivative is introducing Christoffel symbols in the connection, while the commutator $F_munu$ of gauge covariant derivatives is analogous to the commutator $R_munurhosigma$ of connections acting on a vector field. So the equivalent of (1) is Einstein's usual equations, while the equivalent of (2) is $R_mu[nurhosigma]=0$. In neither case do we need the second equation; a Lagrangian formulation obtains the first, but the second is just a tautology.
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Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
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Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
Ok, as I understand, the answer, the Bianchi relation is the GR analog to the (2).
– Sergio
Dec 24 '18 at 8:24
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The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.
If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.
For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.
add a comment |
The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.
If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.
For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.
add a comment |
The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.
If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.
For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.
The counterpart to $(g,R)$ in GR is $(A,F)$ in E&M.
If you write $F=F(A)$ in E&M, then the Bianchi relation (2) is not needed/a tautology, cf. e.g. this Phys.SE post.
For how GEM appears as a limit of GR, see e.g. this Phys.SE post.
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