Hölder norm of the Hilbert Transform

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Let $mathcalH$ the Hilbert transform defined by
$$mathcalHf(x)= p.v.int_-infty^+inftyfracf(x-y)ydy.$$
We know that, for each $1<p<infty$, it is true that
$$||mathcalHf||_L^pleq C_p||f||_L^p$$
for some positive constant depending only of $p$.



My question is:
Consider $0<alpha<1$ and $||f||_C^alpha$ is the $alpha^th$-Holder norm, e.g,
$$||f||_C^alpha(Omega)=sup_xneq yinOmegafracx-y.$$
Is it true that
$$||mathcalHf||_C^alphaleq C||f||_C^alpha?$$



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    Yes, take $C=1$.
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    adjusted, @supinf.
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    The $L^inftyto L^infty$ estimate fails, so there must be some explicit example of a sequence $f_n$ such that $|Hf_n|_L^infty/|f_n|_L^inftyto infty$. I guess that the same counterexample would make the $C^alpha to C^alpha$ estimate fail as well. Can you please check? I am interested.
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    @GiuseppeNegro Your Idea does not work if the function $f_n$ is not continuous. And i think the heaviside function could be a counterexample for $L^infty$, but i did not check it.
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Let $mathcalH$ the Hilbert transform defined by
$$mathcalHf(x)= p.v.int_-infty^+inftyfracf(x-y)ydy.$$
We know that, for each $1<p<infty$, it is true that
$$||mathcalHf||_L^pleq C_p||f||_L^p$$
for some positive constant depending only of $p$.



My question is:
Consider $0<alpha<1$ and $||f||_C^alpha$ is the $alpha^th$-Holder norm, e.g,
$$||f||_C^alpha(Omega)=sup_xneq yinOmegafracx-y.$$
Is it true that
$$||mathcalHf||_C^alphaleq C||f||_C^alpha?$$



Edit: I will accept answer of the David as correct.
To the other readers, I ask you to read all the answers and comments to understand such a choice.










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    Yes, take $C=1$.
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    adjusted, @supinf.
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    The $L^inftyto L^infty$ estimate fails, so there must be some explicit example of a sequence $f_n$ such that $|Hf_n|_L^infty/|f_n|_L^inftyto infty$. I guess that the same counterexample would make the $C^alpha to C^alpha$ estimate fail as well. Can you please check? I am interested.
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    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 12:23






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    @GiuseppeNegro Your Idea does not work if the function $f_n$ is not continuous. And i think the heaviside function could be a counterexample for $L^infty$, but i did not check it.
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    Feb 11 at 14:18






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    @orange, $p.v.$ is the principal value.
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Let $mathcalH$ the Hilbert transform defined by
$$mathcalHf(x)= p.v.int_-infty^+inftyfracf(x-y)ydy.$$
We know that, for each $1<p<infty$, it is true that
$$||mathcalHf||_L^pleq C_p||f||_L^p$$
for some positive constant depending only of $p$.



My question is:
Consider $0<alpha<1$ and $||f||_C^alpha$ is the $alpha^th$-Holder norm, e.g,
$$||f||_C^alpha(Omega)=sup_xneq yinOmegafracx-y.$$
Is it true that
$$||mathcalHf||_C^alphaleq C||f||_C^alpha?$$



Edit: I will accept answer of the David as correct.
To the other readers, I ask you to read all the answers and comments to understand such a choice.










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Let $mathcalH$ the Hilbert transform defined by
$$mathcalHf(x)= p.v.int_-infty^+inftyfracf(x-y)ydy.$$
We know that, for each $1<p<infty$, it is true that
$$||mathcalHf||_L^pleq C_p||f||_L^p$$
for some positive constant depending only of $p$.



My question is:
Consider $0<alpha<1$ and $||f||_C^alpha$ is the $alpha^th$-Holder norm, e.g,
$$||f||_C^alpha(Omega)=sup_xneq yinOmegafracx-y.$$
Is it true that
$$||mathcalHf||_C^alphaleq C||f||_C^alpha?$$



Edit: I will accept answer of the David as correct.
To the other readers, I ask you to read all the answers and comments to understand such a choice.







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    Yes, take $C=1$.
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    adjusted, @supinf.
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    The $L^inftyto L^infty$ estimate fails, so there must be some explicit example of a sequence $f_n$ such that $|Hf_n|_L^infty/|f_n|_L^inftyto infty$. I guess that the same counterexample would make the $C^alpha to C^alpha$ estimate fail as well. Can you please check? I am interested.
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    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 12:23






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    @GiuseppeNegro Your Idea does not work if the function $f_n$ is not continuous. And i think the heaviside function could be a counterexample for $L^infty$, but i did not check it.
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    @orange, $p.v.$ is the principal value.
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    Yes, take $C=1$.
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    adjusted, @supinf.
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    The $L^inftyto L^infty$ estimate fails, so there must be some explicit example of a sequence $f_n$ such that $|Hf_n|_L^infty/|f_n|_L^inftyto infty$. I guess that the same counterexample would make the $C^alpha to C^alpha$ estimate fail as well. Can you please check? I am interested.
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    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 12:23






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    @GiuseppeNegro Your Idea does not work if the function $f_n$ is not continuous. And i think the heaviside function could be a counterexample for $L^infty$, but i did not check it.
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Yes, take $C=1$.
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Yes, take $C=1$.
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adjusted, @supinf.
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adjusted, @supinf.
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The $L^inftyto L^infty$ estimate fails, so there must be some explicit example of a sequence $f_n$ such that $|Hf_n|_L^infty/|f_n|_L^inftyto infty$. I guess that the same counterexample would make the $C^alpha to C^alpha$ estimate fail as well. Can you please check? I am interested.
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The $L^inftyto L^infty$ estimate fails, so there must be some explicit example of a sequence $f_n$ such that $|Hf_n|_L^infty/|f_n|_L^inftyto infty$. I guess that the same counterexample would make the $C^alpha to C^alpha$ estimate fail as well. Can you please check? I am interested.
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@GiuseppeNegro Your Idea does not work if the function $f_n$ is not continuous. And i think the heaviside function could be a counterexample for $L^infty$, but i did not check it.
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@GiuseppeNegro Your Idea does not work if the function $f_n$ is not continuous. And i think the heaviside function could be a counterexample for $L^infty$, but i did not check it.
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@orange, $p.v.$ is the principal value.
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@orange, $p.v.$ is the principal value.
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Adding another answer because this really has little to do with my previous answer; instead it's a comment on how one might "interpret" things to
reconcile the contradiction between my "yes" and supinf's "no".



We need to be a little careful. Let $$H_epsilon, Af(x)=int_epsilon<f(x-y)fracdyy,$$so $$H=lim_epsilonto0,\AtoinftyH_epsilon, A.$$



supinf gave a simple example of $fin C^alpha$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(0)to-infty$. In fact his example has $Hf(x)=-infty$ for every $x$, so if we want to talk about the Hilbert transform on $C^alpha$ we need to modify the definition. Look at it this way:



Of course the $C^alpha$ norm is just a seminorm. It's clear that $||f||=0$ if and only if $f$ is constant, so we do have a norm on the quotient space $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, consisting of $C^alpha$ modulo constants.



When I said that $H$ was bounded on $C^alpha$ I should have said it was bounded on $X_alpha$. In that context we shouldn't expect pointwise convergence; instead we have this:






True Fact. If $fin C^alpha$ there exist $gin C^alpha$ and constants $c_epsilon,A$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(x)-c_epsilon, Ato g(x)$ for every $x$.






I'm not going to show that $gin C^alpha$ here; that's contained in my previous answer. But I will show that the limit $g(x)$ exists (and is finite) for every $x$; this resolves the contradiction given by supinf: If he'd defined $Hf=g$ then he would not have obtained $Hf=-infty$.



Define $$H=int f(x-y)fracdyy=int_-infty^-1+int_-1^1+int_1^infty=H^-+H^0+H^+.$$



First, $H^0$ is no problem. If we say $H_epsilon^0=int_epsilon<$ then $$H^0f(x)-H_epsilon^0f(x)=int_0^epsilon (f(x-y)-f(x+y)fracdyy;$$since $f(x-y)-f(x+y)=O(y^alpha)$ this shows that in fact $H_epsilon^0 fto H^0f$ uniformly.



Now say $H^+_A=int_1^A$. We do need to subtract a constant $c_A^+$ to get this to converge. The obvious choice is $c_A^+=H_A^+f(0)$, since that certainly gives convergence for $x=0$. If I did the calculus correctly we have
$$beginalignH_A^+f(x)-H_A^+(0)&=int_1-x^1f(-y)frac1y-xdy
\&+int_1^A-xf(-y)left(frac1y-x-frac1yright)dy
\&-int_A-x^Af(-y)fracdyy.endalign$$
The first integral on the RHS is independent of $A$ , while the second integral tends to somethhing finite as $Atoinfty$, since $f(y)=O(y^alpha)$ and $1/(y+x)=1/y=O(1/y^2)$; similarly the tird integral tends to $0$.



Similarly if $H_A^-=int_-A^-1$ there exists $c^-_A$ such that $H_A^--c_A^-$ is pointwise convergent; hence $H_epsilon,A-(c^+_A+c^-_A)$ is pointwise convergent.






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    This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
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    Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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I believe the answer is yes. Going to cheat, pulling out a big gun.



If $0<alpha<1$ then $C^alpha$ is in fact a Besov space; we have $fin C^alpha$ if and only if $$f=sum_ninBbb Z f_n,$$where $widehatf_n$ is supported in the annulus $$A_n=xi$$and $$2^nalpha||f_n||_inftyle c.$$This sort of decomposition of a Besov space often makes it trivial to determine whether a convolution operator is bounded.



Edit: No, it's not quite right to say $C^alpha$ is a Besov space. What's actually a Besov space is the quotient $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, the space of $C^alpha$ functions modulo constants. I was trying to avoid technical details, but given the other answer showing that taken literally $H$ does not map $C^alpha$ to $C^alpha$ it seems we cannot ignore the issue.



Here for example we're done if we can show that $$||Hf_n||_inftyle c||f_n||_infty,$$and that's actually true, even though $H$ is not bounded on $L^infty$.



Recall that up to an irrelevant constant $$widehatHf(xi)=sgn(xi)hat f(xi).$$Choose a Schwarz function $phi_0$ with $$widehatphi_0(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_0).$$If $phi_n$ is an appropriate dilate of $phi_0$ we have $$widehatphi_n(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_n)$$and $$||phi_n||_1=||phi_0||_1.$$Hence $$Hf_n=phi_n*f_n,$$and hence $$||Hf_n||_inftyle||phi_n||_1||f_n||_infty=||phi_0||_1||f_n||_infty.$$



(The inequality fails for $alpha=1$; one explanation for why is that $Lip_1$ is not a Besov space...)



Why is that, I've been asked. First, $H$ is certainly not bounded on $L^infty$; if $f=chi_(0,infty)$ then $Hf$ is not bounded.



Hence $H$ is not bounded on $Lip_1$. Because, in the sense of distributions, $fin Lip_1$ if and only if $f'in L^infty$. It's clear, say from the Fourier transform, that $H$ commutes with the derivative. So $$||Hf||_Lip_1=||(Hf)'||_infty=||H(f')||_infty
notle c||f'||_infty=c||f||_Lip_1.$$






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    This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
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    Was Rudin your advisor?
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    @orange Why yes.
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    @DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
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    Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
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It is not true.



We take the function
$$
f(x) =
begincases
1 &:& xgeq 1,
\ x &:& -1<x<1,
\ -1 &:& xleq -1.
endcases
$$

First, let us verify that $|f|_C^alpha leq 3$.
Let $x,yinmathbb [-1,1]$ be given
(the other cases for $x,y$ are not that interesting, since $f$ has the same value as $f(1)$ or $f(-1)$).
Then
$$
fracx-y
= |x-y|^1-alpha leq 1+|x-y| leq 3.
$$

Thus $fin C^alpha$, i.e. $|f|_C^alpha$ is finite.



Calculating $mathcal Hf$ at $x=0$ yields
$$
mathcal (Hf)(0) =
p.v.int_-infty^infty fracf(-y)y mathrm dy
= int_-infty^-1 frac1y + p.v.int_-1^1 (-1) mathrm dy + int_1^infty frac-1y mathrm dy
= -infty -2 -infty = -infty.
$$

Hence $mathcal Hf$ is not in $C^alpha$ because it is not continuous.
Therefore $|mathcal Hf|=infty$.






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    I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
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    The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
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    @CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
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    Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
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    @GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
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Adding another answer because this really has little to do with my previous answer; instead it's a comment on how one might "interpret" things to
reconcile the contradiction between my "yes" and supinf's "no".



We need to be a little careful. Let $$H_epsilon, Af(x)=int_epsilon<f(x-y)fracdyy,$$so $$H=lim_epsilonto0,\AtoinftyH_epsilon, A.$$



supinf gave a simple example of $fin C^alpha$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(0)to-infty$. In fact his example has $Hf(x)=-infty$ for every $x$, so if we want to talk about the Hilbert transform on $C^alpha$ we need to modify the definition. Look at it this way:



Of course the $C^alpha$ norm is just a seminorm. It's clear that $||f||=0$ if and only if $f$ is constant, so we do have a norm on the quotient space $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, consisting of $C^alpha$ modulo constants.



When I said that $H$ was bounded on $C^alpha$ I should have said it was bounded on $X_alpha$. In that context we shouldn't expect pointwise convergence; instead we have this:






True Fact. If $fin C^alpha$ there exist $gin C^alpha$ and constants $c_epsilon,A$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(x)-c_epsilon, Ato g(x)$ for every $x$.






I'm not going to show that $gin C^alpha$ here; that's contained in my previous answer. But I will show that the limit $g(x)$ exists (and is finite) for every $x$; this resolves the contradiction given by supinf: If he'd defined $Hf=g$ then he would not have obtained $Hf=-infty$.



Define $$H=int f(x-y)fracdyy=int_-infty^-1+int_-1^1+int_1^infty=H^-+H^0+H^+.$$



First, $H^0$ is no problem. If we say $H_epsilon^0=int_epsilon<$ then $$H^0f(x)-H_epsilon^0f(x)=int_0^epsilon (f(x-y)-f(x+y)fracdyy;$$since $f(x-y)-f(x+y)=O(y^alpha)$ this shows that in fact $H_epsilon^0 fto H^0f$ uniformly.



Now say $H^+_A=int_1^A$. We do need to subtract a constant $c_A^+$ to get this to converge. The obvious choice is $c_A^+=H_A^+f(0)$, since that certainly gives convergence for $x=0$. If I did the calculus correctly we have
$$beginalignH_A^+f(x)-H_A^+(0)&=int_1-x^1f(-y)frac1y-xdy
\&+int_1^A-xf(-y)left(frac1y-x-frac1yright)dy
\&-int_A-x^Af(-y)fracdyy.endalign$$
The first integral on the RHS is independent of $A$ , while the second integral tends to somethhing finite as $Atoinfty$, since $f(y)=O(y^alpha)$ and $1/(y+x)=1/y=O(1/y^2)$; similarly the tird integral tends to $0$.



Similarly if $H_A^-=int_-A^-1$ there exists $c^-_A$ such that $H_A^--c_A^-$ is pointwise convergent; hence $H_epsilon,A-(c^+_A+c^-_A)$ is pointwise convergent.






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    This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
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    – Giuseppe Negro
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    Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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Adding another answer because this really has little to do with my previous answer; instead it's a comment on how one might "interpret" things to
reconcile the contradiction between my "yes" and supinf's "no".



We need to be a little careful. Let $$H_epsilon, Af(x)=int_epsilon<f(x-y)fracdyy,$$so $$H=lim_epsilonto0,\AtoinftyH_epsilon, A.$$



supinf gave a simple example of $fin C^alpha$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(0)to-infty$. In fact his example has $Hf(x)=-infty$ for every $x$, so if we want to talk about the Hilbert transform on $C^alpha$ we need to modify the definition. Look at it this way:



Of course the $C^alpha$ norm is just a seminorm. It's clear that $||f||=0$ if and only if $f$ is constant, so we do have a norm on the quotient space $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, consisting of $C^alpha$ modulo constants.



When I said that $H$ was bounded on $C^alpha$ I should have said it was bounded on $X_alpha$. In that context we shouldn't expect pointwise convergence; instead we have this:






True Fact. If $fin C^alpha$ there exist $gin C^alpha$ and constants $c_epsilon,A$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(x)-c_epsilon, Ato g(x)$ for every $x$.






I'm not going to show that $gin C^alpha$ here; that's contained in my previous answer. But I will show that the limit $g(x)$ exists (and is finite) for every $x$; this resolves the contradiction given by supinf: If he'd defined $Hf=g$ then he would not have obtained $Hf=-infty$.



Define $$H=int f(x-y)fracdyy=int_-infty^-1+int_-1^1+int_1^infty=H^-+H^0+H^+.$$



First, $H^0$ is no problem. If we say $H_epsilon^0=int_epsilon<$ then $$H^0f(x)-H_epsilon^0f(x)=int_0^epsilon (f(x-y)-f(x+y)fracdyy;$$since $f(x-y)-f(x+y)=O(y^alpha)$ this shows that in fact $H_epsilon^0 fto H^0f$ uniformly.



Now say $H^+_A=int_1^A$. We do need to subtract a constant $c_A^+$ to get this to converge. The obvious choice is $c_A^+=H_A^+f(0)$, since that certainly gives convergence for $x=0$. If I did the calculus correctly we have
$$beginalignH_A^+f(x)-H_A^+(0)&=int_1-x^1f(-y)frac1y-xdy
\&+int_1^A-xf(-y)left(frac1y-x-frac1yright)dy
\&-int_A-x^Af(-y)fracdyy.endalign$$
The first integral on the RHS is independent of $A$ , while the second integral tends to somethhing finite as $Atoinfty$, since $f(y)=O(y^alpha)$ and $1/(y+x)=1/y=O(1/y^2)$; similarly the tird integral tends to $0$.



Similarly if $H_A^-=int_-A^-1$ there exists $c^-_A$ such that $H_A^--c_A^-$ is pointwise convergent; hence $H_epsilon,A-(c^+_A+c^-_A)$ is pointwise convergent.






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    This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
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    Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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Adding another answer because this really has little to do with my previous answer; instead it's a comment on how one might "interpret" things to
reconcile the contradiction between my "yes" and supinf's "no".



We need to be a little careful. Let $$H_epsilon, Af(x)=int_epsilon<f(x-y)fracdyy,$$so $$H=lim_epsilonto0,\AtoinftyH_epsilon, A.$$



supinf gave a simple example of $fin C^alpha$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(0)to-infty$. In fact his example has $Hf(x)=-infty$ for every $x$, so if we want to talk about the Hilbert transform on $C^alpha$ we need to modify the definition. Look at it this way:



Of course the $C^alpha$ norm is just a seminorm. It's clear that $||f||=0$ if and only if $f$ is constant, so we do have a norm on the quotient space $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, consisting of $C^alpha$ modulo constants.



When I said that $H$ was bounded on $C^alpha$ I should have said it was bounded on $X_alpha$. In that context we shouldn't expect pointwise convergence; instead we have this:






True Fact. If $fin C^alpha$ there exist $gin C^alpha$ and constants $c_epsilon,A$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(x)-c_epsilon, Ato g(x)$ for every $x$.






I'm not going to show that $gin C^alpha$ here; that's contained in my previous answer. But I will show that the limit $g(x)$ exists (and is finite) for every $x$; this resolves the contradiction given by supinf: If he'd defined $Hf=g$ then he would not have obtained $Hf=-infty$.



Define $$H=int f(x-y)fracdyy=int_-infty^-1+int_-1^1+int_1^infty=H^-+H^0+H^+.$$



First, $H^0$ is no problem. If we say $H_epsilon^0=int_epsilon<$ then $$H^0f(x)-H_epsilon^0f(x)=int_0^epsilon (f(x-y)-f(x+y)fracdyy;$$since $f(x-y)-f(x+y)=O(y^alpha)$ this shows that in fact $H_epsilon^0 fto H^0f$ uniformly.



Now say $H^+_A=int_1^A$. We do need to subtract a constant $c_A^+$ to get this to converge. The obvious choice is $c_A^+=H_A^+f(0)$, since that certainly gives convergence for $x=0$. If I did the calculus correctly we have
$$beginalignH_A^+f(x)-H_A^+(0)&=int_1-x^1f(-y)frac1y-xdy
\&+int_1^A-xf(-y)left(frac1y-x-frac1yright)dy
\&-int_A-x^Af(-y)fracdyy.endalign$$
The first integral on the RHS is independent of $A$ , while the second integral tends to somethhing finite as $Atoinfty$, since $f(y)=O(y^alpha)$ and $1/(y+x)=1/y=O(1/y^2)$; similarly the tird integral tends to $0$.



Similarly if $H_A^-=int_-A^-1$ there exists $c^-_A$ such that $H_A^--c_A^-$ is pointwise convergent; hence $H_epsilon,A-(c^+_A+c^-_A)$ is pointwise convergent.






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Adding another answer because this really has little to do with my previous answer; instead it's a comment on how one might "interpret" things to
reconcile the contradiction between my "yes" and supinf's "no".



We need to be a little careful. Let $$H_epsilon, Af(x)=int_epsilon<f(x-y)fracdyy,$$so $$H=lim_epsilonto0,\AtoinftyH_epsilon, A.$$



supinf gave a simple example of $fin C^alpha$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(0)to-infty$. In fact his example has $Hf(x)=-infty$ for every $x$, so if we want to talk about the Hilbert transform on $C^alpha$ we need to modify the definition. Look at it this way:



Of course the $C^alpha$ norm is just a seminorm. It's clear that $||f||=0$ if and only if $f$ is constant, so we do have a norm on the quotient space $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, consisting of $C^alpha$ modulo constants.



When I said that $H$ was bounded on $C^alpha$ I should have said it was bounded on $X_alpha$. In that context we shouldn't expect pointwise convergence; instead we have this:






True Fact. If $fin C^alpha$ there exist $gin C^alpha$ and constants $c_epsilon,A$ such that $H_epsilon, Af(x)-c_epsilon, Ato g(x)$ for every $x$.






I'm not going to show that $gin C^alpha$ here; that's contained in my previous answer. But I will show that the limit $g(x)$ exists (and is finite) for every $x$; this resolves the contradiction given by supinf: If he'd defined $Hf=g$ then he would not have obtained $Hf=-infty$.



Define $$H=int f(x-y)fracdyy=int_-infty^-1+int_-1^1+int_1^infty=H^-+H^0+H^+.$$



First, $H^0$ is no problem. If we say $H_epsilon^0=int_epsilon<$ then $$H^0f(x)-H_epsilon^0f(x)=int_0^epsilon (f(x-y)-f(x+y)fracdyy;$$since $f(x-y)-f(x+y)=O(y^alpha)$ this shows that in fact $H_epsilon^0 fto H^0f$ uniformly.



Now say $H^+_A=int_1^A$. We do need to subtract a constant $c_A^+$ to get this to converge. The obvious choice is $c_A^+=H_A^+f(0)$, since that certainly gives convergence for $x=0$. If I did the calculus correctly we have
$$beginalignH_A^+f(x)-H_A^+(0)&=int_1-x^1f(-y)frac1y-xdy
\&+int_1^A-xf(-y)left(frac1y-x-frac1yright)dy
\&-int_A-x^Af(-y)fracdyy.endalign$$
The first integral on the RHS is independent of $A$ , while the second integral tends to somethhing finite as $Atoinfty$, since $f(y)=O(y^alpha)$ and $1/(y+x)=1/y=O(1/y^2)$; similarly the tird integral tends to $0$.



Similarly if $H_A^-=int_-A^-1$ there exists $c^-_A$ such that $H_A^--c_A^-$ is pointwise convergent; hence $H_epsilon,A-(c^+_A+c^-_A)$ is pointwise convergent.







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    This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 12 at 18:15






  • 2




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    Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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    – David C. Ullrich
    Feb 12 at 19:53

















  • $begingroup$
    This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 12 at 18:15






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
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– Giuseppe Negro
Feb 12 at 18:15




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This is an issue that also appears for other function spaces; for example, I read in the book of Tao on nonlinear wave equations that negative order Sobolev spaces should be interpreted as "modulo polynomials". I never understood what he meant but now that you write this I think I get it. Thanks!
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– Giuseppe Negro
Feb 12 at 18:15




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Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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– David C. Ullrich
Feb 12 at 19:53





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Indeed. In any space where $f=sum f_n$ as "above" the convergence is at best modulo polynomials. Because $sumwidehat f_n$ can't see what $hat f$ does at the origin; a distribution with Fourier transform supported at the origin is precisely a polynomial. Here the only polynomials in $C^alpha$ are the constants.
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I believe the answer is yes. Going to cheat, pulling out a big gun.



If $0<alpha<1$ then $C^alpha$ is in fact a Besov space; we have $fin C^alpha$ if and only if $$f=sum_ninBbb Z f_n,$$where $widehatf_n$ is supported in the annulus $$A_n=xi$$and $$2^nalpha||f_n||_inftyle c.$$This sort of decomposition of a Besov space often makes it trivial to determine whether a convolution operator is bounded.



Edit: No, it's not quite right to say $C^alpha$ is a Besov space. What's actually a Besov space is the quotient $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, the space of $C^alpha$ functions modulo constants. I was trying to avoid technical details, but given the other answer showing that taken literally $H$ does not map $C^alpha$ to $C^alpha$ it seems we cannot ignore the issue.



Here for example we're done if we can show that $$||Hf_n||_inftyle c||f_n||_infty,$$and that's actually true, even though $H$ is not bounded on $L^infty$.



Recall that up to an irrelevant constant $$widehatHf(xi)=sgn(xi)hat f(xi).$$Choose a Schwarz function $phi_0$ with $$widehatphi_0(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_0).$$If $phi_n$ is an appropriate dilate of $phi_0$ we have $$widehatphi_n(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_n)$$and $$||phi_n||_1=||phi_0||_1.$$Hence $$Hf_n=phi_n*f_n,$$and hence $$||Hf_n||_inftyle||phi_n||_1||f_n||_infty=||phi_0||_1||f_n||_infty.$$



(The inequality fails for $alpha=1$; one explanation for why is that $Lip_1$ is not a Besov space...)



Why is that, I've been asked. First, $H$ is certainly not bounded on $L^infty$; if $f=chi_(0,infty)$ then $Hf$ is not bounded.



Hence $H$ is not bounded on $Lip_1$. Because, in the sense of distributions, $fin Lip_1$ if and only if $f'in L^infty$. It's clear, say from the Fourier transform, that $H$ commutes with the derivative. So $$||Hf||_Lip_1=||(Hf)'||_infty=||H(f')||_infty
notle c||f'||_infty=c||f||_Lip_1.$$






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    This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
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    Feb 11 at 14:25










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    Was Rudin your advisor?
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    – orange
    Feb 11 at 18:57










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    @orange Why yes.
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    @DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
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    Feb 13 at 13:05







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    Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
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I believe the answer is yes. Going to cheat, pulling out a big gun.



If $0<alpha<1$ then $C^alpha$ is in fact a Besov space; we have $fin C^alpha$ if and only if $$f=sum_ninBbb Z f_n,$$where $widehatf_n$ is supported in the annulus $$A_n=xi$$and $$2^nalpha||f_n||_inftyle c.$$This sort of decomposition of a Besov space often makes it trivial to determine whether a convolution operator is bounded.



Edit: No, it's not quite right to say $C^alpha$ is a Besov space. What's actually a Besov space is the quotient $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, the space of $C^alpha$ functions modulo constants. I was trying to avoid technical details, but given the other answer showing that taken literally $H$ does not map $C^alpha$ to $C^alpha$ it seems we cannot ignore the issue.



Here for example we're done if we can show that $$||Hf_n||_inftyle c||f_n||_infty,$$and that's actually true, even though $H$ is not bounded on $L^infty$.



Recall that up to an irrelevant constant $$widehatHf(xi)=sgn(xi)hat f(xi).$$Choose a Schwarz function $phi_0$ with $$widehatphi_0(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_0).$$If $phi_n$ is an appropriate dilate of $phi_0$ we have $$widehatphi_n(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_n)$$and $$||phi_n||_1=||phi_0||_1.$$Hence $$Hf_n=phi_n*f_n,$$and hence $$||Hf_n||_inftyle||phi_n||_1||f_n||_infty=||phi_0||_1||f_n||_infty.$$



(The inequality fails for $alpha=1$; one explanation for why is that $Lip_1$ is not a Besov space...)



Why is that, I've been asked. First, $H$ is certainly not bounded on $L^infty$; if $f=chi_(0,infty)$ then $Hf$ is not bounded.



Hence $H$ is not bounded on $Lip_1$. Because, in the sense of distributions, $fin Lip_1$ if and only if $f'in L^infty$. It's clear, say from the Fourier transform, that $H$ commutes with the derivative. So $$||Hf||_Lip_1=||(Hf)'||_infty=||H(f')||_infty
notle c||f'||_infty=c||f||_Lip_1.$$






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    This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
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    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:25










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    Was Rudin your advisor?
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    – orange
    Feb 11 at 18:57










  • $begingroup$
    @orange Why yes.
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    – David C. Ullrich
    Feb 12 at 14:15










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    @DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
    $endgroup$
    – VVCM
    Feb 13 at 13:05







  • 1




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    Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
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    – Adrián González-Pérez
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I believe the answer is yes. Going to cheat, pulling out a big gun.



If $0<alpha<1$ then $C^alpha$ is in fact a Besov space; we have $fin C^alpha$ if and only if $$f=sum_ninBbb Z f_n,$$where $widehatf_n$ is supported in the annulus $$A_n=xi$$and $$2^nalpha||f_n||_inftyle c.$$This sort of decomposition of a Besov space often makes it trivial to determine whether a convolution operator is bounded.



Edit: No, it's not quite right to say $C^alpha$ is a Besov space. What's actually a Besov space is the quotient $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, the space of $C^alpha$ functions modulo constants. I was trying to avoid technical details, but given the other answer showing that taken literally $H$ does not map $C^alpha$ to $C^alpha$ it seems we cannot ignore the issue.



Here for example we're done if we can show that $$||Hf_n||_inftyle c||f_n||_infty,$$and that's actually true, even though $H$ is not bounded on $L^infty$.



Recall that up to an irrelevant constant $$widehatHf(xi)=sgn(xi)hat f(xi).$$Choose a Schwarz function $phi_0$ with $$widehatphi_0(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_0).$$If $phi_n$ is an appropriate dilate of $phi_0$ we have $$widehatphi_n(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_n)$$and $$||phi_n||_1=||phi_0||_1.$$Hence $$Hf_n=phi_n*f_n,$$and hence $$||Hf_n||_inftyle||phi_n||_1||f_n||_infty=||phi_0||_1||f_n||_infty.$$



(The inequality fails for $alpha=1$; one explanation for why is that $Lip_1$ is not a Besov space...)



Why is that, I've been asked. First, $H$ is certainly not bounded on $L^infty$; if $f=chi_(0,infty)$ then $Hf$ is not bounded.



Hence $H$ is not bounded on $Lip_1$. Because, in the sense of distributions, $fin Lip_1$ if and only if $f'in L^infty$. It's clear, say from the Fourier transform, that $H$ commutes with the derivative. So $$||Hf||_Lip_1=||(Hf)'||_infty=||H(f')||_infty
notle c||f'||_infty=c||f||_Lip_1.$$






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I believe the answer is yes. Going to cheat, pulling out a big gun.



If $0<alpha<1$ then $C^alpha$ is in fact a Besov space; we have $fin C^alpha$ if and only if $$f=sum_ninBbb Z f_n,$$where $widehatf_n$ is supported in the annulus $$A_n=xi$$and $$2^nalpha||f_n||_inftyle c.$$This sort of decomposition of a Besov space often makes it trivial to determine whether a convolution operator is bounded.



Edit: No, it's not quite right to say $C^alpha$ is a Besov space. What's actually a Besov space is the quotient $X_alpha=C^alpha/Bbb C$, the space of $C^alpha$ functions modulo constants. I was trying to avoid technical details, but given the other answer showing that taken literally $H$ does not map $C^alpha$ to $C^alpha$ it seems we cannot ignore the issue.



Here for example we're done if we can show that $$||Hf_n||_inftyle c||f_n||_infty,$$and that's actually true, even though $H$ is not bounded on $L^infty$.



Recall that up to an irrelevant constant $$widehatHf(xi)=sgn(xi)hat f(xi).$$Choose a Schwarz function $phi_0$ with $$widehatphi_0(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_0).$$If $phi_n$ is an appropriate dilate of $phi_0$ we have $$widehatphi_n(xi)=sgn(xi)quad(xiin A_n)$$and $$||phi_n||_1=||phi_0||_1.$$Hence $$Hf_n=phi_n*f_n,$$and hence $$||Hf_n||_inftyle||phi_n||_1||f_n||_infty=||phi_0||_1||f_n||_infty.$$



(The inequality fails for $alpha=1$; one explanation for why is that $Lip_1$ is not a Besov space...)



Why is that, I've been asked. First, $H$ is certainly not bounded on $L^infty$; if $f=chi_(0,infty)$ then $Hf$ is not bounded.



Hence $H$ is not bounded on $Lip_1$. Because, in the sense of distributions, $fin Lip_1$ if and only if $f'in L^infty$. It's clear, say from the Fourier transform, that $H$ commutes with the derivative. So $$||Hf||_Lip_1=||(Hf)'||_infty=||H(f')||_infty
notle c||f'||_infty=c||f||_Lip_1.$$







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    This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
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    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:25










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    Was Rudin your advisor?
    $endgroup$
    – orange
    Feb 11 at 18:57










  • $begingroup$
    @orange Why yes.
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    – David C. Ullrich
    Feb 12 at 14:15










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    @DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
    $endgroup$
    – VVCM
    Feb 13 at 13:05







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
    $endgroup$
    – Adrián González-Pérez
    Feb 13 at 21:23

















  • $begingroup$
    This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
    $endgroup$
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:25










  • $begingroup$
    Was Rudin your advisor?
    $endgroup$
    – orange
    Feb 11 at 18:57










  • $begingroup$
    @orange Why yes.
    $endgroup$
    – David C. Ullrich
    Feb 12 at 14:15










  • $begingroup$
    @DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
    $endgroup$
    – VVCM
    Feb 13 at 13:05







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
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    – Adrián González-Pérez
    Feb 13 at 21:23
















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This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Feb 11 at 14:25




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This is a great answer, very interesting. It would be even greater if you could give some details on why the estimate fails for $alpha=0$ (the $L^infty$ case) and $alpha=1$.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Feb 11 at 14:25












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Was Rudin your advisor?
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– orange
Feb 11 at 18:57




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Was Rudin your advisor?
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– orange
Feb 11 at 18:57












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@orange Why yes.
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– David C. Ullrich
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@orange Why yes.
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– David C. Ullrich
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@DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
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– VVCM
Feb 13 at 13:05





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@DavidC.Ullrich, can I make this Palley-Littlewood characterization for the $L^p$ spaces?
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– VVCM
Feb 13 at 13:05





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Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
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– Adrián González-Pérez
Feb 13 at 21:23





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Yes, There is a Littlewood-Paley theory for $L^p$, but only for $1 < p < infty$. Nice answer. The fact that the Hilbert transform is bounded between Hölder classes can also be proved without using that the Hilbert transform is a Fourier multiplier. It holds that Calderón-Zygmund operators are bounded over those classes.
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It is not true.



We take the function
$$
f(x) =
begincases
1 &:& xgeq 1,
\ x &:& -1<x<1,
\ -1 &:& xleq -1.
endcases
$$

First, let us verify that $|f|_C^alpha leq 3$.
Let $x,yinmathbb [-1,1]$ be given
(the other cases for $x,y$ are not that interesting, since $f$ has the same value as $f(1)$ or $f(-1)$).
Then
$$
fracx-y
= |x-y|^1-alpha leq 1+|x-y| leq 3.
$$

Thus $fin C^alpha$, i.e. $|f|_C^alpha$ is finite.



Calculating $mathcal Hf$ at $x=0$ yields
$$
mathcal (Hf)(0) =
p.v.int_-infty^infty fracf(-y)y mathrm dy
= int_-infty^-1 frac1y + p.v.int_-1^1 (-1) mathrm dy + int_1^infty frac-1y mathrm dy
= -infty -2 -infty = -infty.
$$

Hence $mathcal Hf$ is not in $C^alpha$ because it is not continuous.
Therefore $|mathcal Hf|=infty$.






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    I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
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    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 14:55










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    The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
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    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:57











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    @CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
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    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:02










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    Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
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    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 15:04










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    @GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
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    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:07















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It is not true.



We take the function
$$
f(x) =
begincases
1 &:& xgeq 1,
\ x &:& -1<x<1,
\ -1 &:& xleq -1.
endcases
$$

First, let us verify that $|f|_C^alpha leq 3$.
Let $x,yinmathbb [-1,1]$ be given
(the other cases for $x,y$ are not that interesting, since $f$ has the same value as $f(1)$ or $f(-1)$).
Then
$$
fracx-y
= |x-y|^1-alpha leq 1+|x-y| leq 3.
$$

Thus $fin C^alpha$, i.e. $|f|_C^alpha$ is finite.



Calculating $mathcal Hf$ at $x=0$ yields
$$
mathcal (Hf)(0) =
p.v.int_-infty^infty fracf(-y)y mathrm dy
= int_-infty^-1 frac1y + p.v.int_-1^1 (-1) mathrm dy + int_1^infty frac-1y mathrm dy
= -infty -2 -infty = -infty.
$$

Hence $mathcal Hf$ is not in $C^alpha$ because it is not continuous.
Therefore $|mathcal Hf|=infty$.






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  • $begingroup$
    I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 14:55










  • $begingroup$
    The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
    $endgroup$
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:57











  • $begingroup$
    @CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
    $endgroup$
    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:02










  • $begingroup$
    Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 15:04










  • $begingroup$
    @GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
    $endgroup$
    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:07













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3





$begingroup$

It is not true.



We take the function
$$
f(x) =
begincases
1 &:& xgeq 1,
\ x &:& -1<x<1,
\ -1 &:& xleq -1.
endcases
$$

First, let us verify that $|f|_C^alpha leq 3$.
Let $x,yinmathbb [-1,1]$ be given
(the other cases for $x,y$ are not that interesting, since $f$ has the same value as $f(1)$ or $f(-1)$).
Then
$$
fracx-y
= |x-y|^1-alpha leq 1+|x-y| leq 3.
$$

Thus $fin C^alpha$, i.e. $|f|_C^alpha$ is finite.



Calculating $mathcal Hf$ at $x=0$ yields
$$
mathcal (Hf)(0) =
p.v.int_-infty^infty fracf(-y)y mathrm dy
= int_-infty^-1 frac1y + p.v.int_-1^1 (-1) mathrm dy + int_1^infty frac-1y mathrm dy
= -infty -2 -infty = -infty.
$$

Hence $mathcal Hf$ is not in $C^alpha$ because it is not continuous.
Therefore $|mathcal Hf|=infty$.






share|cite|improve this answer











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It is not true.



We take the function
$$
f(x) =
begincases
1 &:& xgeq 1,
\ x &:& -1<x<1,
\ -1 &:& xleq -1.
endcases
$$

First, let us verify that $|f|_C^alpha leq 3$.
Let $x,yinmathbb [-1,1]$ be given
(the other cases for $x,y$ are not that interesting, since $f$ has the same value as $f(1)$ or $f(-1)$).
Then
$$
fracx-y
= |x-y|^1-alpha leq 1+|x-y| leq 3.
$$

Thus $fin C^alpha$, i.e. $|f|_C^alpha$ is finite.



Calculating $mathcal Hf$ at $x=0$ yields
$$
mathcal (Hf)(0) =
p.v.int_-infty^infty fracf(-y)y mathrm dy
= int_-infty^-1 frac1y + p.v.int_-1^1 (-1) mathrm dy + int_1^infty frac-1y mathrm dy
= -infty -2 -infty = -infty.
$$

Hence $mathcal Hf$ is not in $C^alpha$ because it is not continuous.
Therefore $|mathcal Hf|=infty$.







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answered Feb 11 at 14:42









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  • $begingroup$
    I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 14:55










  • $begingroup$
    The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
    $endgroup$
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:57











  • $begingroup$
    @CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
    $endgroup$
    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:02










  • $begingroup$
    Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 15:04










  • $begingroup$
    @GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
    $endgroup$
    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:07
















  • $begingroup$
    I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 14:55










  • $begingroup$
    The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
    $endgroup$
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Feb 11 at 14:57











  • $begingroup$
    @CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
    $endgroup$
    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:02










  • $begingroup$
    Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Feb 11 at 15:04










  • $begingroup$
    @GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
    $endgroup$
    – supinf
    Feb 11 at 15:07















$begingroup$
I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
Feb 11 at 14:55




$begingroup$
I have a question, in what sense is $mathcal H f$ defined, since $f$ is not a usual test function?
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
Feb 11 at 14:55












$begingroup$
The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
$endgroup$
– Giuseppe Negro
Feb 11 at 14:57





$begingroup$
The function $f$ must also decay at infinity for the inequality to hold. This decay is implicit in the Besov decomposition of David.
$endgroup$
– Giuseppe Negro
Feb 11 at 14:57













$begingroup$
@CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Feb 11 at 15:02




$begingroup$
@CalvinKhor I used the definition given by VVCM in the original question.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Feb 11 at 15:02












$begingroup$
Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
Feb 11 at 15:04




$begingroup$
Oh, the PV includes a cutoff at infinity. thanks
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
Feb 11 at 15:04












$begingroup$
@GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Feb 11 at 15:07




$begingroup$
@GiuseppeNegro It was not a requirement that the function decays at infinity. Even if the functions vanish at infinity, it might be possible to find a sequence that leads to a contradiction to the inequality conjectured in the original post.
$endgroup$
– supinf
Feb 11 at 15:07

















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