Dynamically growing swap file on Debian
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I know how to create a swap file and use it as swap. But I have to configure the size of the file beforehand and the space is used on the disk, if the swap is used or not.
How do I create a swap that has an initial size of 0 and grows on demand?
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I know how to create a swap file and use it as swap. But I have to configure the size of the file beforehand and the space is used on the disk, if the swap is used or not.
How do I create a swap that has an initial size of 0 and grows on demand?
linux swap
@Gilles: I am just curious - Why did you edit the title (apart from the typo)? Isn't it desired to have fully pronounced questions here?
– rubo77
Jun 4 '14 at 8:22
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It's better to avoid useless words, especially at the start of the title which is where people pay the most attention. See How do I write a good title?. “Dynamically growing swap” gives the essential idea. “How do I create” doesn't begin to indicate what the question is about. There are people who prefer to make question titles questions because they're questions, but it's silly reason: the title is also the title of the answers.
– Gilles
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I know how to create a swap file and use it as swap. But I have to configure the size of the file beforehand and the space is used on the disk, if the swap is used or not.
How do I create a swap that has an initial size of 0 and grows on demand?
linux swap
I know how to create a swap file and use it as swap. But I have to configure the size of the file beforehand and the space is used on the disk, if the swap is used or not.
How do I create a swap that has an initial size of 0 and grows on demand?
linux swap
linux swap
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@Gilles: I am just curious - Why did you edit the title (apart from the typo)? Isn't it desired to have fully pronounced questions here?
– rubo77
Jun 4 '14 at 8:22
1
It's better to avoid useless words, especially at the start of the title which is where people pay the most attention. See How do I write a good title?. “Dynamically growing swap” gives the essential idea. “How do I create” doesn't begin to indicate what the question is about. There are people who prefer to make question titles questions because they're questions, but it's silly reason: the title is also the title of the answers.
– Gilles
Jun 4 '14 at 8:29
add a comment |
@Gilles: I am just curious - Why did you edit the title (apart from the typo)? Isn't it desired to have fully pronounced questions here?
– rubo77
Jun 4 '14 at 8:22
1
It's better to avoid useless words, especially at the start of the title which is where people pay the most attention. See How do I write a good title?. “Dynamically growing swap” gives the essential idea. “How do I create” doesn't begin to indicate what the question is about. There are people who prefer to make question titles questions because they're questions, but it's silly reason: the title is also the title of the answers.
– Gilles
Jun 4 '14 at 8:29
@Gilles: I am just curious - Why did you edit the title (apart from the typo)? Isn't it desired to have fully pronounced questions here?
– rubo77
Jun 4 '14 at 8:22
@Gilles: I am just curious - Why did you edit the title (apart from the typo)? Isn't it desired to have fully pronounced questions here?
– rubo77
Jun 4 '14 at 8:22
1
1
It's better to avoid useless words, especially at the start of the title which is where people pay the most attention. See How do I write a good title?. “Dynamically growing swap” gives the essential idea. “How do I create” doesn't begin to indicate what the question is about. There are people who prefer to make question titles questions because they're questions, but it's silly reason: the title is also the title of the answers.
– Gilles
Jun 4 '14 at 8:29
It's better to avoid useless words, especially at the start of the title which is where people pay the most attention. See How do I write a good title?. “Dynamically growing swap” gives the essential idea. “How do I create” doesn't begin to indicate what the question is about. There are people who prefer to make question titles questions because they're questions, but it's silly reason: the title is also the title of the answers.
– Gilles
Jun 4 '14 at 8:29
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3 Answers
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up vote
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SwapSpace is a utility that creates a ‘dynamic swap file’ which according to the requirements of the operating system changes its size.
So you can even forget about creating a virtual swap file and just install “SwapSpace” and it’ll automatically create one for you and will even resize it when necessary.
You can also use ‘Swapspace’ side by side with a manually created swap file and when the manually one gets filled ‘Swapspace’ will automatically create another one for the OS so the OS will always have a swap space and it enhances the stability.
Another useful thing about “SwapSpace” is that, whenever it can, it’ll reduce the size of the SwapSpace and “release” those bytes into user file system and according to the developers this reduction helps to increase the swap file’s performance as well (plus your “precious” HDD space is not wasted too).
Install with
sudo apt-get install swapspace
And adjust the config file to your needs. I set the minimum to 0
on my VM debian machine with just 8GB HDD
Additionally I also set the swappiness to 0
to minimize the usage of the precious HDD space on my VM:
To change the system swappiness value, open /etc/sysctl.conf
as root. Then, change or add this line to the file:
vm.swappiness = 0
(Reboot for the change to take effect)
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Afaik, any swap partition that you would make using fdisk for example, would need any space greater than 0, as you are modifying the space from an existing disk and reallocating it into somewhere else.
Anyway, and answering your question, you can easily make a small partition, assign it as swap under fdisk, and afterwards:
1) disable swapping with swapoff -v
2) resize partition with lvresize
3) format the partition with mkswap
4) re-enable the swap space with swapon -v
Afterwards, you can use cat /proc/swaps
to check if it has been upgraded or not. You can easily use this on a script, depending on your system specs, and run it on demand for whenever you need to increase that swap space. Something like:
$ swapoff -v /dev/swapvol1
$ lvresize /dev/swapvol1 -L +1G
$ mkswap /dev/swapvol1
$ swapon -v /dev/swapvol1
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Swapspace is old and unmaintained and could lead, one day, to problems in modern systems. I think that the best solution for dynamic swap is to:
sudo apt install dphys-swapfile
sudo update-rc.d dphys-swapfile enable
then setting CONF_SWAPFACTOR=2
in /etc/dphys-swapfile
and finally
sudo service dphys-swapfile start
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
8
down vote
SwapSpace is a utility that creates a ‘dynamic swap file’ which according to the requirements of the operating system changes its size.
So you can even forget about creating a virtual swap file and just install “SwapSpace” and it’ll automatically create one for you and will even resize it when necessary.
You can also use ‘Swapspace’ side by side with a manually created swap file and when the manually one gets filled ‘Swapspace’ will automatically create another one for the OS so the OS will always have a swap space and it enhances the stability.
Another useful thing about “SwapSpace” is that, whenever it can, it’ll reduce the size of the SwapSpace and “release” those bytes into user file system and according to the developers this reduction helps to increase the swap file’s performance as well (plus your “precious” HDD space is not wasted too).
Install with
sudo apt-get install swapspace
And adjust the config file to your needs. I set the minimum to 0
on my VM debian machine with just 8GB HDD
Additionally I also set the swappiness to 0
to minimize the usage of the precious HDD space on my VM:
To change the system swappiness value, open /etc/sysctl.conf
as root. Then, change or add this line to the file:
vm.swappiness = 0
(Reboot for the change to take effect)
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
add a comment |
up vote
8
down vote
SwapSpace is a utility that creates a ‘dynamic swap file’ which according to the requirements of the operating system changes its size.
So you can even forget about creating a virtual swap file and just install “SwapSpace” and it’ll automatically create one for you and will even resize it when necessary.
You can also use ‘Swapspace’ side by side with a manually created swap file and when the manually one gets filled ‘Swapspace’ will automatically create another one for the OS so the OS will always have a swap space and it enhances the stability.
Another useful thing about “SwapSpace” is that, whenever it can, it’ll reduce the size of the SwapSpace and “release” those bytes into user file system and according to the developers this reduction helps to increase the swap file’s performance as well (plus your “precious” HDD space is not wasted too).
Install with
sudo apt-get install swapspace
And adjust the config file to your needs. I set the minimum to 0
on my VM debian machine with just 8GB HDD
Additionally I also set the swappiness to 0
to minimize the usage of the precious HDD space on my VM:
To change the system swappiness value, open /etc/sysctl.conf
as root. Then, change or add this line to the file:
vm.swappiness = 0
(Reboot for the change to take effect)
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
add a comment |
up vote
8
down vote
up vote
8
down vote
SwapSpace is a utility that creates a ‘dynamic swap file’ which according to the requirements of the operating system changes its size.
So you can even forget about creating a virtual swap file and just install “SwapSpace” and it’ll automatically create one for you and will even resize it when necessary.
You can also use ‘Swapspace’ side by side with a manually created swap file and when the manually one gets filled ‘Swapspace’ will automatically create another one for the OS so the OS will always have a swap space and it enhances the stability.
Another useful thing about “SwapSpace” is that, whenever it can, it’ll reduce the size of the SwapSpace and “release” those bytes into user file system and according to the developers this reduction helps to increase the swap file’s performance as well (plus your “precious” HDD space is not wasted too).
Install with
sudo apt-get install swapspace
And adjust the config file to your needs. I set the minimum to 0
on my VM debian machine with just 8GB HDD
Additionally I also set the swappiness to 0
to minimize the usage of the precious HDD space on my VM:
To change the system swappiness value, open /etc/sysctl.conf
as root. Then, change or add this line to the file:
vm.swappiness = 0
(Reboot for the change to take effect)
SwapSpace is a utility that creates a ‘dynamic swap file’ which according to the requirements of the operating system changes its size.
So you can even forget about creating a virtual swap file and just install “SwapSpace” and it’ll automatically create one for you and will even resize it when necessary.
You can also use ‘Swapspace’ side by side with a manually created swap file and when the manually one gets filled ‘Swapspace’ will automatically create another one for the OS so the OS will always have a swap space and it enhances the stability.
Another useful thing about “SwapSpace” is that, whenever it can, it’ll reduce the size of the SwapSpace and “release” those bytes into user file system and according to the developers this reduction helps to increase the swap file’s performance as well (plus your “precious” HDD space is not wasted too).
Install with
sudo apt-get install swapspace
And adjust the config file to your needs. I set the minimum to 0
on my VM debian machine with just 8GB HDD
Additionally I also set the swappiness to 0
to minimize the usage of the precious HDD space on my VM:
To change the system swappiness value, open /etc/sysctl.conf
as root. Then, change or add this line to the file:
vm.swappiness = 0
(Reboot for the change to take effect)
answered Jun 4 '14 at 0:12
rubo77
7,3052469130
7,3052469130
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
add a comment |
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
This won't support swsusp/suspending to swap file, unless the size of the created swap file is already big enough to contain the RAM dump.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:37
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
So how could we make sure that the swap file gets big enough to contain the ram?
– rubo77
Nov 29 '15 at 18:21
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
Have one fixed size swap file the size of RAM for suspending, and then use swapspace for dynamically sized swap
– Tom Hale
Oct 11 '16 at 11:17
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
It worked for me. This is super useful for small SSD disks.
– Adrian Lopez
Apr 14 '17 at 15:54
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Afaik, any swap partition that you would make using fdisk for example, would need any space greater than 0, as you are modifying the space from an existing disk and reallocating it into somewhere else.
Anyway, and answering your question, you can easily make a small partition, assign it as swap under fdisk, and afterwards:
1) disable swapping with swapoff -v
2) resize partition with lvresize
3) format the partition with mkswap
4) re-enable the swap space with swapon -v
Afterwards, you can use cat /proc/swaps
to check if it has been upgraded or not. You can easily use this on a script, depending on your system specs, and run it on demand for whenever you need to increase that swap space. Something like:
$ swapoff -v /dev/swapvol1
$ lvresize /dev/swapvol1 -L +1G
$ mkswap /dev/swapvol1
$ swapon -v /dev/swapvol1
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Afaik, any swap partition that you would make using fdisk for example, would need any space greater than 0, as you are modifying the space from an existing disk and reallocating it into somewhere else.
Anyway, and answering your question, you can easily make a small partition, assign it as swap under fdisk, and afterwards:
1) disable swapping with swapoff -v
2) resize partition with lvresize
3) format the partition with mkswap
4) re-enable the swap space with swapon -v
Afterwards, you can use cat /proc/swaps
to check if it has been upgraded or not. You can easily use this on a script, depending on your system specs, and run it on demand for whenever you need to increase that swap space. Something like:
$ swapoff -v /dev/swapvol1
$ lvresize /dev/swapvol1 -L +1G
$ mkswap /dev/swapvol1
$ swapon -v /dev/swapvol1
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Afaik, any swap partition that you would make using fdisk for example, would need any space greater than 0, as you are modifying the space from an existing disk and reallocating it into somewhere else.
Anyway, and answering your question, you can easily make a small partition, assign it as swap under fdisk, and afterwards:
1) disable swapping with swapoff -v
2) resize partition with lvresize
3) format the partition with mkswap
4) re-enable the swap space with swapon -v
Afterwards, you can use cat /proc/swaps
to check if it has been upgraded or not. You can easily use this on a script, depending on your system specs, and run it on demand for whenever you need to increase that swap space. Something like:
$ swapoff -v /dev/swapvol1
$ lvresize /dev/swapvol1 -L +1G
$ mkswap /dev/swapvol1
$ swapon -v /dev/swapvol1
Afaik, any swap partition that you would make using fdisk for example, would need any space greater than 0, as you are modifying the space from an existing disk and reallocating it into somewhere else.
Anyway, and answering your question, you can easily make a small partition, assign it as swap under fdisk, and afterwards:
1) disable swapping with swapoff -v
2) resize partition with lvresize
3) format the partition with mkswap
4) re-enable the swap space with swapon -v
Afterwards, you can use cat /proc/swaps
to check if it has been upgraded or not. You can easily use this on a script, depending on your system specs, and run it on demand for whenever you need to increase that swap space. Something like:
$ swapoff -v /dev/swapvol1
$ lvresize /dev/swapvol1 -L +1G
$ mkswap /dev/swapvol1
$ swapon -v /dev/swapvol1
answered Jun 3 '14 at 13:00
AleksanderKseniya
70853
70853
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
add a comment |
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
This doesn't answer the question because the swap size is changed manually, not on demand. Furthermore, resizing the LV isn't useful: where do you find the space to grow? how is the freed space on shrinking not wasted? The question asks about a swap file, which solves the issue of the free space — it's available for other files.
– Gilles
Jun 3 '14 at 22:58
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
Changing the swap size on demand is a good idea, but swapspace does not cover the scenario of swsusp being used for supporting hibernation. I believe this answer might be more sane for those users who need hibernation support. Until swapspace handles that better, of course.
– soze
Aug 26 '15 at 2:40
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Swapspace is old and unmaintained and could lead, one day, to problems in modern systems. I think that the best solution for dynamic swap is to:
sudo apt install dphys-swapfile
sudo update-rc.d dphys-swapfile enable
then setting CONF_SWAPFACTOR=2
in /etc/dphys-swapfile
and finally
sudo service dphys-swapfile start
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Swapspace is old and unmaintained and could lead, one day, to problems in modern systems. I think that the best solution for dynamic swap is to:
sudo apt install dphys-swapfile
sudo update-rc.d dphys-swapfile enable
then setting CONF_SWAPFACTOR=2
in /etc/dphys-swapfile
and finally
sudo service dphys-swapfile start
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Swapspace is old and unmaintained and could lead, one day, to problems in modern systems. I think that the best solution for dynamic swap is to:
sudo apt install dphys-swapfile
sudo update-rc.d dphys-swapfile enable
then setting CONF_SWAPFACTOR=2
in /etc/dphys-swapfile
and finally
sudo service dphys-swapfile start
Swapspace is old and unmaintained and could lead, one day, to problems in modern systems. I think that the best solution for dynamic swap is to:
sudo apt install dphys-swapfile
sudo update-rc.d dphys-swapfile enable
then setting CONF_SWAPFACTOR=2
in /etc/dphys-swapfile
and finally
sudo service dphys-swapfile start
answered Nov 26 at 10:32
Denis Pitzalis
1313
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@Gilles: I am just curious - Why did you edit the title (apart from the typo)? Isn't it desired to have fully pronounced questions here?
– rubo77
Jun 4 '14 at 8:22
1
It's better to avoid useless words, especially at the start of the title which is where people pay the most attention. See How do I write a good title?. “Dynamically growing swap” gives the essential idea. “How do I create” doesn't begin to indicate what the question is about. There are people who prefer to make question titles questions because they're questions, but it's silly reason: the title is also the title of the answers.
– Gilles
Jun 4 '14 at 8:29