compare memory performance of two machines (low buffers vs high cached)

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I'm trying to compare the performance of two machines that I have. I have in both of the machines a database that was installed with the same settings. Both of the machines have the same amount of cpu(20Cores)/memory(65GB). Each machine is a vm in a dedicated esx with local disks.



I'm running the same operation in both of the machines but the results that I see in machine2 are far better then machine1 even though the hardware is the same. I was trying to find the root cause and I started from investigating the memory. I watched on the output of free -m on both of the machines and I saw that during the entire operation the buffers/shared/cached have very different values :



machine 1(avg) used - 42GB, buffers - 450MB, shared - 1.9GB, cached - 39GB



machine 2 (avg) used-58GB, buffers - 2.8GB, shared - 4GB, cached - 29GB,



From what I understood cached means that data that is recently read from disk will be saved in cache to save I/O which means that in machine1 reads should be faster because cached col is bigger(In contrary to my results).



Any idea what can explain the results ? What else can I investigate ?










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    I'm trying to compare the performance of two machines that I have. I have in both of the machines a database that was installed with the same settings. Both of the machines have the same amount of cpu(20Cores)/memory(65GB). Each machine is a vm in a dedicated esx with local disks.



    I'm running the same operation in both of the machines but the results that I see in machine2 are far better then machine1 even though the hardware is the same. I was trying to find the root cause and I started from investigating the memory. I watched on the output of free -m on both of the machines and I saw that during the entire operation the buffers/shared/cached have very different values :



    machine 1(avg) used - 42GB, buffers - 450MB, shared - 1.9GB, cached - 39GB



    machine 2 (avg) used-58GB, buffers - 2.8GB, shared - 4GB, cached - 29GB,



    From what I understood cached means that data that is recently read from disk will be saved in cache to save I/O which means that in machine1 reads should be faster because cached col is bigger(In contrary to my results).



    Any idea what can explain the results ? What else can I investigate ?










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      I'm trying to compare the performance of two machines that I have. I have in both of the machines a database that was installed with the same settings. Both of the machines have the same amount of cpu(20Cores)/memory(65GB). Each machine is a vm in a dedicated esx with local disks.



      I'm running the same operation in both of the machines but the results that I see in machine2 are far better then machine1 even though the hardware is the same. I was trying to find the root cause and I started from investigating the memory. I watched on the output of free -m on both of the machines and I saw that during the entire operation the buffers/shared/cached have very different values :



      machine 1(avg) used - 42GB, buffers - 450MB, shared - 1.9GB, cached - 39GB



      machine 2 (avg) used-58GB, buffers - 2.8GB, shared - 4GB, cached - 29GB,



      From what I understood cached means that data that is recently read from disk will be saved in cache to save I/O which means that in machine1 reads should be faster because cached col is bigger(In contrary to my results).



      Any idea what can explain the results ? What else can I investigate ?










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      I'm trying to compare the performance of two machines that I have. I have in both of the machines a database that was installed with the same settings. Both of the machines have the same amount of cpu(20Cores)/memory(65GB). Each machine is a vm in a dedicated esx with local disks.



      I'm running the same operation in both of the machines but the results that I see in machine2 are far better then machine1 even though the hardware is the same. I was trying to find the root cause and I started from investigating the memory. I watched on the output of free -m on both of the machines and I saw that during the entire operation the buffers/shared/cached have very different values :



      machine 1(avg) used - 42GB, buffers - 450MB, shared - 1.9GB, cached - 39GB



      machine 2 (avg) used-58GB, buffers - 2.8GB, shared - 4GB, cached - 29GB,



      From what I understood cached means that data that is recently read from disk will be saved in cache to save I/O which means that in machine1 reads should be faster because cached col is bigger(In contrary to my results).



      Any idea what can explain the results ? What else can I investigate ?







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          You can't compare the machines so easily. You need to address several points:



          1. The same disks (in sense of speed, I/O ops, cache, disk partitioning) on host systems and VMs. With the same configurations, LVM, etc.

          2. Same software - you should run the same version of host OS, same
            patches, same settings

          3. Same VMs - this is most important in your case because every virtual
            machine will have a unique load.

          4. Moreover same VM can show different kind of load depending on time of
            day, operations running on this machine and so on





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          • I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 7:57










          • @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
            – Romeo Ninov
            Dec 17 at 8:03










          • all the data is from the Vms
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 8:41










          • @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
            – Romeo Ninov
            Dec 17 at 8:46










          • nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 9:11


















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          2.8GB of buffers is quite a lot. This almost certainly means that something does raw I/O on the block devices or bypasses the filesystem cache. This in turn means that either the drivers or whatever you're running on them is not the exact same.



          • Compare the version of the software that you are running and its configuration

          • Compare the kernel versions

          • Compare the hardware emulation of the VMs on the ESX part

          • May be worth comparing the actual hardware they are running on

          • May be worth comparing the kernels on the hosts and the ESX version





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            You can't compare the machines so easily. You need to address several points:



            1. The same disks (in sense of speed, I/O ops, cache, disk partitioning) on host systems and VMs. With the same configurations, LVM, etc.

            2. Same software - you should run the same version of host OS, same
              patches, same settings

            3. Same VMs - this is most important in your case because every virtual
              machine will have a unique load.

            4. Moreover same VM can show different kind of load depending on time of
              day, operations running on this machine and so on





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            • I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 7:57










            • @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:03










            • all the data is from the Vms
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 8:41










            • @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:46










            • nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 9:11















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            You can't compare the machines so easily. You need to address several points:



            1. The same disks (in sense of speed, I/O ops, cache, disk partitioning) on host systems and VMs. With the same configurations, LVM, etc.

            2. Same software - you should run the same version of host OS, same
              patches, same settings

            3. Same VMs - this is most important in your case because every virtual
              machine will have a unique load.

            4. Moreover same VM can show different kind of load depending on time of
              day, operations running on this machine and so on





            share|improve this answer






















            • I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 7:57










            • @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:03










            • all the data is from the Vms
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 8:41










            • @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:46










            • nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 9:11













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            You can't compare the machines so easily. You need to address several points:



            1. The same disks (in sense of speed, I/O ops, cache, disk partitioning) on host systems and VMs. With the same configurations, LVM, etc.

            2. Same software - you should run the same version of host OS, same
              patches, same settings

            3. Same VMs - this is most important in your case because every virtual
              machine will have a unique load.

            4. Moreover same VM can show different kind of load depending on time of
              day, operations running on this machine and so on





            share|improve this answer














            You can't compare the machines so easily. You need to address several points:



            1. The same disks (in sense of speed, I/O ops, cache, disk partitioning) on host systems and VMs. With the same configurations, LVM, etc.

            2. Same software - you should run the same version of host OS, same
              patches, same settings

            3. Same VMs - this is most important in your case because every virtual
              machine will have a unique load.

            4. Moreover same VM can show different kind of load depending on time of
              day, operations running on this machine and so on






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            • I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 7:57










            • @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:03










            • all the data is from the Vms
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 8:41










            • @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:46










            • nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 9:11
















            • I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 7:57










            • @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:03










            • all the data is from the Vms
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 8:41










            • @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
              – Romeo Ninov
              Dec 17 at 8:46










            • nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
              – JeyJ
              Dec 17 at 9:11















            I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 7:57




            I didnt mention it but both of the vms were created dedicated for my test so I'm sure that only my operations are running there. Both of the vms have the same os version.
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 7:57












            @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
            – Romeo Ninov
            Dec 17 at 8:03




            @JeyJ, the data for cache, buffers, etc is from VMs or from host machines?
            – Romeo Ninov
            Dec 17 at 8:03












            all the data is from the Vms
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 8:41




            all the data is from the Vms
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 8:41












            @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
            – Romeo Ninov
            Dec 17 at 8:46




            @JeyJ, do you have any other VMs on those hosts?
            – Romeo Ninov
            Dec 17 at 8:46












            nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 9:11




            nope, each vm is alone in the esx.
            – JeyJ
            Dec 17 at 9:11













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            2.8GB of buffers is quite a lot. This almost certainly means that something does raw I/O on the block devices or bypasses the filesystem cache. This in turn means that either the drivers or whatever you're running on them is not the exact same.



            • Compare the version of the software that you are running and its configuration

            • Compare the kernel versions

            • Compare the hardware emulation of the VMs on the ESX part

            • May be worth comparing the actual hardware they are running on

            • May be worth comparing the kernels on the hosts and the ESX version





            share|improve this answer

























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              2.8GB of buffers is quite a lot. This almost certainly means that something does raw I/O on the block devices or bypasses the filesystem cache. This in turn means that either the drivers or whatever you're running on them is not the exact same.



              • Compare the version of the software that you are running and its configuration

              • Compare the kernel versions

              • Compare the hardware emulation of the VMs on the ESX part

              • May be worth comparing the actual hardware they are running on

              • May be worth comparing the kernels on the hosts and the ESX version





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                2.8GB of buffers is quite a lot. This almost certainly means that something does raw I/O on the block devices or bypasses the filesystem cache. This in turn means that either the drivers or whatever you're running on them is not the exact same.



                • Compare the version of the software that you are running and its configuration

                • Compare the kernel versions

                • Compare the hardware emulation of the VMs on the ESX part

                • May be worth comparing the actual hardware they are running on

                • May be worth comparing the kernels on the hosts and the ESX version





                share|improve this answer












                2.8GB of buffers is quite a lot. This almost certainly means that something does raw I/O on the block devices or bypasses the filesystem cache. This in turn means that either the drivers or whatever you're running on them is not the exact same.



                • Compare the version of the software that you are running and its configuration

                • Compare the kernel versions

                • Compare the hardware emulation of the VMs on the ESX part

                • May be worth comparing the actual hardware they are running on

                • May be worth comparing the kernels on the hosts and the ESX version






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