IPIP tunnel speed decreases if idle

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I've set up an IPIP tunnel on 2 deb9 hosts for public IP routing and it kinda works. I can reach both ends, but if I let it idle for a bit, the speed decreases. After a while I can't even reach it anymore. If I send data (e.g. ping) through the tunnel from the host, the IPs are routed to, it wakes up again. What could be causing this?



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I've tried GRE tunnels as well, but that just doesn't work as it should. It delivers 1.5mbit/s speeds on a gigabit link.










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  • MTU/Keepalive issues. and having the TCP control/negotiation algorithms being applied twice (outside/inside the tunnel). Those are known limitations, not specific to Linux

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 15:34












  • And what could I do about the second part? I've tried changing the MTU, but that didn't help (atleast with the values i tried). I am running a ping session as a keepalive, but that only keeps it alive, the speed still goes down.

    – Martin Magyarics
    Feb 24 at 20:09











  • They are known issues of doing IP in top of IP, or even SCP on top of SSH+IP....I have no workarounds for you that work over the long term. Maybe using IPsec will improve the situation.

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 20:46
















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I've set up an IPIP tunnel on 2 deb9 hosts for public IP routing and it kinda works. I can reach both ends, but if I let it idle for a bit, the speed decreases. After a while I can't even reach it anymore. If I send data (e.g. ping) through the tunnel from the host, the IPs are routed to, it wakes up again. What could be causing this?



OT:
I've tried GRE tunnels as well, but that just doesn't work as it should. It delivers 1.5mbit/s speeds on a gigabit link.










share|improve this question






















  • MTU/Keepalive issues. and having the TCP control/negotiation algorithms being applied twice (outside/inside the tunnel). Those are known limitations, not specific to Linux

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 15:34












  • And what could I do about the second part? I've tried changing the MTU, but that didn't help (atleast with the values i tried). I am running a ping session as a keepalive, but that only keeps it alive, the speed still goes down.

    – Martin Magyarics
    Feb 24 at 20:09











  • They are known issues of doing IP in top of IP, or even SCP on top of SSH+IP....I have no workarounds for you that work over the long term. Maybe using IPsec will improve the situation.

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 20:46














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I've set up an IPIP tunnel on 2 deb9 hosts for public IP routing and it kinda works. I can reach both ends, but if I let it idle for a bit, the speed decreases. After a while I can't even reach it anymore. If I send data (e.g. ping) through the tunnel from the host, the IPs are routed to, it wakes up again. What could be causing this?



OT:
I've tried GRE tunnels as well, but that just doesn't work as it should. It delivers 1.5mbit/s speeds on a gigabit link.










share|improve this question














I've set up an IPIP tunnel on 2 deb9 hosts for public IP routing and it kinda works. I can reach both ends, but if I let it idle for a bit, the speed decreases. After a while I can't even reach it anymore. If I send data (e.g. ping) through the tunnel from the host, the IPs are routed to, it wakes up again. What could be causing this?



OT:
I've tried GRE tunnels as well, but that just doesn't work as it should. It delivers 1.5mbit/s speeds on a gigabit link.







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  • MTU/Keepalive issues. and having the TCP control/negotiation algorithms being applied twice (outside/inside the tunnel). Those are known limitations, not specific to Linux

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 15:34












  • And what could I do about the second part? I've tried changing the MTU, but that didn't help (atleast with the values i tried). I am running a ping session as a keepalive, but that only keeps it alive, the speed still goes down.

    – Martin Magyarics
    Feb 24 at 20:09











  • They are known issues of doing IP in top of IP, or even SCP on top of SSH+IP....I have no workarounds for you that work over the long term. Maybe using IPsec will improve the situation.

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 20:46


















  • MTU/Keepalive issues. and having the TCP control/negotiation algorithms being applied twice (outside/inside the tunnel). Those are known limitations, not specific to Linux

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 15:34












  • And what could I do about the second part? I've tried changing the MTU, but that didn't help (atleast with the values i tried). I am running a ping session as a keepalive, but that only keeps it alive, the speed still goes down.

    – Martin Magyarics
    Feb 24 at 20:09











  • They are known issues of doing IP in top of IP, or even SCP on top of SSH+IP....I have no workarounds for you that work over the long term. Maybe using IPsec will improve the situation.

    – Rui F Ribeiro
    Feb 24 at 20:46

















MTU/Keepalive issues. and having the TCP control/negotiation algorithms being applied twice (outside/inside the tunnel). Those are known limitations, not specific to Linux

– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 24 at 15:34






MTU/Keepalive issues. and having the TCP control/negotiation algorithms being applied twice (outside/inside the tunnel). Those are known limitations, not specific to Linux

– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 24 at 15:34














And what could I do about the second part? I've tried changing the MTU, but that didn't help (atleast with the values i tried). I am running a ping session as a keepalive, but that only keeps it alive, the speed still goes down.

– Martin Magyarics
Feb 24 at 20:09





And what could I do about the second part? I've tried changing the MTU, but that didn't help (atleast with the values i tried). I am running a ping session as a keepalive, but that only keeps it alive, the speed still goes down.

– Martin Magyarics
Feb 24 at 20:09













They are known issues of doing IP in top of IP, or even SCP on top of SSH+IP....I have no workarounds for you that work over the long term. Maybe using IPsec will improve the situation.

– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 24 at 20:46






They are known issues of doing IP in top of IP, or even SCP on top of SSH+IP....I have no workarounds for you that work over the long term. Maybe using IPsec will improve the situation.

– Rui F Ribeiro
Feb 24 at 20:46











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