A series that converges but the square of the terms of the series diverges

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I have to give an example of a convergent series $sum a_n$ for which $sum a_n^2 $ diverges.



I think that such a series cannot exist because if $sum a_n$ converges absolutely then $sum a_n^2 $ will always converge right?










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    The implication you said after "because" is true but it's still possible that $sum_n a_n$ converges but not absolutely and $sum_n a_n^2$ does not converge (absolutely nor by any means).
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    The implication you said after "because" is true but it's still possible that $sum_n a_n$ converges but not absolutely and $sum_n a_n^2$ does not converge (absolutely nor by any means).
    – Saucy O'Path
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  • @max_zorn That's if $sum a_n$ converges absolutely.
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  • Yes, you are right Robert, sorry!
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    The implication you said after "because" is true but it's still possible that $sum_n a_n$ converges but not absolutely and $sum_n a_n^2$ does not converge (absolutely nor by any means).
    – Saucy O'Path
    26 mins ago











  • @max_zorn That's if $sum a_n$ converges absolutely.
    – Robert Israel
    22 mins ago










  • Yes, you are right Robert, sorry!
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    The implication you said after "because" is true but it's still possible that $sum_n a_n$ converges but not absolutely and $sum_n a_n^2$ does not converge (absolutely nor by any means).
    – Saucy O'Path
    26 mins ago











  • @max_zorn That's if $sum a_n$ converges absolutely.
    – Robert Israel
    22 mins ago










  • Yes, you are right Robert, sorry!
    – max_zorn
    18 mins ago







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The implication you said after "because" is true but it's still possible that $sum_n a_n$ converges but not absolutely and $sum_n a_n^2$ does not converge (absolutely nor by any means).
– Saucy O'Path
26 mins ago





The implication you said after "because" is true but it's still possible that $sum_n a_n$ converges but not absolutely and $sum_n a_n^2$ does not converge (absolutely nor by any means).
– Saucy O'Path
26 mins ago













@max_zorn That's if $sum a_n$ converges absolutely.
– Robert Israel
22 mins ago




@max_zorn That's if $sum a_n$ converges absolutely.
– Robert Israel
22 mins ago












Yes, you are right Robert, sorry!
– max_zorn
18 mins ago




Yes, you are right Robert, sorry!
– max_zorn
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The alternating series test gives a wealth of examples. Take
$$
a_n=(-1)^n/sqrtn
$$

for example.






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Try $$sum_n=1^infty frac(-1)^nsqrtn$$






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    The simplest example I have in mind is :
    $$sum_n=1^+inftyfrac(-1)^nsqrtn $$



    Beware that convergent (CV) and absolutely convergent (ACV) can be very different.
    Indeed, if $sum_n=1^+infty a_n $ is ACV then, $sum_n=1^+infty a_n^2$ is also ACV. To prove it, you can simply notice that, since $lim a_n=0$ then for $n$ big enough, $|a_n^2|<|a_n|$.



    You can also ask yourself a more general question :
    What are the function $f:mathbb R rightarrow mathbb R$ such that for all
    $sum a_n$ CV (resp. ACV), $sum f(a_n)$ is CV (resp. ACV).



    It is a (difficult) exercise to show that for $f:mathbb Rrightarrow mathbb R$,



    $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,exists lambdain mathbb R,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=lambda x $$



    $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=0 quadquadquad~~$$



    $$sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquad$$ $$quad f(0)=0 text and exists eta>0,exists M >0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, |f(x)|leq M |x| $$



    $$sum a_n ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ $$






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      $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
      – Robert Israel
      23 mins ago










    • oups I answer too fast ^^
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    • Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
      – Oscar Lanzi
      11 mins ago










    • corrected, I also added a more general statement.
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    More generally,
    if $a_n = dfrac(-1)^nn^1/(2m)$,
    then
    $sum_n=1^infty a_n
    $

    converges for integer $m ge 0$
    and
    $sum_n=1^infty a_n^2m
    $

    diverges.






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      The alternating series test gives a wealth of examples. Take
      $$
      a_n=(-1)^n/sqrtn
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      for example.






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      • You beat me to it by $14$ seconds.
        – Robert Israel
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      up vote
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      The alternating series test gives a wealth of examples. Take
      $$
      a_n=(-1)^n/sqrtn
      $$

      for example.






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      • You beat me to it by $14$ seconds.
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      up vote
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      up vote
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      The alternating series test gives a wealth of examples. Take
      $$
      a_n=(-1)^n/sqrtn
      $$

      for example.






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      The alternating series test gives a wealth of examples. Take
      $$
      a_n=(-1)^n/sqrtn
      $$

      for example.







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      You beat me to it by $14$ seconds.
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      You beat me to it by $14$ seconds.
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      Try $$sum_n=1^infty frac(-1)^nsqrtn$$






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        Try $$sum_n=1^infty frac(-1)^nsqrtn$$






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              The simplest example I have in mind is :
              $$sum_n=1^+inftyfrac(-1)^nsqrtn $$



              Beware that convergent (CV) and absolutely convergent (ACV) can be very different.
              Indeed, if $sum_n=1^+infty a_n $ is ACV then, $sum_n=1^+infty a_n^2$ is also ACV. To prove it, you can simply notice that, since $lim a_n=0$ then for $n$ big enough, $|a_n^2|<|a_n|$.



              You can also ask yourself a more general question :
              What are the function $f:mathbb R rightarrow mathbb R$ such that for all
              $sum a_n$ CV (resp. ACV), $sum f(a_n)$ is CV (resp. ACV).



              It is a (difficult) exercise to show that for $f:mathbb Rrightarrow mathbb R$,



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,exists lambdain mathbb R,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=lambda x $$



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=0 quadquadquad~~$$



              $$sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquad$$ $$quad f(0)=0 text and exists eta>0,exists M >0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, |f(x)|leq M |x| $$



              $$sum a_n ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ $$






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                $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
                – Robert Israel
                23 mins ago










              • oups I answer too fast ^^
                – Can I play with Mathness
                20 mins ago










              • Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
                – Oscar Lanzi
                11 mins ago










              • corrected, I also added a more general statement.
                – Can I play with Mathness
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              up vote
              0
              down vote













              The simplest example I have in mind is :
              $$sum_n=1^+inftyfrac(-1)^nsqrtn $$



              Beware that convergent (CV) and absolutely convergent (ACV) can be very different.
              Indeed, if $sum_n=1^+infty a_n $ is ACV then, $sum_n=1^+infty a_n^2$ is also ACV. To prove it, you can simply notice that, since $lim a_n=0$ then for $n$ big enough, $|a_n^2|<|a_n|$.



              You can also ask yourself a more general question :
              What are the function $f:mathbb R rightarrow mathbb R$ such that for all
              $sum a_n$ CV (resp. ACV), $sum f(a_n)$ is CV (resp. ACV).



              It is a (difficult) exercise to show that for $f:mathbb Rrightarrow mathbb R$,



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,exists lambdain mathbb R,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=lambda x $$



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=0 quadquadquad~~$$



              $$sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquad$$ $$quad f(0)=0 text and exists eta>0,exists M >0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, |f(x)|leq M |x| $$



              $$sum a_n ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ $$






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                $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
                – Robert Israel
                23 mins ago










              • oups I answer too fast ^^
                – Can I play with Mathness
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              • Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
                – Oscar Lanzi
                11 mins ago










              • corrected, I also added a more general statement.
                – Can I play with Mathness
                10 mins ago












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              The simplest example I have in mind is :
              $$sum_n=1^+inftyfrac(-1)^nsqrtn $$



              Beware that convergent (CV) and absolutely convergent (ACV) can be very different.
              Indeed, if $sum_n=1^+infty a_n $ is ACV then, $sum_n=1^+infty a_n^2$ is also ACV. To prove it, you can simply notice that, since $lim a_n=0$ then for $n$ big enough, $|a_n^2|<|a_n|$.



              You can also ask yourself a more general question :
              What are the function $f:mathbb R rightarrow mathbb R$ such that for all
              $sum a_n$ CV (resp. ACV), $sum f(a_n)$ is CV (resp. ACV).



              It is a (difficult) exercise to show that for $f:mathbb Rrightarrow mathbb R$,



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,exists lambdain mathbb R,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=lambda x $$



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=0 quadquadquad~~$$



              $$sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquad$$ $$quad f(0)=0 text and exists eta>0,exists M >0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, |f(x)|leq M |x| $$



              $$sum a_n ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ $$






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              The simplest example I have in mind is :
              $$sum_n=1^+inftyfrac(-1)^nsqrtn $$



              Beware that convergent (CV) and absolutely convergent (ACV) can be very different.
              Indeed, if $sum_n=1^+infty a_n $ is ACV then, $sum_n=1^+infty a_n^2$ is also ACV. To prove it, you can simply notice that, since $lim a_n=0$ then for $n$ big enough, $|a_n^2|<|a_n|$.



              You can also ask yourself a more general question :
              What are the function $f:mathbb R rightarrow mathbb R$ such that for all
              $sum a_n$ CV (resp. ACV), $sum f(a_n)$ is CV (resp. ACV).



              It is a (difficult) exercise to show that for $f:mathbb Rrightarrow mathbb R$,



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,exists lambdain mathbb R,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=lambda x $$



              $$sum a_n ~CV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quad exists eta>0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, quad f(x)=0 quadquadquad~~$$



              $$sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV quad textiff quadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquadquad$$ $$quad f(0)=0 text and exists eta>0,exists M >0,forall xin ]-eta,eta[, |f(x)|leq M |x| $$



              $$sum a_n ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~CV quad textiff quad sum a_n ~ACV Rightarrow sum f(a_n) ~ACV~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ $$







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                $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
                – Robert Israel
                23 mins ago










              • oups I answer too fast ^^
                – Can I play with Mathness
                20 mins ago










              • Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
                – Oscar Lanzi
                11 mins ago










              • corrected, I also added a more general statement.
                – Can I play with Mathness
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                $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
                – Robert Israel
                23 mins ago










              • oups I answer too fast ^^
                – Can I play with Mathness
                20 mins ago










              • Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
                – Oscar Lanzi
                11 mins ago










              • corrected, I also added a more general statement.
                – Can I play with Mathness
                10 mins ago







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              $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
              – Robert Israel
              23 mins ago




              $sum_n a_n^2$ converges for this one.
              – Robert Israel
              23 mins ago












              oups I answer too fast ^^
              – Can I play with Mathness
              20 mins ago




              oups I answer too fast ^^
              – Can I play with Mathness
              20 mins ago












              Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
              – Oscar Lanzi
              11 mins ago




              Can you correct it? Want to upvote the distinction between ACV and CV but can't bring myself to do it with the error
              – Oscar Lanzi
              11 mins ago












              corrected, I also added a more general statement.
              – Can I play with Mathness
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              corrected, I also added a more general statement.
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              More generally,
              if $a_n = dfrac(-1)^nn^1/(2m)$,
              then
              $sum_n=1^infty a_n
              $

              converges for integer $m ge 0$
              and
              $sum_n=1^infty a_n^2m
              $

              diverges.






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                More generally,
                if $a_n = dfrac(-1)^nn^1/(2m)$,
                then
                $sum_n=1^infty a_n
                $

                converges for integer $m ge 0$
                and
                $sum_n=1^infty a_n^2m
                $

                diverges.






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                  More generally,
                  if $a_n = dfrac(-1)^nn^1/(2m)$,
                  then
                  $sum_n=1^infty a_n
                  $

                  converges for integer $m ge 0$
                  and
                  $sum_n=1^infty a_n^2m
                  $

                  diverges.






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                  More generally,
                  if $a_n = dfrac(-1)^nn^1/(2m)$,
                  then
                  $sum_n=1^infty a_n
                  $

                  converges for integer $m ge 0$
                  and
                  $sum_n=1^infty a_n^2m
                  $

                  diverges.







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