How do I know where to put stitching vias?

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I'm working on a PCB that allows me to attach a TSSOP IO expander to a breadboard more easily for experimenting. I asked a question regarding the configuration of decoupling capacitors for an IC with 2 supply pins.



One of the recommendations was to add ground pours to the top and bottom layers of the PCB to create low impedance ground connections for the decoupling capacitors and to tie the top and bottom layers with several stitching vias.



How do I know how many stitching vias to place and how do I know where to place them?



Here is what the board looks like so far:
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Because I'm new to electrical engineering (I'm barely at hobbyist level), it really helps me to see solutions visually. For folks finding this in the future, here's what my latest state is:



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    I'm working on a PCB that allows me to attach a TSSOP IO expander to a breadboard more easily for experimenting. I asked a question regarding the configuration of decoupling capacitors for an IC with 2 supply pins.



    One of the recommendations was to add ground pours to the top and bottom layers of the PCB to create low impedance ground connections for the decoupling capacitors and to tie the top and bottom layers with several stitching vias.



    How do I know how many stitching vias to place and how do I know where to place them?



    Here is what the board looks like so far:
    enter image description here




    Edit:



    Because I'm new to electrical engineering (I'm barely at hobbyist level), it really helps me to see solutions visually. For folks finding this in the future, here's what my latest state is:



    enter image description here










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      I'm working on a PCB that allows me to attach a TSSOP IO expander to a breadboard more easily for experimenting. I asked a question regarding the configuration of decoupling capacitors for an IC with 2 supply pins.



      One of the recommendations was to add ground pours to the top and bottom layers of the PCB to create low impedance ground connections for the decoupling capacitors and to tie the top and bottom layers with several stitching vias.



      How do I know how many stitching vias to place and how do I know where to place them?



      Here is what the board looks like so far:
      enter image description here




      Edit:



      Because I'm new to electrical engineering (I'm barely at hobbyist level), it really helps me to see solutions visually. For folks finding this in the future, here's what my latest state is:



      enter image description here










      share|improve this question











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      I'm working on a PCB that allows me to attach a TSSOP IO expander to a breadboard more easily for experimenting. I asked a question regarding the configuration of decoupling capacitors for an IC with 2 supply pins.



      One of the recommendations was to add ground pours to the top and bottom layers of the PCB to create low impedance ground connections for the decoupling capacitors and to tie the top and bottom layers with several stitching vias.



      How do I know how many stitching vias to place and how do I know where to place them?



      Here is what the board looks like so far:
      enter image description here




      Edit:



      Because I'm new to electrical engineering (I'm barely at hobbyist level), it really helps me to see solutions visually. For folks finding this in the future, here's what my latest state is:



      enter image description here







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          If you flip C2 and C3 around this could be a 1-layer board. Flipping them, would also reduce parasitic inductances due to the required vias.



          But, to answer your question, for your (low-frequency) application, stitching vias serve just one purpose, to reduce the impedance for any current traveling on the planes. That directly implies that areas of the plane that have little or no current, due to being far from the current paths, don’t require any vias.



          In your case you only have 4 pads and a pin that conduct current from the plane. You just require vias near those pads and perhaps the pin (vias are much less conductive than the pin itself). Perhaps 4 vias on the capacitors, and 2 near the IC Gnd.



          Any additional vias would mostly be cosmetic, it would be hard to tease apart the effects due to reduction in impedance due to the vias from the increase in impedance due to the added holes in the planes.



          If this was a high-frequency a application (e.g., >500MHz) vias would be required near the PCB edges, to avoid unintended emissions and you would need to take into account the impedances to the plane underneath signal lines.






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            If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
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            I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
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            @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
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            I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
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            I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
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          Put 4 at each end, and a couple under the body of the chip. I don't know that there is an exact science behind it. I try to get Gnd vias near the Gnd end of the caps too. You could move C3 & C4 up a little to get Gnd vias between them and C2 and C1.






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            Just make your top gnd and the bottom vss; this way, you don't need any Vias.



            Also, why those weird trace directions at the outer traces of the chip (pin 1 and 2 on each header)?



            Also, you don't need a via in j1_12 (aka gnd), as pads go through the board and manufactured boards (boards you don't make yourself) have pads connected through the hole.






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              Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
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              An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
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              The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
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            If you flip C2 and C3 around this could be a 1-layer board. Flipping them, would also reduce parasitic inductances due to the required vias.



            But, to answer your question, for your (low-frequency) application, stitching vias serve just one purpose, to reduce the impedance for any current traveling on the planes. That directly implies that areas of the plane that have little or no current, due to being far from the current paths, don’t require any vias.



            In your case you only have 4 pads and a pin that conduct current from the plane. You just require vias near those pads and perhaps the pin (vias are much less conductive than the pin itself). Perhaps 4 vias on the capacitors, and 2 near the IC Gnd.



            Any additional vias would mostly be cosmetic, it would be hard to tease apart the effects due to reduction in impedance due to the vias from the increase in impedance due to the added holes in the planes.



            If this was a high-frequency a application (e.g., >500MHz) vias would be required near the PCB edges, to avoid unintended emissions and you would need to take into account the impedances to the plane underneath signal lines.






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              If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
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              I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
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              Jan 5 at 23:02






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              @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
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              – Edgar Brown
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              I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
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              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 2:29










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              I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
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              – D. Patrick
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            If you flip C2 and C3 around this could be a 1-layer board. Flipping them, would also reduce parasitic inductances due to the required vias.



            But, to answer your question, for your (low-frequency) application, stitching vias serve just one purpose, to reduce the impedance for any current traveling on the planes. That directly implies that areas of the plane that have little or no current, due to being far from the current paths, don’t require any vias.



            In your case you only have 4 pads and a pin that conduct current from the plane. You just require vias near those pads and perhaps the pin (vias are much less conductive than the pin itself). Perhaps 4 vias on the capacitors, and 2 near the IC Gnd.



            Any additional vias would mostly be cosmetic, it would be hard to tease apart the effects due to reduction in impedance due to the vias from the increase in impedance due to the added holes in the planes.



            If this was a high-frequency a application (e.g., >500MHz) vias would be required near the PCB edges, to avoid unintended emissions and you would need to take into account the impedances to the plane underneath signal lines.






            share|improve this answer











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              If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 5 at 22:54










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              I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
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              – D. Patrick
              Jan 5 at 23:02






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              @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
              $endgroup$
              – Edgar Brown
              Jan 6 at 0:15










            • $begingroup$
              I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 2:29










            • $begingroup$
              I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 22:36













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            $begingroup$

            If you flip C2 and C3 around this could be a 1-layer board. Flipping them, would also reduce parasitic inductances due to the required vias.



            But, to answer your question, for your (low-frequency) application, stitching vias serve just one purpose, to reduce the impedance for any current traveling on the planes. That directly implies that areas of the plane that have little or no current, due to being far from the current paths, don’t require any vias.



            In your case you only have 4 pads and a pin that conduct current from the plane. You just require vias near those pads and perhaps the pin (vias are much less conductive than the pin itself). Perhaps 4 vias on the capacitors, and 2 near the IC Gnd.



            Any additional vias would mostly be cosmetic, it would be hard to tease apart the effects due to reduction in impedance due to the vias from the increase in impedance due to the added holes in the planes.



            If this was a high-frequency a application (e.g., >500MHz) vias would be required near the PCB edges, to avoid unintended emissions and you would need to take into account the impedances to the plane underneath signal lines.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            If you flip C2 and C3 around this could be a 1-layer board. Flipping them, would also reduce parasitic inductances due to the required vias.



            But, to answer your question, for your (low-frequency) application, stitching vias serve just one purpose, to reduce the impedance for any current traveling on the planes. That directly implies that areas of the plane that have little or no current, due to being far from the current paths, don’t require any vias.



            In your case you only have 4 pads and a pin that conduct current from the plane. You just require vias near those pads and perhaps the pin (vias are much less conductive than the pin itself). Perhaps 4 vias on the capacitors, and 2 near the IC Gnd.



            Any additional vias would mostly be cosmetic, it would be hard to tease apart the effects due to reduction in impedance due to the vias from the increase in impedance due to the added holes in the planes.



            If this was a high-frequency a application (e.g., >500MHz) vias would be required near the PCB edges, to avoid unintended emissions and you would need to take into account the impedances to the plane underneath signal lines.







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              If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 5 at 22:54










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              I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
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              – D. Patrick
              Jan 5 at 23:02






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              @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
              $endgroup$
              – Edgar Brown
              Jan 6 at 0:15










            • $begingroup$
              I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 2:29










            • $begingroup$
              I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 22:36
















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              If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 5 at 22:54










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              I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 5 at 23:02






            • 1




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              @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
              $endgroup$
              – Edgar Brown
              Jan 6 at 0:15










            • $begingroup$
              I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 2:29










            • $begingroup$
              I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
              $endgroup$
              – D. Patrick
              Jan 6 at 22:36















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            If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
            $endgroup$
            – D. Patrick
            Jan 5 at 22:54




            $begingroup$
            If I flip the caps, the Vss trace will still be short enough? And the ground pour on top will be low enough inductance that I don’t need the pour on bottom at all?
            $endgroup$
            – D. Patrick
            Jan 5 at 22:54












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            I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
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            – D. Patrick
            Jan 5 at 23:02




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            I meant Vdd trace won’t be too long.
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            – D. Patrick
            Jan 5 at 23:02




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            @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
            $endgroup$
            – Edgar Brown
            Jan 6 at 0:15




            $begingroup$
            @D.Patrick If you flip C2 and C3 VddI2C could actually become shorter. If you are doing a double-layer board (the difference in price might be negligible) put the plane anyway. It does not hurt anything and it will provide better shielding, a negligible effect given the application, but better anyway.
            $endgroup$
            – Edgar Brown
            Jan 6 at 0:15












            $begingroup$
            I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
            $endgroup$
            – D. Patrick
            Jan 6 at 2:29




            $begingroup$
            I added an image to the end of my question that shows my attempt to implement your suggestions. Did I more or less capture what you had in mind? (I also moved a few things around because I wanted to label a some of the pins, but I don't think I changed the circuit substantially). Thanks again for your help!!
            $endgroup$
            – D. Patrick
            Jan 6 at 2:29












            $begingroup$
            I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
            $endgroup$
            – D. Patrick
            Jan 6 at 22:36




            $begingroup$
            I hate to be a pest; I very much appreciate your help. I plan to accept your answer, but first I’d like to make sure the image I added to my question accurately represents your recommendation. When you have a second, would you mind terribly taking a quick look? I just want to make sure the question is helpful to other folks new to this like me who might understand more easily with a graphic representation. Thank you again!!
            $endgroup$
            – D. Patrick
            Jan 6 at 22:36













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            Put 4 at each end, and a couple under the body of the chip. I don't know that there is an exact science behind it. I try to get Gnd vias near the Gnd end of the caps too. You could move C3 & C4 up a little to get Gnd vias between them and C2 and C1.






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              Put 4 at each end, and a couple under the body of the chip. I don't know that there is an exact science behind it. I try to get Gnd vias near the Gnd end of the caps too. You could move C3 & C4 up a little to get Gnd vias between them and C2 and C1.






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                Put 4 at each end, and a couple under the body of the chip. I don't know that there is an exact science behind it. I try to get Gnd vias near the Gnd end of the caps too. You could move C3 & C4 up a little to get Gnd vias between them and C2 and C1.






                share|improve this answer











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                Put 4 at each end, and a couple under the body of the chip. I don't know that there is an exact science behind it. I try to get Gnd vias near the Gnd end of the caps too. You could move C3 & C4 up a little to get Gnd vias between them and C2 and C1.







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                    Just make your top gnd and the bottom vss; this way, you don't need any Vias.



                    Also, why those weird trace directions at the outer traces of the chip (pin 1 and 2 on each header)?



                    Also, you don't need a via in j1_12 (aka gnd), as pads go through the board and manufactured boards (boards you don't make yourself) have pads connected through the hole.






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                      Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
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                      Jan 6 at 18:29






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                      An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
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                      – Anindo Ghosh
                      Jan 6 at 20:59










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                      The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
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                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 22:28















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                    Just make your top gnd and the bottom vss; this way, you don't need any Vias.



                    Also, why those weird trace directions at the outer traces of the chip (pin 1 and 2 on each header)?



                    Also, you don't need a via in j1_12 (aka gnd), as pads go through the board and manufactured boards (boards you don't make yourself) have pads connected through the hole.






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                    • $begingroup$
                      Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
                      $endgroup$
                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 18:29






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                      An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
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                      – Anindo Ghosh
                      Jan 6 at 20:59










                    • $begingroup$
                      The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
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                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 22:28













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                    Just make your top gnd and the bottom vss; this way, you don't need any Vias.



                    Also, why those weird trace directions at the outer traces of the chip (pin 1 and 2 on each header)?



                    Also, you don't need a via in j1_12 (aka gnd), as pads go through the board and manufactured boards (boards you don't make yourself) have pads connected through the hole.






                    share|improve this answer











                    $endgroup$



                    Just make your top gnd and the bottom vss; this way, you don't need any Vias.



                    Also, why those weird trace directions at the outer traces of the chip (pin 1 and 2 on each header)?



                    Also, you don't need a via in j1_12 (aka gnd), as pads go through the board and manufactured boards (boards you don't make yourself) have pads connected through the hole.







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                    • $begingroup$
                      Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
                      $endgroup$
                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 18:29






                    • 3




                      $begingroup$
                      An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Anindo Ghosh
                      Jan 6 at 20:59










                    • $begingroup$
                      The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
                      $endgroup$
                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 22:28
















                    • $begingroup$
                      Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
                      $endgroup$
                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 18:29






                    • 3




                      $begingroup$
                      An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Anindo Ghosh
                      Jan 6 at 20:59










                    • $begingroup$
                      The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
                      $endgroup$
                      – D. Patrick
                      Jan 6 at 22:28















                    $begingroup$
                    Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
                    $endgroup$
                    – D. Patrick
                    Jan 6 at 18:29




                    $begingroup$
                    Thanks for your answer!! What’s weird? I know so little about PCB design that I can’t tell what’s weird and what’s not. :)
                    $endgroup$
                    – D. Patrick
                    Jan 6 at 18:29




                    3




                    3




                    $begingroup$
                    An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Anindo Ghosh
                    Jan 6 at 20:59




                    $begingroup$
                    An answer is not the place to ask the OP for clarifications ("why those ... trace directions"). Perhaps better to obtain clarifications through comments on the question itself, then post an answer when you have a clear answer to provide.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Anindo Ghosh
                    Jan 6 at 20:59












                    $begingroup$
                    The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
                    $endgroup$
                    – D. Patrick
                    Jan 6 at 22:28




                    $begingroup$
                    The funny traces in the bottom right were an effort to keep the traces from having 90 degree angles and trapping acid during production (or something like that). In the top left, it's because I can't trace pin 1 to j1 between the caps because of the ground pour and I was trying to avoid adding a trace to the bottom of the board so I kind of had to sneak it between the jumpers. Does that make sense?
                    $endgroup$
                    – D. Patrick
                    Jan 6 at 22:28

















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