Etiquette of playing musical instruments on popular hikes

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I enjoy hiking, but I'm not very well-versed with the general expectations other people have about noise, especially serious hikers. I generally do trails that take between 3-6 hours, usually up hills/mountains (depending on your definition) on the Appalachian Trail. Often those trails are popular enough that if it's a nice day, I'll see another group every 10 minutes or so, and if there's an overlook at the top there may be a good 8-15 people up there at any point, usually a mix of casual hikers like me and others just passing through on their way up/down the Appalachian Trail.



Some of the groups I've gone with enjoy singing while hiking, or while resting at the top, and a couple of times I've brought an instrument (clarinet) along, to play both during the hike and at the summit. I do enjoy playing like that, but I don't want to bother people unnecessarily; I don't really have a good understanding for how far the sounds carries, or how other hikers, especially serious ones, feel about the noise.



Let's assume that the instrument is being reasonably well-played (i.e. gentle tone, not squeaking/squealing, with not so many missed notes as to be distracting), because otherwise I'm sure the answer can't be anything besides "Please stop".




Is there any general etiquette or expectations about playing/making music on hiking trails?




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  • Public trails are just that, Public. In my opinion, if you're not breaking laws or causing harm to the environment, then you can do what you like. If I don't like what you are doing, it's up to me to leave the area. Note that excess noise may be considered "disturbing" when it comes to nesting areas or protected species.
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    My rule is always use your best judgment, if people seem annoyed you should just finish and be done.
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I enjoy hiking, but I'm not very well-versed with the general expectations other people have about noise, especially serious hikers. I generally do trails that take between 3-6 hours, usually up hills/mountains (depending on your definition) on the Appalachian Trail. Often those trails are popular enough that if it's a nice day, I'll see another group every 10 minutes or so, and if there's an overlook at the top there may be a good 8-15 people up there at any point, usually a mix of casual hikers like me and others just passing through on their way up/down the Appalachian Trail.



Some of the groups I've gone with enjoy singing while hiking, or while resting at the top, and a couple of times I've brought an instrument (clarinet) along, to play both during the hike and at the summit. I do enjoy playing like that, but I don't want to bother people unnecessarily; I don't really have a good understanding for how far the sounds carries, or how other hikers, especially serious ones, feel about the noise.



Let's assume that the instrument is being reasonably well-played (i.e. gentle tone, not squeaking/squealing, with not so many missed notes as to be distracting), because otherwise I'm sure the answer can't be anything besides "Please stop".




Is there any general etiquette or expectations about playing/making music on hiking trails?




I'm also linking this tangentially-related question on whether playing musical instruments while hiking is sufficient to keep away animals.










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  • Public trails are just that, Public. In my opinion, if you're not breaking laws or causing harm to the environment, then you can do what you like. If I don't like what you are doing, it's up to me to leave the area. Note that excess noise may be considered "disturbing" when it comes to nesting areas or protected species.
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    My rule is always use your best judgment, if people seem annoyed you should just finish and be done.
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I enjoy hiking, but I'm not very well-versed with the general expectations other people have about noise, especially serious hikers. I generally do trails that take between 3-6 hours, usually up hills/mountains (depending on your definition) on the Appalachian Trail. Often those trails are popular enough that if it's a nice day, I'll see another group every 10 minutes or so, and if there's an overlook at the top there may be a good 8-15 people up there at any point, usually a mix of casual hikers like me and others just passing through on their way up/down the Appalachian Trail.



Some of the groups I've gone with enjoy singing while hiking, or while resting at the top, and a couple of times I've brought an instrument (clarinet) along, to play both during the hike and at the summit. I do enjoy playing like that, but I don't want to bother people unnecessarily; I don't really have a good understanding for how far the sounds carries, or how other hikers, especially serious ones, feel about the noise.



Let's assume that the instrument is being reasonably well-played (i.e. gentle tone, not squeaking/squealing, with not so many missed notes as to be distracting), because otherwise I'm sure the answer can't be anything besides "Please stop".




Is there any general etiquette or expectations about playing/making music on hiking trails?




I'm also linking this tangentially-related question on whether playing musical instruments while hiking is sufficient to keep away animals.










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I enjoy hiking, but I'm not very well-versed with the general expectations other people have about noise, especially serious hikers. I generally do trails that take between 3-6 hours, usually up hills/mountains (depending on your definition) on the Appalachian Trail. Often those trails are popular enough that if it's a nice day, I'll see another group every 10 minutes or so, and if there's an overlook at the top there may be a good 8-15 people up there at any point, usually a mix of casual hikers like me and others just passing through on their way up/down the Appalachian Trail.



Some of the groups I've gone with enjoy singing while hiking, or while resting at the top, and a couple of times I've brought an instrument (clarinet) along, to play both during the hike and at the summit. I do enjoy playing like that, but I don't want to bother people unnecessarily; I don't really have a good understanding for how far the sounds carries, or how other hikers, especially serious ones, feel about the noise.



Let's assume that the instrument is being reasonably well-played (i.e. gentle tone, not squeaking/squealing, with not so many missed notes as to be distracting), because otherwise I'm sure the answer can't be anything besides "Please stop".




Is there any general etiquette or expectations about playing/making music on hiking trails?




I'm also linking this tangentially-related question on whether playing musical instruments while hiking is sufficient to keep away animals.







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  • Public trails are just that, Public. In my opinion, if you're not breaking laws or causing harm to the environment, then you can do what you like. If I don't like what you are doing, it's up to me to leave the area. Note that excess noise may be considered "disturbing" when it comes to nesting areas or protected species.
    – B540Glenn
    10 hours ago






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    My rule is always use your best judgment, if people seem annoyed you should just finish and be done.
    – JIMMYPlay
    8 hours ago
















  • Public trails are just that, Public. In my opinion, if you're not breaking laws or causing harm to the environment, then you can do what you like. If I don't like what you are doing, it's up to me to leave the area. Note that excess noise may be considered "disturbing" when it comes to nesting areas or protected species.
    – B540Glenn
    10 hours ago






  • 1




    My rule is always use your best judgment, if people seem annoyed you should just finish and be done.
    – JIMMYPlay
    8 hours ago















Public trails are just that, Public. In my opinion, if you're not breaking laws or causing harm to the environment, then you can do what you like. If I don't like what you are doing, it's up to me to leave the area. Note that excess noise may be considered "disturbing" when it comes to nesting areas or protected species.
– B540Glenn
10 hours ago




Public trails are just that, Public. In my opinion, if you're not breaking laws or causing harm to the environment, then you can do what you like. If I don't like what you are doing, it's up to me to leave the area. Note that excess noise may be considered "disturbing" when it comes to nesting areas or protected species.
– B540Glenn
10 hours ago




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My rule is always use your best judgment, if people seem annoyed you should just finish and be done.
– JIMMYPlay
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My rule is always use your best judgment, if people seem annoyed you should just finish and be done.
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I can only speak from experience, but I'll share what I have seen. The following paragraphs are ordered from least desirable to most.



In every case where people have been playing music on a speaker of some kind (including phone), people on the trails around them show signs of being annoyed. I believe this is acceptable behavior in some other countries which is why I mostly see foreigners (and inexperienced hikers) engaging in this breach of etiquette.



I have seen several trumpets and even a trombone being played on trails. This has been met with annoyance as brass instruments' sound can travel a long distance and disturb the natural sounds that hikers expect. As for the trombone, people were mostly confused because of how unusual it was (he was playing jazz tunes awaiting some girl who was hiking toward him so he could propose. It was really weird.).



Woodwind instruments are less likely to make people upset, mainly because they have softer tones and the sound doesn't travel very far. String instruments are similarly more acceptable.



Instruments that people probably won't mind, or might even enjoy, hearing on a hike are those that are associated with the cultural heritage of the outdoors (think pioneers, cowboys, etc.). Harmonicas, wooden flutes, violins (particularly if playing fiddle music), and acoustic guitars are usually acceptable for trails, so long as you aren't too loud, getting in people's way, or making a spectacle.



In any instance you want to play an instrument on a trail, I would not start playing anywhere people are already gathered. Find a spot where you are alone and then you can start playing. That will give people the option of stopping to listen to you if they want, or continue on. If you start playing near where people are already hanging out, you are forcing them to move or confront you if they aren't interested in your music.






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    It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
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    Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
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  • What about bagpipes?
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  • During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
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I, and the people I hike with do not appreciate music on the trails. If you want music use headphones. We try to hike the least popular trails to avoid encountering blaring music. We are out in nature to experience nature.






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  • Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
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Just don't play your music with the aid of any electronic speakers. People sing and talk and laugh as they hike and that's fine, its when they start blaring music on their waterproof bluetooth speakers that it starts to get annoying.



Just note that it will make you less aware of your surroundings, I have seen plenty of people not realize that I was hiking right behind them because their music was too loud and they weren't paying attention.






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  • Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
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My input is if it is loud enough they cannot easily carry on a conversation then it is too loud.



On a crowed peak maybe one song as a celebration then shut it down. If you get an applause then one more.



On the trail if they can walk by then never a problem.



A crowed lookout I would say no. Pick a more secluded spot to sing.






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    I'm not familiar with any general etiquette too. But I would say if someone is hiking on a popular trail, they can't expect silence and/or not to hear other people.
    I can only speak for myself but I would like to hear music now and then while hiking






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      Being noisy in public is generally annoying for people around you, regardless of what kind of noise it is. (Exceptions apply, e.g. sporting events where being noisy is expected)



      Playing an instrument on hiking trails is a specific case of "being noisy".



      One of the main reasons people are on trails in the first place is to get away from noise and people. While it may be perfectly legal and tolerated by fellow hikers, I doubt you will find a single person who wants you to play music on the trail.






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        Would you start playing the clarinet on a bus? It's also noisy, somehow. People also wouldn't expect complete silence. Would you be the one to guarantee there is no possibility of silence at all?



        Public places are just that: public. There are people and if you play music, everyone is forced to hear it. If you pee on the ground, everyone is forced to smell it. If you litter, everyone is forced to walk around garbage. From where I'm from, etiquette regarding outdoor activities is very simple: try to minimize what you subject other people to as much as possible. If I can pee in a far away place where the smell won't bother anyone, that's where I'll go; if I can carry my garbage with me, I will; if I can play an instrument being absolutely sure I'm not upsetting someone, then that's OK.



        The problem is: can you be sure? Do you know what's the mean distance your instrument reaches? People around you might enjoy your playing, but do people 500m from there feel OK about it too? How can you be sure? There are also animals around - do they love it? I'm positive most animals don't care about where I pee, but I'm also sure littering won't do them any good. Are you sure you're not disturbing?



        I think my position has become clear: I'm totally against any kind of outdoors musicality. I often climb big walls where I'm supposed to sleep three, four days on the wall, and some friends sometimes bring ukeleles. I hate it. I tolerate it because usually the other two guys enjoy the music and I'm in a smaller number, but I hate it. I hate to see people playing instruments or hearing loud music on trails. I think it's an absolute lack of respect for the others and for your surroundings. The safest way to be respectful is to be clean, to be silent, to be invisible - to walk and climb as if you were a shadow. I'm positive you'll sense that acting this way you'll cease to be a tourist and start being a part of the landscape. You will be more attentive and feel nature more intensely.



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          I can only speak from experience, but I'll share what I have seen. The following paragraphs are ordered from least desirable to most.



          In every case where people have been playing music on a speaker of some kind (including phone), people on the trails around them show signs of being annoyed. I believe this is acceptable behavior in some other countries which is why I mostly see foreigners (and inexperienced hikers) engaging in this breach of etiquette.



          I have seen several trumpets and even a trombone being played on trails. This has been met with annoyance as brass instruments' sound can travel a long distance and disturb the natural sounds that hikers expect. As for the trombone, people were mostly confused because of how unusual it was (he was playing jazz tunes awaiting some girl who was hiking toward him so he could propose. It was really weird.).



          Woodwind instruments are less likely to make people upset, mainly because they have softer tones and the sound doesn't travel very far. String instruments are similarly more acceptable.



          Instruments that people probably won't mind, or might even enjoy, hearing on a hike are those that are associated with the cultural heritage of the outdoors (think pioneers, cowboys, etc.). Harmonicas, wooden flutes, violins (particularly if playing fiddle music), and acoustic guitars are usually acceptable for trails, so long as you aren't too loud, getting in people's way, or making a spectacle.



          In any instance you want to play an instrument on a trail, I would not start playing anywhere people are already gathered. Find a spot where you are alone and then you can start playing. That will give people the option of stopping to listen to you if they want, or continue on. If you start playing near where people are already hanging out, you are forcing them to move or confront you if they aren't interested in your music.






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            It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
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            Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
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          • @Karen you are absolutely right. I added that in.
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          • What about bagpipes?
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          • During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
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          I can only speak from experience, but I'll share what I have seen. The following paragraphs are ordered from least desirable to most.



          In every case where people have been playing music on a speaker of some kind (including phone), people on the trails around them show signs of being annoyed. I believe this is acceptable behavior in some other countries which is why I mostly see foreigners (and inexperienced hikers) engaging in this breach of etiquette.



          I have seen several trumpets and even a trombone being played on trails. This has been met with annoyance as brass instruments' sound can travel a long distance and disturb the natural sounds that hikers expect. As for the trombone, people were mostly confused because of how unusual it was (he was playing jazz tunes awaiting some girl who was hiking toward him so he could propose. It was really weird.).



          Woodwind instruments are less likely to make people upset, mainly because they have softer tones and the sound doesn't travel very far. String instruments are similarly more acceptable.



          Instruments that people probably won't mind, or might even enjoy, hearing on a hike are those that are associated with the cultural heritage of the outdoors (think pioneers, cowboys, etc.). Harmonicas, wooden flutes, violins (particularly if playing fiddle music), and acoustic guitars are usually acceptable for trails, so long as you aren't too loud, getting in people's way, or making a spectacle.



          In any instance you want to play an instrument on a trail, I would not start playing anywhere people are already gathered. Find a spot where you are alone and then you can start playing. That will give people the option of stopping to listen to you if they want, or continue on. If you start playing near where people are already hanging out, you are forcing them to move or confront you if they aren't interested in your music.






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            It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
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            Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
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          • What about bagpipes?
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          • During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
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          I can only speak from experience, but I'll share what I have seen. The following paragraphs are ordered from least desirable to most.



          In every case where people have been playing music on a speaker of some kind (including phone), people on the trails around them show signs of being annoyed. I believe this is acceptable behavior in some other countries which is why I mostly see foreigners (and inexperienced hikers) engaging in this breach of etiquette.



          I have seen several trumpets and even a trombone being played on trails. This has been met with annoyance as brass instruments' sound can travel a long distance and disturb the natural sounds that hikers expect. As for the trombone, people were mostly confused because of how unusual it was (he was playing jazz tunes awaiting some girl who was hiking toward him so he could propose. It was really weird.).



          Woodwind instruments are less likely to make people upset, mainly because they have softer tones and the sound doesn't travel very far. String instruments are similarly more acceptable.



          Instruments that people probably won't mind, or might even enjoy, hearing on a hike are those that are associated with the cultural heritage of the outdoors (think pioneers, cowboys, etc.). Harmonicas, wooden flutes, violins (particularly if playing fiddle music), and acoustic guitars are usually acceptable for trails, so long as you aren't too loud, getting in people's way, or making a spectacle.



          In any instance you want to play an instrument on a trail, I would not start playing anywhere people are already gathered. Find a spot where you are alone and then you can start playing. That will give people the option of stopping to listen to you if they want, or continue on. If you start playing near where people are already hanging out, you are forcing them to move or confront you if they aren't interested in your music.






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          I can only speak from experience, but I'll share what I have seen. The following paragraphs are ordered from least desirable to most.



          In every case where people have been playing music on a speaker of some kind (including phone), people on the trails around them show signs of being annoyed. I believe this is acceptable behavior in some other countries which is why I mostly see foreigners (and inexperienced hikers) engaging in this breach of etiquette.



          I have seen several trumpets and even a trombone being played on trails. This has been met with annoyance as brass instruments' sound can travel a long distance and disturb the natural sounds that hikers expect. As for the trombone, people were mostly confused because of how unusual it was (he was playing jazz tunes awaiting some girl who was hiking toward him so he could propose. It was really weird.).



          Woodwind instruments are less likely to make people upset, mainly because they have softer tones and the sound doesn't travel very far. String instruments are similarly more acceptable.



          Instruments that people probably won't mind, or might even enjoy, hearing on a hike are those that are associated with the cultural heritage of the outdoors (think pioneers, cowboys, etc.). Harmonicas, wooden flutes, violins (particularly if playing fiddle music), and acoustic guitars are usually acceptable for trails, so long as you aren't too loud, getting in people's way, or making a spectacle.



          In any instance you want to play an instrument on a trail, I would not start playing anywhere people are already gathered. Find a spot where you are alone and then you can start playing. That will give people the option of stopping to listen to you if they want, or continue on. If you start playing near where people are already hanging out, you are forcing them to move or confront you if they aren't interested in your music.







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            It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
            – imsodin
            7 hours ago






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            Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
            – Karen
            7 hours ago










          • @Karen you are absolutely right. I added that in.
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          • What about bagpipes?
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          • During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
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            It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
            – imsodin
            7 hours ago






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            Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
            – Karen
            7 hours ago










          • @Karen you are absolutely right. I added that in.
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          • What about bagpipes?
            – IMil
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          • During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
            – IconDaemon
            1 hour ago







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          It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
          – imsodin
          7 hours ago




          It may have been truly weird and not adequate in this case, but I would say that a proposal is a good reason for a breach of etiquette :) Also I wouldn't say not to play if there already are people gathered at a place, but to ask - if the musician is good, I would personally very much enjoy a bit of music.
          – imsodin
          7 hours ago




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          2




          Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
          – Karen
          7 hours ago




          Good answer. I'd add "inexperienced hikers" to the people who use speakers. I've mostly seen people playing music over speakers while hiking on trails with easy urban access, and the people playing it mostly dress like people who don't hike often.
          – Karen
          7 hours ago












          @Karen you are absolutely right. I added that in.
          – BlackThorn
          5 hours ago





          @Karen you are absolutely right. I added that in.
          – BlackThorn
          5 hours ago













          What about bagpipes?
          – IMil
          1 hour ago




          What about bagpipes?
          – IMil
          1 hour ago












          During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
          – IconDaemon
          1 hour ago




          During the summers of '95 & '96, I took a Martin Backpacker with me on the trails in the Adirondack high peaks in NY, and in the Presidentials in NH. At common shelter and tenting areas, I accompanied many a rendition of "This Land is Your Land" and other golden campfire songs. I best enjoyed handing off Gertie to others who needed to caress the steel strings for a while; to learn and to teach new songs and new fingerings. The occasional penny flute and harmonica was welcome, but the sound of human voices in harmony under the starts was sublime.
          – IconDaemon
          1 hour ago










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          I, and the people I hike with do not appreciate music on the trails. If you want music use headphones. We try to hike the least popular trails to avoid encountering blaring music. We are out in nature to experience nature.






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          • Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
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          I, and the people I hike with do not appreciate music on the trails. If you want music use headphones. We try to hike the least popular trails to avoid encountering blaring music. We are out in nature to experience nature.






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          • Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
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          I, and the people I hike with do not appreciate music on the trails. If you want music use headphones. We try to hike the least popular trails to avoid encountering blaring music. We are out in nature to experience nature.






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          I, and the people I hike with do not appreciate music on the trails. If you want music use headphones. We try to hike the least popular trails to avoid encountering blaring music. We are out in nature to experience nature.







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          • Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
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          • Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
            – CramerTV
            8 hours ago















          Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
          – CramerTV
          8 hours ago




          Especially at the summit I like to hear the wind, birds, and any other animals that happen to be scurrying about. Music typically scares them away and thus the nature in nature will be absent. When walking around the trails in the neighborhood I've stopped to listen to folks playing far eastern instruments or singing and really enjoyed it. But I also hear cars, airplanes and such so the human music is much appreciated when compared to mechanical noise.
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          Just don't play your music with the aid of any electronic speakers. People sing and talk and laugh as they hike and that's fine, its when they start blaring music on their waterproof bluetooth speakers that it starts to get annoying.



          Just note that it will make you less aware of your surroundings, I have seen plenty of people not realize that I was hiking right behind them because their music was too loud and they weren't paying attention.






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          • Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
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          Just don't play your music with the aid of any electronic speakers. People sing and talk and laugh as they hike and that's fine, its when they start blaring music on their waterproof bluetooth speakers that it starts to get annoying.



          Just note that it will make you less aware of your surroundings, I have seen plenty of people not realize that I was hiking right behind them because their music was too loud and they weren't paying attention.






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          • Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
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          Just don't play your music with the aid of any electronic speakers. People sing and talk and laugh as they hike and that's fine, its when they start blaring music on their waterproof bluetooth speakers that it starts to get annoying.



          Just note that it will make you less aware of your surroundings, I have seen plenty of people not realize that I was hiking right behind them because their music was too loud and they weren't paying attention.






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          Just don't play your music with the aid of any electronic speakers. People sing and talk and laugh as they hike and that's fine, its when they start blaring music on their waterproof bluetooth speakers that it starts to get annoying.



          Just note that it will make you less aware of your surroundings, I have seen plenty of people not realize that I was hiking right behind them because their music was too loud and they weren't paying attention.







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          • Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
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          • Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
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          Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
          – Aravona
          8 hours ago




          Don't you just love someone walking by, sat on the bus, on a bike, with their phone speaker making a hash of blaring out music? Yes this is the best....... We use a speaker when we're sat somewhere for a while or camping, but not too loud and respect campsite quiet hours.
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          My input is if it is loud enough they cannot easily carry on a conversation then it is too loud.



          On a crowed peak maybe one song as a celebration then shut it down. If you get an applause then one more.



          On the trail if they can walk by then never a problem.



          A crowed lookout I would say no. Pick a more secluded spot to sing.






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            My input is if it is loud enough they cannot easily carry on a conversation then it is too loud.



            On a crowed peak maybe one song as a celebration then shut it down. If you get an applause then one more.



            On the trail if they can walk by then never a problem.



            A crowed lookout I would say no. Pick a more secluded spot to sing.






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              My input is if it is loud enough they cannot easily carry on a conversation then it is too loud.



              On a crowed peak maybe one song as a celebration then shut it down. If you get an applause then one more.



              On the trail if they can walk by then never a problem.



              A crowed lookout I would say no. Pick a more secluded spot to sing.






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              My input is if it is loud enough they cannot easily carry on a conversation then it is too loud.



              On a crowed peak maybe one song as a celebration then shut it down. If you get an applause then one more.



              On the trail if they can walk by then never a problem.



              A crowed lookout I would say no. Pick a more secluded spot to sing.







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                  I'm not familiar with any general etiquette too. But I would say if someone is hiking on a popular trail, they can't expect silence and/or not to hear other people.
                  I can only speak for myself but I would like to hear music now and then while hiking






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                    I'm not familiar with any general etiquette too. But I would say if someone is hiking on a popular trail, they can't expect silence and/or not to hear other people.
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                      I can only speak for myself but I would like to hear music now and then while hiking







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                          Being noisy in public is generally annoying for people around you, regardless of what kind of noise it is. (Exceptions apply, e.g. sporting events where being noisy is expected)



                          Playing an instrument on hiking trails is a specific case of "being noisy".



                          One of the main reasons people are on trails in the first place is to get away from noise and people. While it may be perfectly legal and tolerated by fellow hikers, I doubt you will find a single person who wants you to play music on the trail.






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                            Being noisy in public is generally annoying for people around you, regardless of what kind of noise it is. (Exceptions apply, e.g. sporting events where being noisy is expected)



                            Playing an instrument on hiking trails is a specific case of "being noisy".



                            One of the main reasons people are on trails in the first place is to get away from noise and people. While it may be perfectly legal and tolerated by fellow hikers, I doubt you will find a single person who wants you to play music on the trail.






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                              Being noisy in public is generally annoying for people around you, regardless of what kind of noise it is. (Exceptions apply, e.g. sporting events where being noisy is expected)



                              Playing an instrument on hiking trails is a specific case of "being noisy".



                              One of the main reasons people are on trails in the first place is to get away from noise and people. While it may be perfectly legal and tolerated by fellow hikers, I doubt you will find a single person who wants you to play music on the trail.






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                              Being noisy in public is generally annoying for people around you, regardless of what kind of noise it is. (Exceptions apply, e.g. sporting events where being noisy is expected)



                              Playing an instrument on hiking trails is a specific case of "being noisy".



                              One of the main reasons people are on trails in the first place is to get away from noise and people. While it may be perfectly legal and tolerated by fellow hikers, I doubt you will find a single person who wants you to play music on the trail.







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                                  Would you start playing the clarinet on a bus? It's also noisy, somehow. People also wouldn't expect complete silence. Would you be the one to guarantee there is no possibility of silence at all?



                                  Public places are just that: public. There are people and if you play music, everyone is forced to hear it. If you pee on the ground, everyone is forced to smell it. If you litter, everyone is forced to walk around garbage. From where I'm from, etiquette regarding outdoor activities is very simple: try to minimize what you subject other people to as much as possible. If I can pee in a far away place where the smell won't bother anyone, that's where I'll go; if I can carry my garbage with me, I will; if I can play an instrument being absolutely sure I'm not upsetting someone, then that's OK.



                                  The problem is: can you be sure? Do you know what's the mean distance your instrument reaches? People around you might enjoy your playing, but do people 500m from there feel OK about it too? How can you be sure? There are also animals around - do they love it? I'm positive most animals don't care about where I pee, but I'm also sure littering won't do them any good. Are you sure you're not disturbing?



                                  I think my position has become clear: I'm totally against any kind of outdoors musicality. I often climb big walls where I'm supposed to sleep three, four days on the wall, and some friends sometimes bring ukeleles. I hate it. I tolerate it because usually the other two guys enjoy the music and I'm in a smaller number, but I hate it. I hate to see people playing instruments or hearing loud music on trails. I think it's an absolute lack of respect for the others and for your surroundings. The safest way to be respectful is to be clean, to be silent, to be invisible - to walk and climb as if you were a shadow. I'm positive you'll sense that acting this way you'll cease to be a tourist and start being a part of the landscape. You will be more attentive and feel nature more intensely.



                                  P.S.: I'm a grumpy person.






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                                    Would you start playing the clarinet on a bus? It's also noisy, somehow. People also wouldn't expect complete silence. Would you be the one to guarantee there is no possibility of silence at all?



                                    Public places are just that: public. There are people and if you play music, everyone is forced to hear it. If you pee on the ground, everyone is forced to smell it. If you litter, everyone is forced to walk around garbage. From where I'm from, etiquette regarding outdoor activities is very simple: try to minimize what you subject other people to as much as possible. If I can pee in a far away place where the smell won't bother anyone, that's where I'll go; if I can carry my garbage with me, I will; if I can play an instrument being absolutely sure I'm not upsetting someone, then that's OK.



                                    The problem is: can you be sure? Do you know what's the mean distance your instrument reaches? People around you might enjoy your playing, but do people 500m from there feel OK about it too? How can you be sure? There are also animals around - do they love it? I'm positive most animals don't care about where I pee, but I'm also sure littering won't do them any good. Are you sure you're not disturbing?



                                    I think my position has become clear: I'm totally against any kind of outdoors musicality. I often climb big walls where I'm supposed to sleep three, four days on the wall, and some friends sometimes bring ukeleles. I hate it. I tolerate it because usually the other two guys enjoy the music and I'm in a smaller number, but I hate it. I hate to see people playing instruments or hearing loud music on trails. I think it's an absolute lack of respect for the others and for your surroundings. The safest way to be respectful is to be clean, to be silent, to be invisible - to walk and climb as if you were a shadow. I'm positive you'll sense that acting this way you'll cease to be a tourist and start being a part of the landscape. You will be more attentive and feel nature more intensely.



                                    P.S.: I'm a grumpy person.






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                                      Would you start playing the clarinet on a bus? It's also noisy, somehow. People also wouldn't expect complete silence. Would you be the one to guarantee there is no possibility of silence at all?



                                      Public places are just that: public. There are people and if you play music, everyone is forced to hear it. If you pee on the ground, everyone is forced to smell it. If you litter, everyone is forced to walk around garbage. From where I'm from, etiquette regarding outdoor activities is very simple: try to minimize what you subject other people to as much as possible. If I can pee in a far away place where the smell won't bother anyone, that's where I'll go; if I can carry my garbage with me, I will; if I can play an instrument being absolutely sure I'm not upsetting someone, then that's OK.



                                      The problem is: can you be sure? Do you know what's the mean distance your instrument reaches? People around you might enjoy your playing, but do people 500m from there feel OK about it too? How can you be sure? There are also animals around - do they love it? I'm positive most animals don't care about where I pee, but I'm also sure littering won't do them any good. Are you sure you're not disturbing?



                                      I think my position has become clear: I'm totally against any kind of outdoors musicality. I often climb big walls where I'm supposed to sleep three, four days on the wall, and some friends sometimes bring ukeleles. I hate it. I tolerate it because usually the other two guys enjoy the music and I'm in a smaller number, but I hate it. I hate to see people playing instruments or hearing loud music on trails. I think it's an absolute lack of respect for the others and for your surroundings. The safest way to be respectful is to be clean, to be silent, to be invisible - to walk and climb as if you were a shadow. I'm positive you'll sense that acting this way you'll cease to be a tourist and start being a part of the landscape. You will be more attentive and feel nature more intensely.



                                      P.S.: I'm a grumpy person.






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                                      Would you start playing the clarinet on a bus? It's also noisy, somehow. People also wouldn't expect complete silence. Would you be the one to guarantee there is no possibility of silence at all?



                                      Public places are just that: public. There are people and if you play music, everyone is forced to hear it. If you pee on the ground, everyone is forced to smell it. If you litter, everyone is forced to walk around garbage. From where I'm from, etiquette regarding outdoor activities is very simple: try to minimize what you subject other people to as much as possible. If I can pee in a far away place where the smell won't bother anyone, that's where I'll go; if I can carry my garbage with me, I will; if I can play an instrument being absolutely sure I'm not upsetting someone, then that's OK.



                                      The problem is: can you be sure? Do you know what's the mean distance your instrument reaches? People around you might enjoy your playing, but do people 500m from there feel OK about it too? How can you be sure? There are also animals around - do they love it? I'm positive most animals don't care about where I pee, but I'm also sure littering won't do them any good. Are you sure you're not disturbing?



                                      I think my position has become clear: I'm totally against any kind of outdoors musicality. I often climb big walls where I'm supposed to sleep three, four days on the wall, and some friends sometimes bring ukeleles. I hate it. I tolerate it because usually the other two guys enjoy the music and I'm in a smaller number, but I hate it. I hate to see people playing instruments or hearing loud music on trails. I think it's an absolute lack of respect for the others and for your surroundings. The safest way to be respectful is to be clean, to be silent, to be invisible - to walk and climb as if you were a shadow. I'm positive you'll sense that acting this way you'll cease to be a tourist and start being a part of the landscape. You will be more attentive and feel nature more intensely.



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